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  • @Ibrahim YM

    “I am not willing to sacrifice my being to a god that can’t keep it straight in a book”

    “If my god cannot keep it straight in his book, then that god is in doubt as well”

    I think I am also in your boat. “Why Allah, who is infallible, with all His power allowed the Books of Moosa, Dawood and Isa to be corrupted”? After all it was Allah who inspired these prophets to produce these books. If these books are corrupted how Jews and Christians who followed these ‘corrupted’ holy books and were able to produce more than 800 Nobel Prize winners out of 830 or so.? How they were able to invent electricity, nursing industry (Florence Nightingale) antibiotics, CT/MRI scan and so on and not to mention all the electronic items we use today? How by believing in corrupted books, 85% of good works of this world are being done by these people (millions of NGOs and 700,000 nuns), who obviously turned Allah’s world a better place to live in?

     

    “Quran is the direct speech of Allah to humankind”

    By saying that Quran is the verbatim or direct speech of Allah, or it is uncreated and its Xerox copy is in heaven, there is a real danger in such a claim. Forget that Quran is not in chronological order or even grouped together by related subject, if, repeat, if there is a single error in the Quran, then the whole Quran can be a fake one, for Allah cannot make a single error. Please don’t ask me to point out the glaring errors in the Quran. I am not a scholar.

     

    “The Ayats urge us to fight those who have fought us ….those who have driven us out”

    Have you forgotten the history? Did the Syrians, Persians, Egyptians, North Africans, Spanish and Subsequently Indians drive the Muslims out? It was the other way around. It was the Islamic forces who had driven them out. Every action has a reaction.  Consequently, the West came out of the Dark Ages and the 800 years of siege mentality, and colonised hundreds of countries as a counter measure of Islamic conquests.

    Anyhow I enjoyed the great article by Sultan and your comment. I enjoy the difference of opinions.

    When we realize the depth of Allah’s mercy, we too can readily show mercy to His creatures; mercy to gays, mercy to blasphemers, mercy to prostitutes, mercy to apostates, mercy to our fellow pilgrims Atheists, Sunnis, Shias, Sufis, Hindus, etc..

    We have travelled a long way. Many countries have stopped capital punishments, giving the culprits a chance to regret their sins. Allah says “Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? Rather am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?”

    We have change the wordings. We don’t say “under developed countries” but “developing countries” We don’t say “mentally retarded person” but “intellectually disabled person” so as not to hurt anyone feelings.

    Regards,

     

    “We cannot claim to love Allah and pray five times while we abuse and harm His creatures”

    By Royalj - 3/11/2017 10:08:47 PM



  • I am God.
    Dear muslims, who asked you to call me by name Allah?
    I am beyond your senses and imagination and yet you say I spoke to moses and many so called prophets and angels?
    Who said I created jannah, angels, jinn, adam and satan? it is your imagination!!
    I am beyond space and time and you say I am in jannah or I am sitting in a throne over jannah? You wrote in quran 67:16 to 67:17.
    Thus you define me in your own way but if non muslims calls me by different names, imagine forms of me and try to worship me in their ways you attack them!! who gave you the right to ridicule other religions and harm others?
    Lastly I don't condemn anyone for eternal damnation for their finite crimes they do. Do not threaten others with hell fire. By God - 2/28/2017 3:14:05 AM



  • For any moral person “ It is more about the right thing to do than the expedient thing to do”  It is so with any nation state.

    It is expedient for the US to handover Muhammad Fethullah Gulen to Turkey in order to have good relationship with Turkey (both members of NATO). But it is not the right thing to do. Hope US will not hand over Gulen, though Erdogan has become a fast friend with Putin..

    It is expedient for the US to leave the Kurdish people on the lurch and to join hands with Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria. But it is not the right thing to do. Unlike Iraqi soldiers who lost billion dollars’ worth of US arms and ammunition to ISIS, Kurdish forces withstood the onslaught of ISIS and cleared swaths of lands held by the ISIS. Though the four Muslim countries couldn’t see the plight of 35 million fellow Kurdish Muslims, US would not let them down and do the right thing.

    US is said to be the custodian of democracies yet it supported Egyptian dictatorship and pays every year billions to Egypt and Israel in order to avoid 4th Arab Israeli war.. It is the moral courage to do the right thing. The fall of democratic government of Mohammad Morsi is unfortunate. Barack Obama, a sympathiser of Muslim Brotherhood, supported Morsi till the last moment, but the Middle East tradition of dictatorship overcame. Many Muslims still believe that world caliphate can be achieved only through dictatorships and not through democracies.

    The main reason for islamophobia is not the gruesome murders, terror attacks or suicide bombings, but the inability of Ulema or Islamic theology to do the right thing. For instance, in a Kafir country like India, Muslims are unable get rid of triple talaq, Halala and polygamy. How can they do it in a Muslim majority country? Even in the so called Moderate Muslim Indonesia, people started crying ‘Muslims should vote for a Muslim leader’

    Do the Muslims have the moral courage to implement the core values?

    Only a God of moral perfection is God.

    By Royalj - 2/11/2017 7:33:28 PM



  • Good comment by Ibrahim Sb. The ubiquitous disclaimer at the end "What I say here is from myself with my understanding of the Speech of Allah. If I misspeak here it is only because of my error and not that of Allah." is unnecessary. Instead, I would much prefer if it ends with a positive statement such as:

    " I witness, that the Quran is a Book that makes things clear, is without crookedness and without any discrepancy. (The witnessing attests that the author has read and understood the Quran to an extent where there isn't a single verse that is unclear to him and there is no verse as understood by him that contradicts the meaning of any another verse). What I have said is based on my holistic understanding of the Quran without treating any verse as abrogated and without contradicting the clear meaning of any verse. To the best of my knowledge and belief, what I have said is the true meaning of the verses discussed"

    The problem is that there are too many people who merely interpret and there are none who try to get the true meaning. Does the Quran say that humans cannot understand and they can merely interpret? On the contrary it says that it is a Book that makes everything clear, is consistent with itself and without discrepancy. If it makes everything clear and is consistent with itself and without discrepancy, what is the difficulty in understanding the correct meaning? We falsify the Quran with our false modesty and tentativeness which often hides shoddy scholarship. If we have doubts about our understanding, then we should ask questions and not provide answers. I would rather hear the person owning up responsibility for what he has said and giving assurance that he has said what he has said after carrying out due diligence.

    The same holds good for the misuse of "Inshallah". Unless there is another word which means "unless God prevents me from  doing what I am promising to do", we should stop using it. It has come to mean nothing at all and quite often, it is used to avoid saying an honest no.

    In the Quran, the Prophet (pbuh) is reproached for presuming that God would send the revelations to answer the questions asked by Jewish scholars by saying he would provide the answer tomorrow. In this case, the Prophet was taking God for granted on a matter that only God could reveal.

    However, when we make a promise to do something, we are to be excused only if prevented from doing so by an act of God. A Force Majeure cause is an excuse even under the law and need not be stated in ordinary conversations.

    People use Inshallah to pass on the blame to Allah for not doing what they are promising to do. However, from the tone and body language, people do correctly understand when Inshallah actually means tentativeness or no intention at all and when it means an honest yes but it is best avoided unless one actually means yes and foresees no difficulty.

    By Naseer Ahmed - 12/20/2016 1:27:36 AM



  • Brother;

     “For instance, jihadists are able to misuse the intolerant, xenophobic, war-time verses of the holy Quran, as Muslims believe that all verses, regardless of the context, are of universal applicability”

    This is the paragraph that most caught my attention in your article and caused my need to respond to you! What you said here is best described by the American colloquialism, “Throwing the Baby out with the bath water.”

    Remember that the Ayats you are referring to come from the Qur’an which is, if you are Muslim, the direct speech of Allah to humankind. As Muslims we see Allah(swt) as omnipotent, all seeing and all wise. In short Allah is infallible, thus his speech must be also be infallible.  To describe the speech of Allah as intolerant and xenophobic is to become like Al-Ghazali and others you describe that you refer to below.

    The Ayats you are describing are clear and to the point. They urge us to fight those who have fought us, to drive them out of the homes they have driven us out of; but if they offer us peace then leave them alone.  I do not see the intolerance or xenophobia you proscribe to these Ayats.  The Qur’an is the furqan, the basis of all justification. What I think you are missing here is the reality that the intolerance and xenophobia you mention is the result of men mixing the words of men with the words of Allah that causes Muslims to act out in ways that are unjustifiable.  What has happened, in my opinion, is that we, as Muslims, have done what the Yahudi and Nazara have done, we have displaced the Word of Allah with the words of men.  You, yourself, will acknowledge this fact below!

     “Indeed, the Islamic theology of consensus, taught in all madrasas, says that Quran is uncreated, meaning that it is just an aspect of God; and so, divine like God Himself “

    One of the most tragic and absolutely insane episodes among Muslims was the argument over whether the Qur’an was revealed or created.  What nonsense to spill blood over! The Qur’an was delivered to us through the Messenger and is the direct speech of Allah. In this Qur’an, in Surat Al Maida, Allah warns us not to question the matters of religion too deeply or we will run into the same complications and craziness the Yahudi did. Guess what we did, we created a body of works and scholarship that surpasses anything the Children of Isra’il did and it is destroying us!

     “This is completely irrational. Suppose Meccan elite had not responded to Islam’s message of equality with violence and persecution, leading to Prophet Mohammad fleeing to Madina. There would have been no battles in Prophet’s lifetime and no war-time verses would have been required. How can these verses then acquire universal applicability and eternal value? “

    Because we, as humankind, are universally the same people that we were then. Just as brutal, just as murderous and just as unjust as our ancestors. Nothing has changed except our technology, which by the way, has enabled us to murder, pillage and destroy our neighbors much more efficiently than before.  And while the Western Civilizations of Europe and America have in the last 150 years murdered more of humankind than in all previous history (some 10k years) we as Muslims appear to have gladly joined in with the orgy of mayhem and murder more so among ourselves than against those outside our ranks.    

     “Not only that. There is also a near-consensus in Islamic theology around the so-called Doctrine of Abrogation whereby all peaceful, pluralistic Meccan verses, at least 124, are considered abrogated by the later confrontational Medinan verses. This is most damaging for Islam and useful for jihadism”

    Now you are finally approaching rationality!! In the first paragraph that I quoted from you, you where providing the ammunition from which these scholars came up with this theory of Abrogation. Your classifying verses from the Qur’an as intolerant and xenophobic provide the intellectual fuel for fostering this “Doctrine of Abrogation” fire of ignorance. Think about it, the only way that abrogation could work is to establish the fallibility of Allah, thus the need to abrogate and correct our God. Are you getting this?  If Allah is fallible, then the whole book comes into question as does our religion.  I do not know about you, but I am not willing to sacrifice my being to a god that can’t keep it straight in a book that is supposed to be our “guidance without doubt”.  Do you realize what is wrong here? Allah said he perfected our religion in this book. If my god cannot keep it straight in his book, then that god is in doubt as well.  So as a Muslim who believes in Allah and his Messenger I cannot even dare to approach such a dichotomy of faith. Allah is infallible and so is his speech, the Qur’an.  If you disagree with that then just stop reading here because we no longer have a basis for discussion.  And may Allah give all of us guidance.

     “How do Islamic theologians reconcile the uncreatedness of Quran, its total, unquestionable divinity, with the Doctrine of Abrogation is beyond a rational person’s understanding. This is a belief with hardly any basis in Quran. It evolved hundreds of years after the demise of the Prophet”

    Yes, you are shining the light brother, Allahu Akbar!  This “Doctrine of Abrogation” is the work of those who would displace the words of Allah with their own words.

     “The same is true of the divinity and universal applicability attached to Hadith, the so-called sayings of the Prophet, and Sharia laws. Narrations of Hadith were recorded decades and centuries after the Prophet passed away. Almost the last verse of the Quran (5:3) says that God has now completed the religion of Islam. How can we write books centuries after that and give them the status of revealed literature? Yet, all ulema are agreed that Hadith is akin to revelation. This is clearly the height of irrationality”

    You are scaring me Brother, you are talking like you know what has happened to us. Allah is clear on this point as well, where he says “What? Do they need a book other than the word of Allah?) Allah points us to the people of the book and points out that they threw their book behand there back and acted like they didn’t know what Allah was talking about.  He then warns those destined for the punishment that the writing of their own book is the selling of their souls for a miserable price.

    Do you understand that neither of the people of the book have their book? They threw it away or had it taken from them.  In the case of Ban’ai Isra’il, they had their book taken away from them for worshiping false gods. Allah ordered Nebuchadnezzar to take their Arc of the Covenant containing their book away never to be seen again.  What is called the Torah today is the conglomeration of oral traditions put together by two opposing groups of scholars.  The Nazara were split between two opposing groups as well. The Trinitarians led by Athanasius and the Monotheists led by Arius. Constantine sided with Athanasius and the Trinitarians and the Monotheists Nazara where hunted down like dogs, crucified and otherwise murdered.  All of the books of the Monotheist Nazara where burned when found.  Both the Nazara and the Yahud rely on oral traditions provided by men and have gone through many revisions. Why do I ramble on about this you ask?  Because we have done the very same thing, we have thrown the Book of Allah behind our backs like we do not know what it is and instead follow our own set of Oral Tradtions. And in some circles those Oral Traditions overrule the speech of Allah. Do you wonder why we have this Jihadist philosophy?  It is because we place the words of ignorant men above the speech of Allah.

     “Similarly Sharia was first codified 120 years after the demise of the Prophet, based on some verses of the Quran and Arab practices of that era. This has been changing from country to country and age to age.  How can we Muslims be told, as we are by a multitude of scholars, that it is a Muslim’s prime religious duty to see that this Sharia is established in the world”

    Are you talking about ‘Imam al Shafi’i” or of the Mutazilites? Both represent a sad misleading of us off the path. But alas, we followed then and are responsible as well.

     “ Wherever a Muslim turns, from al-Ghazali, Ibn-e-Taimiyya, Abdul Wahhab, Sheikh Sarhindi, Shah Waliullah to Syed Qutb and Maulana Maududi, he or she gets the same Islam-supremacist message. “

    Islam is the supreme way of life for humankind. There is no getting around that if you believe what Allah, through his Messenger, has delivered to us the Qur’an. But being the correct and supreme way of life (religion) does not give us the right to impose our faith on anyone else.  Allah is clear on this point in many places. I suggest you read Fatiha, then read Al-Baqarah.  They are tightly tied to each other.  As the Muslims, we are supposed to be the light that illuminates the path to success.  We should hope and desire to lead the Nazara, Yahud, Hindi and all those others that are astray onto the correct path by our example.  If we attempt to force others onto the path we can only do so by leaving the path and becoming gatekeepers driving them away with our arrogance.

    What I say here is from myself with my understanding of the Speech of Allah. If I misspeak here it is only because of my error and not that of Allah.

    By Ibrahim YM - 12/19/2016 12:19:29 AM



  • @Kamal Uddin Ansari what are the questions ? bring them on.
    Generalization of things are a thought of weak minds.
    be specific.
    Amazing is a zing zing.
    be specific.
    #ASKAMUSLIM.
    By Mastan Shaik - 11/10/2016 11:18:24 AM



  •  It is the time for the muslim to think about questions raised by the nonmuslim, most of the Muslim countries are in chaos still they read God's word, amazing. By Kamal Uddin Ansari - 11/10/2016 11:01:54 AM



  • New Age Islam - People having difference in opinion in terms of Religious theologies is nothing new and it has nothing to do with Islam. The same is seen in hinduism and Christianity as well. They too kill each other in the name of religion. This is a human problem. Not a theology problem. And it starts right from our childhood. We tend to feel more attached to our school, country, clan, tribe, political party, etc..etc.. etc.. as we consider that our identity.. The easiest way to consider our identity better than the others is to bad mouth the other person's identity. Happens in schools, colleges, work place etc... etc.... and converts to it's worst when it reaches the point where religion is included in politics. This is what we are seeing around the world. Remove religion from politics, and nothing of that sort will happen. By Asim Afzal - 11/10/2016 10:57:58 AM



  • Aayina: “Justice delayed is justice denied” This statement is true in the case of Naseer, who was recently freed by court after 23 years. Do you remember his words after getting out of under-trial prison? He told that he was a living corpse. You can imagine his mental agony and torture he tolerated and his trust upon judiciary Indian police who had framed him to get accolades from RSS minded people. Anyway, my point was that the Bhopal jail under-trials even could not get that chance as they too might have come out of charges after 23 years, but they were killed brutally in an apparent fake encounter.

    You have asked, “Does this court delay is happening to Muslims only?”

    No, absolutely not! This delay is not caused to the Muslims only, but there is a large chunk of poor Indians who are the victims of delayed justice. However, who cares? Our previous CJI had wept in a judicial programme while discussing the matter of shortage of judges in Supreme Court, but who listens?

    You are right. The committed Muslims are trying to play a constructive role, but on the other hand, the uncommitted Muslims are busy in garnering financial, social support for their political gain by using the illiterate, innocent Muslims.

    These are the petty Muslim politician or the majority leaders who have made the Muslim population a vote bank, and they are playing victim-game or blame-game whatsoever suits to them. Even our PM projects himself as the great savior of Muslim women from the oppressive clutches of triple talaq under whose government, Muslim women were killed brutally, wombs torn apart and the undelivered human kids were hung upon the spears.

    You can imagine which way Indian society is heading under BJP rule, what good the police, court or bureaucrats can deliver to the Indian Muslim community.

    Your suggestion: “Write some good done by Hindus to Muslim rather than constantly focus on Muslim victim”. I whole-heartedly, appreciate and feel obliged to my Hindu brothers, sisters, teachers and students above all. What I am today, and there are Billions like me, is due to my Indian proud society and composite culture, which has attributed fully to our growth, no doubt.

    Whatsoever, I dislike and write against is purely because of selfish, corrupt, heartless and money-minded people only, I never mean those peaceful people who are very close to my heart even more than our community people are.

    Anyway, I support Sharia law in some cases and think that the instant capital punishment is a must for the rapist and killers in any country.

    By Raihan Nezami - 11/3/2016 11:13:54 AM



  • To Raihan Nezami.
    Brother as long you do not try to prove only Muslims are victim in India, I am in full agreement with you, in my India not only Muslims are poor or victim of everything, every weak humans are suffering, listen Tarekh Fathe, he says exactly that how our elite class is irresponsible and humiliate poor and weak.

    One more thing you are contradicting your own words in last comment, on one example  you giving example of how evidence are surfaced out and other side you saying that how Muslim innocent victim was freed from court.

    Does this court delay is happening to Muslims only?

    I always see Indian Muslim as second largest majority which can play vital role in leading country ahead, rather than busy in playing victim, victim role.

    Committed Indian Muslim had shown positve side.

    Their are many Indian Muslims, Hindus, Christians and Sikhs left India and take away their heart and turn their face away from India, but we have to live hear, we have no choice. Western world humanity and equal rights are fake, so think of India and hope in it.

    This website is design for international audience, but we have to focus on India, no western world is going to take our population or going to give us food or technology. The technology we get from west  is outdated or consumer base or pollution making.

    Pakistan or Bangladesh is also not going to take Indian  Muslim population, the Muhajir in Karchi still killed, this Muhajir had no choice like you to Balme Hindus for everything bad happening to them in Pakistan, so focus on India and write some good done by Hindus to Muslim rather than constantly focus on Muslim victim.

    In India you find heaps of example form poor community of all relgion helping each other.
    By Aayina - 11/3/2016 2:35:06 AM



  • Aayina: Thanks for giving the perfect examples of lawlessness, political vendetta prevailing in the country under RSS rule. My point is the judicial system that has some logic behind it. What is wrong if the affected family accepts the blood money? It will help them in future, if they don't agree, even a royal prince is killed for Islamic justice, it is Shariya Law.

     I gave example of fresh fake encounters that is happening in the greatest democracy. Is it justice? Have you asked a question any time to yourself?

    Why the Muslim under-trials only escape from the jail?

    Later on, they are killed and some weapons are planted, proofs are destroyed before the forensic team reaches.

    This type of law and order you appreciate where Babri Masjid detainee is released innocent after 23 years.

    The present government has ruined the Indian judicial system and they are using it to their political gain.

    That's my point whether you like it or not. Thanks!


    By Raihan Nezami - 11/2/2016 11:21:55 AM



  • Well any relgion people with money and power can get away in India that is agree with you Rihan Nezami, you should remember the case of Salma Khan. 

    So do not point out only Muslim victims, there are many Hindu and Cristian victims too. it's the country of powerful and careless people.

    As Indian politician and rich are above the law and behave lawless, but than India also had another benefit of this lawlessness, lot of politician and powerful criminal are murdered openly. Prime example was Indira Ghandhi was killed by Sikh to get their justice, Rajiv Ghandhi was killed by Tamilians and many more.

    what is full justice and in between justice!
    By Aayina - 11/2/2016 1:46:01 AM



  • Aayina: Nothing can please a person who has a negative perspective towards any person, ideology or any religion. Beauty or ugliness lies in the eyes of the beholders, the world seems to you as your glasses are through which you look at the world. In my country what would have been in that situation, the victim's family, would have been threatened, involved in fake case, if not agreed to withdraw the case, they would have been murdered. Before everything, the case would not have been registered against a royal person - resourse person. Blood money is a very reasonable option, anyway, the family member is lost, what benefits the survivors will get by having the murderer killed, but if that negotiation fails, the victim gets full justice, it is called Islamic law. In India, a criminal of genocide gets bail, and eight innocent SIMI activists are made to escape from jail and killer in fake encounter. It happens only in India!  By Raihan Nezami - 11/1/2016 12:28:29 AM



  • Saudi Prince beheaded?

    This is used more as propoganda?

    The justice system is funny in that regard, Muslims try to gloryfy again defeating their own relgion.

    I am very much aware of the blood money you can give to victim and get away, Saudi royals tried that and did not work out, so please Muslims( especially Indian Muslim) do not glorify Islam by using petty things.

     The intensions of Saudi royals were not to punish against the crime, but to use money power and get away with if they can but the opposite(victim) party were reluctant so take blood money.

    Let's put similar situation in Indian context, do our powerful politicians and business people will not give death threat along with money if victim is not ready to accept the money.

    I said Indian Muslims, because just use your brains more rather than weakening Saudis using the stunt, if they were not able to buy the victim, use it for glorifying Islam.

    How many of our Muslim hyderabadi monir girls are bought by this rich Saudi Arabs under the systmatic use of Islam.

    One more thing to add mostly all Indian Muslims dislike Modi and this Saudi give prestigious award to Modi, how is that! killer of Muslim was awarded, what fair and just system of Saudis to cheat, every as aspect of Muslim growth for more englitment and resonance. May be Modi had given blood money and get away.

    Thanks Brothers aand sisters, may be I have not offended and abused your relegion, just put the facts for my Indian Muslim.
    By Aayina - 10/31/2016 5:13:42 AM



  •  @Arvind Tiwari Its bhagwa brigade who complained about my previuos Fb id and got it blocked... By Md Shamim Siddiqui - 10/29/2016 2:34:45 AM



  • Don't blame Islam for the mistakes of its so called custodians. By Krishna Goud - 10/27/2016 9:40:02 AM



  • Jung ke binaa Shanthi nahi aayegi...
    Ram ne bhi Ravan se jung kiya uske baad shanthi aayi...
    Arjun ne bhi Duryodhon se Jung kiya uske baad shanthi aayi...
    Krishna ne bhi Kanghs ke khilaaf jung kiya uske baad hi shanthi aayi...
    Abh Mujahid bhi America ke khilaaf jung kar rahe hai.aur manavtha ke dushman america ko barbaad karne ke baad Hi duniya mein aman chaim aur shanthi aayegi...
    By Md Jafar Khan - 10/27/2016 9:39:26 AM



  • Love sultan sahin.... Impressive thoughts.... By Suresh Kalotra - 10/27/2016 9:36:46 AM



  • New Age Islam:Your questions are good. These need answers By Syed Ahson - 10/27/2016 9:36:23 AM



  • This link is not working, I think , islamists have complain to Facebook to ban it ! FB is acting as fatwa book . By Arvind Tiwari - 10/27/2016 9:35:31 AM



  • Mr Gunjan Mohanka:
    Sir, I request you to study the Islamic principles, rules of justice, its applications and then, express your opinions. Islamic justice is equal for all - Muslims or Non-Muslims, a royal prince or a common man etc. You may not have read, so I am telling you, recently a royal prince is beheaded in Saudi Arabia on charges of killing. What more do you want?
    By Raihan Nezami - 10/27/2016 12:10:41 AM



  • @Mastan Shaik Try to differentiate between Islam and its understanding or theology. Why are four or five major schools of thought in Islam, all valid and legitimate? Why so many sects, all calling each other kafir, infidel, deserving death? Is there a single Muslim who is not a Kafir in the eyes of some other Muslim? Why? Different understandings, different theologies. Try to differentiate between Islam and its understanding, Islamic theologies. By Sultan Shahin - 10/26/2016 8:54:40 PM



  • When you dont like Islam, why do you use the word Islam and a Muslim Name ?
    if you have any concerns #askamuslim.
    point wise that is.
    1) give reference of chapter and verse and ask a question.
    2) if you dont have anything like that, please live a good life in which ever religion you like.
    otherwise tell every one openly that you are being funded to do this.
    By Mastan Shaik - 10/26/2016 8:53:21 PM



  • Yep and if it means equality why is TT just for men; polygamy only for men; why is the harsher for non islamic criminals then for Islamic criminals.. By Gunjan Mohanka - 10/26/2016 8:52:35 PM



  • Only 'peaceful' religion of Islam have such Peacefull organizations of muslims like ISIS, Alqaeda, Boko Haram, Let, SIMI, Jaish, Tahreeke Taliban and Taliban,Alshbab. By Ram Avtar Gupta - 10/26/2016 8:52:07 PM



  • Actually ground truth is different, wherever Muslims are in majority they disrupt the harmony and secualrism. Please don't igoner that. And the way inlux is going on within coming years when Muslims will be majority they will enforce Sharia. Trust me it has happened earlier and it will happen in future also.
    Regarding partitiom of Bengal was total different ball game. It was due to make the province smaller for better bureaucracy as Bengal was huge provinve consisting Bengal, Bihar, Assam and Orissa. It was also done yo weaken the freedom movement as most Bengali Hindus were agitated against British. Please don't link two different things to support some power hungers like ( Jinnah and Nehru). Please accept that partition was based on religions lines. That is truth you can't deny.
    By Sudip Ray - 10/26/2016 8:51:03 PM



  • @sudip ray i think u r not a bengali.. because bengal also divided in 1919 by british . where was jinnah then... regarding nehru its bhagwa brigade not me who is claiming that nehru was behind the partition of india... btw whatever were the reason for the partition. but we muslims did't went to pak we decided to stay in india thats what my point is... just name a single muslim organisation who is trying to impose sharia law in india oror converting india into islamic nation or atleaat advocating for the same.. hope u won't find any instead its Hindu organisations who is advocating for a Hindu rashtra.. for this they have created so many hate spewing organisations... By Md Shamim Siddiqui - 10/26/2016 8:50:20 PM



  • bharat kr your Nathuram godse was the first terrorist of india from rss.. and now in the name rammandir several other terrorists organisations came to existance in these days.. and they are playing in the hands of bjpigs well known to everybody... just do some introspection before blaming madarsaa and muslims... why your Gobarchap govt of modi unable to frame a single madarsa anywhere in the country. even after bardhaman bomb blast tried so hard but failed... and its a still a challenge to your Gobarchap modi govt to prove the involvement of any single madarsa in terrorism... By Md Shamim Siddiqui - 10/26/2016 8:49:48 PM



  • No muslim criticize terrorism ....why..? By Ram Avtar Gupta - 10/26/2016 8:49:17 PM



  • Shamim it was not brain child of British, it was brain child of Jinnah by quoting how could they stay with people who worships cow?? Please read that repeatedly. British neithr told nor asked to get seperated. It was Jinnah and Nehru. Nehru was Atheist so he didn't pick two nation, while Jinnah thrived for having highest position embrace the two nation. Both of them were bigot and power hungry. Amd more importantly Muslims felt more safe in India's secular concept thus most of them haven't gone to Pakistan or Bangladesh. See to be very honest, be true to yourself, I have seen that Indian Muslims have became more violent and few wanted to convert our secular country to Islamic country by any means. I don't know what will they get by doing this?? By Sudip Ray - 10/26/2016 8:48:30 PM



  •  Md Shamim Siddiqui how many of you follow Sufi Islam, it has become extinct with funding of madrasa from Saudi money. 
    How many bomb blasts are attributed to green brigade, I have lost count. 
    Stop this policy of playing victim, world has realised true colours and no one can be fooled except those cunning politicians who in order to save block votes, put all in command of single patron in order to keep the faithful busy in unproductive activities. 
    Come out of the shell and bloom instead of being introvert and waste energy complaining.
    By Bharat Kumar - 10/26/2016 8:48:03 PM



  • @Bharat kr if wahabi islam is bad then why your bhagwa brigade attacked with bomb blast at ajmer dargah belongs to Sufi islam...??? By Md Shamim Siddiqui - 10/26/2016 8:47:05 PM



  • Siddiqui Sudip ray 2 nation theory was the brain child of britishers whome sanghpariwar was more loyal to them than muslims.. thats why more muslims decided to stay in india than to go to pak and its a fact... just understand the history when u r reading it.... By Md Shamim - 10/26/2016 8:46:24 PM



  •  Bharat Kumar , yes you are correct. Jinnah made two nation theory on religious lines but was still good. Around 1960's Jia-Ul-Haq reconstructed the constitution and made non- muslims as second calss citizen. Then the inflows of Bengali Hinus as well Punjabi Hindu migrated towards India in the fear of getting killed raped. By Sudip Ray - 10/26/2016 8:45:41 PM



  • Sudip Ray I think General jia ul Haq made Pakistan an Islamic state. Though Jinnah got Pakistan on religious line but the state was stated to be secular.i may be wrong but I suppose this to be correct. By Bharat Kumar - 10/26/2016 8:45:05 PM



  • Guys Pakistan was never a secular country it was built on Islamic ideology and Historians said tht Jinnah wanted to produce Pakistan as an example of pure islamic country that world would follow. If you guys please don't know then read the preamble of both Bangladesh and Pakistan's Constitution. The then prime ministers ordered to forcefully throw out Hindus or any other religious people. Apart from Muslims everyone in those country were second grade citizen. No one apart from Muslim can hold higher ranks in any government position. I am not saying those. Historians said that. By Sudip Ray - 10/26/2016 8:44:37 PM



  • @Md Shamim, plz read history. Two nation theory was on religious line. Don't fake anything. There were plentyful of examples. Pakistan and East Pakaistan Islamic State By Sudip Ray - 10/26/2016 8:43:57 PM



  • @Md Shamim Siddiqui true they didn't received it as dowry but we should not not be expected to accept invaders droppings. 
    Moreover Pakistan too was a secular country by Jinnah but subsequently your brothers ousted and took over Hindus and their property. 
    I am not asking you to leave Hindustan but to accept and honour Indian Islam and not wahabi Islam being propagated by Pakistan, who have traced their lineage to Arabs and are embarrassed to be son of soil.
    By Bharat Kumar - 10/26/2016 8:43:19 PM



  • I don't think anyone should care what religion one belongs to.. He should just live with a little belief in something more powerful than us.. A Pakistani guy had written an Urdu quote, something like.. "Insaan ke shiddat mei toh Mohabbat hoti hai.. Nafrat karna toh unhe sikhaaya jaata hai".. I don't know what Quran says.. But if it teaches anyone to hate someone else, its wrong.. But I don't think Quran teaches us to hate or something.. It's all about love.. Happiness, laughter of kids, brother sister bickerings.. So sad that people actually want to destroy each other and not enjoy the essence of the beautiful life we have been given.. We are in a modern era.. We don't need religion to explain anything.. We got science and we got morals.. Just shun this idea of differences.. It's complete fuckin bullshit.. By Prithvish Banerjee - 10/26/2016 8:42:44 PM



  • Bharat kr india divided between zinnah and nehru.. thats why more muslims decided to stay in india than to go to pakistan as nehru declared india a secular country... btw your bhagwa brigades mother does't recieved india in dowry. therefore u should't expect from muslims to leave india.. By Md Shamim Siddiqui - 10/26/2016 8:42:19 PM



  • @ Md Shamim Siddiqui I accept your perspective, Hindustan is bad, NIA, upper caste all are culprits. 
    But you have to appreciate that the nation was divided on religious lines, and Pakistan now don't have Hindu population so why you expect Hindustan to oblige.
    By Bharat Kumar - 10/26/2016 8:36:33 PM



  • just see the face of hindu terrorism.. as deepa is first threatening and at the end she is writing peace.... what she is claiming is sleeper cells and isis which is mostly claimed by saffron brigade on the behest of uppercaste controled NIA on fabricated and imagenary evidence basis... By Md Shamim Siddiqui - 10/26/2016 8:34:53 PM



  • Naseersaab,

    My intelligent reading of the Quran is not going to be of any help to you. It has to come from your heart.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/26/2016 1:31:21 PM



  • GM Sb,

    Enlighten us with your intelligent reading of the Quran. We are all ears.

    By Naseer Ahmed - 10/26/2016 1:21:38 AM



  • Naseersaab, There is a difference  in a literalistic reading of the Quran and an intelligent reading of the Quran.
    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/25/2016 1:47:57 PM



  • GM Sb,

    The basis of all my understanding of what Islam means, is the Quran. If your basis is not the Quran, then it will be different.

    By Naseer Ahmed - 10/25/2016 3:31:25 AM



  • Naseersaab.

    I have told you what my understanding of divinity in Islam is. If you have a different understanding, so be it.
    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/25/2016 1:47:22 AM



  •  Mr shahin congrats for founding a new religion with the financial and logical support of RSS. Since one's life is a reflection of one's personality and thinking, it speaks volumes about you also. BTW do you teach your new religion to your hindu wife as well? By Tarique Khan - 10/18/2016 1:55:43 PM



  • Big question but not a single Maulvi will define this to you of course they will provide the silly logics By Amit Sahay - 10/18/2016 1:53:22 PM



  • you cant associate 1.6 billion muslims to extremists... there are only 1 or 2% of the muslims all around globe which misunderstand the concept of Jihad... rest are the peace loving muslims.... They hate terrorists... they hate terrorism.... they possess a great love and admiration for their fellow beings irrespective of regional and religious differences... Our misfortune that love is not the news fodder and media displays only those who disrupt peace... By Ibn E Makhmoor - 10/18/2016 1:51:22 PM



  • Give me one verse of Quran where its soaked or supported violence ? Name a single one ! By Shah Emaan - 10/18/2016 1:33:21 PM



  • Because peace will be remain By Mohummad Sharjil Ansari - 10/18/2016 1:31:30 PM



  • Who r u to put a question on Quranic Verses. By AL Misbah Rehman - 10/18/2016 1:31:01 PM



  • The same is true of all religions. Religion does not like refrom. Like Quran, Veda is also shruti means from God. Supporters of Veda too think that it all the wisdom. By Dipak Kumar Chakrabarty - 10/18/2016 1:30:29 PM



  • Every body is enemy of Islam because Islam is the True religion. Quran says " No profit to him from all his wealth and all his gains , Burnt soon will he be in the fire of blazing flame". By Faiz Ahmad - 10/18/2016 1:29:13 PM



  • Sir Just see who are doing it by the same of Islam. Why millions of muslims are dying by the name of Islam. Amazing: terreist: muslims, maximum dying: muslims.. By Syed Ahmad Jami Waheedy - 10/18/2016 12:28:04 PM



  • Great salute to u Sultan Saheen Sir I totally agree with it.Modernise way of thinking within Islam is very much need of the situation as the same was followed by Israel only one-tenth population they ve compared to world's population still this small country is counted worth in the entire world. By Mokbul Hussain - 10/18/2016 12:23:48 PM



  • The person who is blind Inside can't see all this. He sees as per goggle he wears. By M Sultan Lone - 10/18/2016 12:00:29 PM



  • Russia attacked Afganistan it was love, America attacked Afghanistan it was love. Russia and America attacking Syria it is love, America attacked Iraq it is love. Israel attacks pelistine it is love. World war first was love and world 2nd was love. Superpowers prepearing for third it will be love By M Sultan Lone - 10/18/2016 11:52:16 AM



  • It is the ideas that go into a man's brain that makes him do all atrocities with out remorse religion politics drugs(by affecting thought process)are all same religion makes statements and find out observations to support it science makes observations and derives statement from them By Satishkumar Govind - 10/18/2016 11:48:09 AM



  • Before posting this subject we need to know your conclusion Mr. Sultan. By Mohammed Suhail Patchur - 10/18/2016 11:40:35 AM



  • Every authority has a right to punish the wrong doer and guilt whether it be the head of the family or the state or the Super Power. Every code has some penal provision to punish the wrong doer. If any code does not mention the penal provision for the wrong. It would be set aside and shall be considered as incomplete. Jihad when, why, how, where and against whom you should learn the basic first. I think your knowledge about Islam is like a childish knowlege Sultan Shaheen. By Pervez Ahmed - 10/18/2016 11:29:40 AM



  • GM Sb,

    The God in Islam, Christianity and Judaism is merciful and  forgiving to those who seek His forgiveness and endeavor earnestly on the path that is straight and righteous.

    God punishes those who reject God's mercy and forgiveness and actively seek His punishment. These are the people who indulge in open defiance of all that God commands and create mischief on the earth. God warns such people in the clearest terms and shows them a mirror that truly reflects their ugliness. God would be failing in His duty if He didn't do that or if He punished the people without warning.

    God creates the right environment for producing the best results.  It is man who fails despite being given the Book to guide him. Man rejects the Book in his arrogance thinking that he is self-sufficient or superior to even God. The Jews and the Christians are reminded to follow their scriptures if they hope for God's mercy. They are not asked to follow the Quran.

    None of your arguments or anyone else's arguments are new. The very same arguments are found in the Quran and God's response to such arguments. God has left man with no excuse to reject His Book and all the arguments are in vain. Read the Quran with the intention of understanding it. I cannot help you any further.


    By Naseer Ahmed - 10/18/2016 2:47:20 AM



  • Killing innocent human beings, in the name of religion, is not a religion. !
    PEACE IS NOT MERE STATEMENT OF MIND,  IT IS A STATE OF MIND, THAT REFLECTS THROUGH PEACEFUL
    ACTIONS. 
    By Trishool - 10/17/2016 9:19:31 PM



  • Naseersaab,
    Words indicating hate, violence, revenge, small-mindedness, mean-spiritedness etc. can only be uttered by humans. Contextualizing them does not make them divine.
    God in Islam is glorious, merciful and forgiving.
    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/17/2016 3:37:38 PM



  •  @Vishnu Kp Before that Allah will destroy you and your whole family inshaallah, By Mohammad Yousf - 10/17/2016 1:14:12 PM



  • Mr. Asgharji,
    Please enlighten and  quote me the relevant verse and the chapter.
    Thanks
    By Sadoro Ddaoputt - 10/17/2016 1:09:23 PM



  • The Quran says it was intended for the Arabs, and the Prophet was only for them.
    Anyone who has read the Quran and understood it cannot dispute this fact. 
    By M Asghar - 10/17/2016 1:03:37 PM



  • Abu Mashud Talukdar ur right. We must destroy Islam, which is creating lot's of disturbance. By Vishnu Kp - 10/17/2016 1:00:21 PM



  • @Vishnu Kp haha bldy hipocrites ppl r still existng omg.. By Abu Mashud Talukdar - 10/17/2016 12:55:25 PM



  • Comment from Vishnu Kp

    By Vishnu Kp - 10/17/2016 12:54:08 PM



  • Very banal argument..Can one say you are neither Sultan nor Shaheen so why bother ? By Hammad Farooqui - 10/17/2016 12:53:12 PM



  • What I understand is that you do not understand actually the Holi Quaran.
    If you don't understand something,please don't pass your narrow message to others
    By Nazrul Laskar - 10/17/2016 11:57:23 AM



  • Blood and Gore By Prabeer Kumar Sikdar - 10/17/2016 11:55:30 AM



  •  It's outstanding and outmost,a big controversy over whether the Islamic world run s after thoughts and prayers wth theirs own theory and excellently theological seminary and guidance of Islam,,,when Islamic country was invaded by major nd ther allies power all kept mumm,,,these types of the illegally war&genocide s,antagonism,created,, an adverse mentality in non educated people,,semi educated Islamic diciples to make more orthodox to take revenges again and again against non Islam ,, Only a proper. Education recommended to be a remarkable achievement,and remedial applications by which the world's most ly can be saved nowadays,,, By M A Ohab Mollah - 10/17/2016 11:52:53 AM



  • Change the education system of madarsas. Taught them humanity,basic science, math n cyber education. Vulnerable mind fall prey easily to indoctrinate religion. By Sankarlal Pattanaik - 10/17/2016 11:38:24 AM



  • GM Sb,

    What is there to question? The verses provide evidence of God's omniscience, omnipresence, mercy etc. Only an omniscient and omnipresent God is aware of what goes in the hearts of people and can warn in time which prevented both parties from coming to harm. A non-merciful God would have allowed the enemies of the Muslims to get caught doing wrong and ensured their slaughter. Considering that in all the battles put together, not more than a couple of thousands from all sides were killed (my estimate was about 5K butMohd Yunus Sb did not agree to a figure higher than 2K), what more proof is required of God's mercy, omniscience, omnipresence etc? And this only because the enemies of the Prophet and Islam were bent on the complete annihilation of the Muslims. Else, not a single person would have been killed.
     
    Also, only a person bent on twisting facts can miss that there are verses such as 5:65 to 5:71 of hope, mercy and forgiveness for the same people who were bent on mischief.
    By Naseer Ahmed - 10/17/2016 10:16:08 AM



  • Naseersaab,

    We all think of God as the Almighty, omnipresent, omniscient, beneficient and merciful Master of the Universe. Any words quoted in His name that do not measure up to that lofty image must be questioned.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/17/2016 2:07:15 AM



  • GM Sb,

    God is what He is. Not what you imagine God to be. 
    How does it demean God to show up the reality what man is like - whether it was the hypocrites among the Muslims or the Christians and the Jews? And who do you think is the imposter who is attributing anything to God?

    By Naseer Ahmed - 10/17/2016 12:53:40 AM



  • SO DEAR SODORO , YOU MEAN TO SAY SINCE ALLAH HAS CREATED HATE 
    (as apposed to love) SO SHOULD USE IT , YES YOU SHOULD HATE THE EVIL 
    BUT LOVE THE RIGHT, THE TRUTH.
    By zaheerhusain khan - 10/16/2016 9:10:21 PM



  • Qaseem Ji, you have questioned my knowledge on Arabic. Thank you for asking that question. You have made it easy for me to respond and confirmed my belief that Islam was meant for the people of Saudi Arabia only and that too, for people of Mecca and Medinah only. If it is a must to know Arabic to learn Quran, beyond the shadow of doubt inference can be drawn that this violent and uncultured Islam was meant for those people and that too for that time only, NOT for you.
    It is pity that you are still suffering from slave mentality. Get your DNA checked and it will confirm that your grand or great grand parents were converted to  Islam either by sword on their necks, or were lured by some handouts. They had no knowledge of their own religion they followed at the time and had no knowledge of Islam when Islamic invaders converted them using forceful means. You are suffering from Stockholm syndrome, loving those who made you slaves.
    Let it be clear that Islam is NOT a religion by any yard stick. It is a political movement to enslave people towards Saudi Arabia. All the Muslims of Indian sub-continent are Saudi slaves. Unless you face Saudi Arabia, your prayers are incomplete. If God pervades entire universe, what is the purpose to face Mecca to worship a stone lying in there. You people are the biggest stone worshipers. You cast stones at Shaitan during Hajj/Umrah which again is in the form of a stone. That makes it stone worship in reverse direction. If God cannot be in stone, how can the Shaitan be in stone. The funny thing is that Millions and Millions of people have been casting stones at Shaitan since 1400 years and still the Shaitan is alive. You should understand that Shaitan lies within your mind, it is within you, not outside of you. You have to kill Shaitan within your heart, not in Mecca.
    Leave this cult to those Jahils of Arabia. You people are born intellectuals. Islam is not for you. 
    By Sadoro Ddaoputt - 10/16/2016 9:07:17 PM



  • QUOTE:After studying Quran only  I said what I have said.
    UNQUOTE:Do you know Arabic, its SARF and NAHW?
    If you know then pl. do the I'RAB of the very 2nd aayah of Baqarah for us to check how far have you been successful in your attempt, then what to talk of understanding Quran. You are on. By Qaseem - 10/16/2016 9:05:26 PM



  • Pointing out RSS propaganda or American imperialism does not help us in what we need to do in order to make our religion the best that it can be. We need to eradicate hate, intolerance and the jihadist mind-set from our theology. We should be serious when we call Islam "the religion of peace". We must mean exactly what we say.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/16/2016 3:52:15 PM



  • Naseersaab says, "Do you need to understand what all Allah does when he sends his Messenger or the ways in which He becomes a Helper and Guide to those who submit to Him completely?"

    Is that your explanation for words being attributed to God that demean the very concept of God?

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/16/2016 3:40:03 PM



  • Haquesaab,

    I quoted 49:13 because you had said, "I am rather grateful to God for not having 'forgotten to write' verse 5.51."

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/16/2016 3:20:03 PM



  • As far as the article is concerned, it completely ignores what the US did after 911 resulting in the death of millions of innocents as if this fact is totally irrelevant. 

    It also ignores the fact that the US has played a direct role in the creation and funding of the ISIS.

    friendsofsyria.wordpress.com/2016/10/11/its-over-hillarys-isis-email-just-leaked-its-worse-than-anyone-could-have-imagined/

    So who is directly instrumental in creating the monster and feeding it?  There is absolutely no doubt that the US has exploited every weakness of the Muslims and used them against their own people and it is a pity that so many have allowed themselves to be so used including countries like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Iran has a much better record.
    By Naseer Ahmed - 10/16/2016 9:32:07 AM



  • Haque Sb,

    I was referring to the 600 page fatwa which did not make the single valid point there was to make. 
    By Naseer Ahmed - 10/16/2016 9:08:07 AM



  • Naseer sb, if you are referring to the main article of Jn Shahin sb, then in my comment of 11.10.16, I have been dismissive of his entire story as his obsession. Frankly speaking I don't take him seriously because he has a job to do. I have just gone through his article cursorily. In  the 1400 years history, volumes of literature must have been produced, and with the resources of RSS etc  it is possible to gather some writings without context to show Islam and Muslims in bad light. If context is seen the same entries will fall in place and will look entirely reasonable.But we understand this. We have evidence of history in our favour. Muslims have given to the world. Ideologies like hindutva, and crony capitalism cannot give anything because they take away from the world at large. They are fascist slavemakers therefore they have a natural grudge against a liberating ideology and especially one with its ability to strike back with the defensive doctrine of  jihad. This jihad word has been very offensive to them throughtout the history of their aggression. Now these gentlemen are looking for a reason for the acceptance of struggle as the guiding principle of a Muslim's life. They now find that cause lies within the core doctrines of monotheism of Abrahimic religions (Remember, imperialists- capitalists but not Christians and Zionists but not Jews are inimically disposed against Islam today). As far as Sultan Shahin sb is concerned he is entitled to do his job, even though no Muslim gets impressed by his ideas. Let obsessions flourish ! The plain fact is that this world has tormentors (kafirs) and tormentees (Muslims) and both are at loggerheads, naturally. By Manzurul Haque - 10/16/2016 7:49:55 AM



  • Haque Sb,

    Theologically, the only valid point  is:

    War is a subject matter for the rulers and not for ordinary citizens. Ordinary citizens or groups of people cannot carry out acts of war. This amounts to creating mischief and they will go down as mischief makers.

    He didn't however make the only valid point there was to make.
    By Naseer Ahmed - 10/16/2016 5:22:37 AM



  • @Syed Ahson sir, I would be glad if it's true. But as majority stays on fringe and prefer not ferment trouble, their silence is always taken as approval. 
    Till the time objections not come from within, the menace couldn't be tackled. And you appreciate that not many are ready to take on the nuisance makers.
    Even Pakistan who in order to bleed India raised the bogey is now getting back in same coin. 
    People understand but once the problem takes religious overtone and sermons arrive they too start participating. 
    Religion and power is an evil cocktail and must remain separate.
    By Bharat Kumar - 10/16/2016 3:04:09 AM



  • The concept of Dharm Yudh has nothing to do with religion , as understood in Islam . Dharm Yudh implies fight for righteousness . It has nothing to do with who you worship , how you worship and so on . These issues have always been for the individual to decide in sanatan dharma , including the choice to be an atheist . All the protagonists followed the same religion in Mahabhartha By Ashok Chohan - 10/16/2016 3:02:04 AM



  • @Bharat kumar, Charming Biswas The remaining never support terrorism,injustice and destruction.They don't support IS and other terrorist organisations.Believe me. By Syed Ahson - 10/16/2016 3:01:25 AM



  • @syed ahson Is there peace in any Muslim nation, wherever Muslims attain majority, trouble starts brewing. 
    Kashmir had a rich tradition of education till Islam came, but once the mullahs got toe hold, the population started observing wahabi ideology and see India. As oppressor while identifying with Pakistan as a Muslim brethren. Whereas there are more Muslims in India than in Pakistan, India is more prosperous than Pakistan but then too on sermons of mullahs and other religious leaders, Kashmiri Muslims are fighting state after ousting Kashmiri pundits. 
    do you want us to believe that 5% of radicalised people ousted full Hindu population without active or passive support from remaining.
    By Bharat Kumar - 10/16/2016 3:00:23 AM



  • @Syed Ahson Crusades was in response to the muslim invasion of Europe. The first Crusade started approximately 400 years AFTER the first islamic jihad in christian lands. And yes i agree there has been war for every religion but most religions today have reformed. islam seems to stay in the past and keep people in it. Lastly if 95% did believe in peace we would not have ISIS surrounded by majority islamic nations and still thriving. By Charming Biswas - 10/16/2016 2:59:22 AM



  • Historically, all religions have gone for wars and terrorism. The crusades and dharmayudh are forgotten. Among Muslims , majority, about 95% believe in peace. Those who are indulging in terrorism are exploiting the sentiments of gullible Muslims and will be certainly defeated in the long run and peace will prevail over war and destruction. By Syed Ahson - 10/16/2016 2:57:00 AM



  • @Ehtesham Inam You are missing the point. With sleeper cells everywhere, ISIS has the potential of invading the world ... With the attitude AIMPLB and its female version, there is no scope for Muslims to outgrow their personal issues ... Shahin is attacking this ... which many Muslims don't ... why are you not seeing this? Do you want to wait until your own children suffer? Think about it ... Peace. By Deepa Natarajan - 10/16/2016 2:56:32 AM



  • @Ehtesham Inam What you care for or don't is immaterial . The potential is inbuilt into Islam , to hate and kill idolaters , polytheists, liberated women , and so on . By Ashok Chohan - 10/16/2016 2:55:28 AM



  • @Ehtesham Inam Historically it's true only till the time Muslims attain majority, there are numerous example in india too. Kashmir, Kerala and several other pockets where Muslims have become majority, Hindus are being ousted. And at most your so called peaceful people become passive supporters of installation of Islamic territory. By Bharat Kumar - 10/16/2016 2:53:31 AM



  • GM Sb, Do you need to understand what all Allah does when he sends his Messenger or the ways in which He becomes a Helper and Guide to those who submit to Him completely?

     Read my series in 6 parts The Story of the Prophetic mission of Muhammad (pbuh) from the Qu’ran (part 1): The early opposition

     

    He warned the Meccans exactly what they may expect to happen to them if they opposed the Prophet at a very early stage in the mission when the Prophet did not have more than half a dozen followers and made that prediction come true.

     

    He reminded the Jews and the Christians of their covenant with God to help the Messenger. Over and above the covenant in their own scriptures which they could not deny, there was the charter of Medina to which they were party. The ultimate argument of their lack of “good faith” is that they took for friends those who were the enemies of the Muslims and aided them when they had an understanding with the Muslims to at least remain neutral. What they had covenanted with Allah according to their own scriptures was as follows:

     

    (3:81) Behold! Allah took the covenant of the prophets, saying: "I give you a Book and Wisdom; then comes to you a messenger, confirming what is with you; do ye believe in him and render him help." Allah said: "Do ye agree, and take this my Covenant as binding on you?" They said: "We agree." He said: "Then bear witness, and I am with you among the witnesses."(82) If any turn back after this, they are perverted transgressors.

     

    By keeping the Prophet informed of the mischief planned by the hypocrites among the Muslims and the People of the Book and making it known to them that God was aware of everything that was going on between them, God demoralized these enemies from attempting anything serious which would have called for their destruction. It saved both parties from serious consequences.

     

    God says "Fight in the cause of Allah" and when you do that on the command of Allah, then Allah is your Guide and Helper. He keeps you informed of what is going on in the hearts of the enemy; He puts terror into the hearts of the enemy so that despite their numerical superiority they can do no harm. He says:  

     

    (58:21) Allah has decreed: "It is I and My messengers who must prevail": For Allah is One full of strength, able to enforce His Will.

    And He ensures exactly what He says.

    You can choose to submit to Allah and become an instrument of His will so that He may also become your Guide and Helper. There is no compulsion in religion however, and you may choose your way. You will begin to understand only when your questioning becomes part of clearing of a doubt and a genuine attempt to understand. As long as it is criticism, you will fail to understand anything. So if it is criticism, don’t even bother to respond. This exchange will go on without achieving anything. In any case, I have written an article in 6 parts which explains the entire prophetic mission spanning 22 years which can be read if you need to gain a holistic understanding.

    By Naseer Ahmed - 10/16/2016 2:50:50 AM



  • 600 pages only Dr Tahir Qadri can write. He would have destroyed so many hairs in the process by splitting! By Manzurul Haque - 10/16/2016 2:43:54 AM



  • I will just say that ur intention is bad and you just want to downfall of Muslim.In Our heartiest country India,there r about 20crore muslims but how many of them support terrorism or involve in terrorism?? You r basically focussing on few outlaws who for their profit trying to join the Islam with Terrorism. But we common muslim dont blv on violence.... By Ehtesham Inam - 10/16/2016 2:43:08 AM



  • @Pranab Kumar Das explain it? plzzz By Abu Mashud Talukdar - 10/16/2016 2:38:35 AM



  • Terrorist get moral support from #Quran. By Pranab Kumar Das - 10/16/2016 2:38:01 AM



  • Unacceptable. By Basheer Ahmed - 10/16/2016 2:37:28 AM



  •  Read Quran you will stop this nonsense By Zamiruddin - 10/16/2016 2:37:01 AM



  • @Sultan Sir Right. 
    That's the question in every one's mind.
    By Rajeev Shyam Sharma - 10/16/2016 2:29:48 AM



  • GM sb, I couldn't precisely get your point in referring to verse 49:13. I think that verse beautifully explains the diversity and commands us to respect diversity. In Islamic civilization different nationalities are accepted on equal footing and I might see this as the precursor of UN characteristic. Unlike the Hinduva or Western ideologies  of  steamrolling all cultural differences Islam is remarkably amenable to diversity. Islam limits itself to only a small area of human life which relates to human conduct on humanitarian issues and in that limited area it seeks to establish universal standards cutting  across party lines. I think this is a noble ideal and has remained a utopian dream of unity of mankind. I further think, this arises out of love. But there are two game-spoilers. One, the idiots who take up the cause of Islam with the idiocy that is their hallmark. The second are those who would lose their privileged positions which have come to them by the law of chance. Man in his generic sense has been tasked by God to reverse the results of this law of chance, wherein (in doing so) lies the ultimate good, and in Abrahimic religions this is seen as God's deliberate design and not as the default  result of the tug-of-war between warring gods. By Manzurul Haque - 10/16/2016 2:26:50 AM



  • Who is Sultan Shahin? What is his education & background ? By Sarshaar Mustafa - 10/16/2016 2:24:56 AM



  • The nature of a family is nature of Islam
    Where members fights with each other but after some time eats in a plate
    By Shandar Rizvi - 10/16/2016 2:20:09 AM



  • @Ibn E Makhmoor I appreciate all the fatvas against terrorism but are they being implemented in spirit.
    As per my reading, first call for Jehad was made by one afghan warlord against British supported afghan leader for throne.
    By Bharat Kumar - 10/16/2016 1:52:15 AM



  • There is 600 page Fatwa on Terrorism and suicide bombings authored by Dr Mohhammad Tahir Ul Qadri... I recommend everyone to read that to understand the right concept of jihad in Islam. By Ibn E Makhmoor - 10/16/2016 1:49:29 AM



  • @Mohammed Shafi Don't you think the terrorist follow Islam interpreted for them by some Persian scholar. 
    If one has brain to apply logic, he would definitely find positives in region but point is that one must be allowed to use logic.
    By Bharat Kumar - 10/16/2016 1:29:14 AM



  • Please find some Verses of the Quran dealing with Hatred, bloodshed, unnatural punishment , gender inequality, and other negative aspects. My Quran don't seem to have them.May you ste using a different Quran than what the Muslims use. Try using our Quran, the Muslims one not the Challenges or Jewish publications. Feel sorry for you, you really wasted your time. Allah is good and Loves the doer of good. By Mohammed Shafi - 10/16/2016 1:18:30 AM



  • "Ask anyone in the world which religion promotes sex, violence and terrorism and see what response you get. There are number of verses in Quran which are objectionable and against the humanity." Sadro Ddaoputt.
    The Bible implicitly encourages sex between daughters and their biological fathers and have children. The Quran is influenced by the Bible and it, too, encourages this repulsive and obnoxious act between sons and mothers, and, daughters and their fathers. In short, this applies to any woman who is under the protection and economic support of any man!
    By Mohammad Asghar - 10/16/2016 1:16:36 AM



  • Haquesaab,

    But the Quran says, "We have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that ye may know one another." (49:13)

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/16/2016 1:15:43 AM



  • Met you years back at Jangpura ... Was it in early eighties ... You have really researched your subject well By Vinod Kapoor - 10/16/2016 1:05:01 AM



  • Mohammed was a war lord.. it is all decdribed in detail in the Quoran.... and the word Jihad is in 120 different verses in the Quoran By Robert Willem Gorter - 10/16/2016 12:58:13 AM




  • @Sultan Shahin. Sir, I don't want to touch the topic of Islamic terrorism/Jihad here. I just want to ask you why there is communal tension & violence wherever there are Muslims in sizeable numbers? How many riots took place between Hindus & Muslims after Independence in India & Pakistan? In the recent years there has been serious communal clashes in various parts of India, why? Since the last few days there has been planned rioting going on in West Bengal by the Muslims in Malda district & Nadia district. Muslims organized riots have become part & parcel of daily life in West Bengal. Myanmar, Thailand, Russia, Philippines, Europe, Nigeria, etc are experiencing PEACE (Violence) of Islam why? Be it Azad Maidan, Muzzafarnagar, Meerut, Assam & elsewere, Muslims have staged well organized riots. Who are they Muslim Public or Hardcore Jihadis? Since the last three days serious communal clashes going on in Kharagpur, West Bengal. Who are they ? Let me tell you they are not armed jihadis but they are ordinary Muslim peoples who believe in one book called Koran, which prescribes violence against Kuffars.
    Islamic Terrorism & Violence is not about the hijacking of peaceful Islam by Muslims but it's about the hijacking of peaceful Islam by Muslims.
    By San Jay - 10/16/2016 12:57:42 AM



  • Problem is not with islam or Koran.
    So many factors are involved which drove
    Muslim youth to terror.
    By Showket Ali - 10/16/2016 12:55:06 AM



  • All entries by the NewAge Islam are"sponsored".Hence no comments or likes.

    By Ibrahim Rungla - 10/16/2016 12:51:00 AM



  •  NICe By Nikhil VasuDev - 10/16/2016 12:49:43 AM



  • Venugopal Bhat , Ravi Kumar , Charming Biswas , Swapan Purkayastha Moni , Shafeeq Mohammad , Rahul Rao , Mr Venogopal when manuvadies can consider varna as divine ordered and discriminate on this ground then why bother about others. every one believes that their religious book is divine and GOD given. Hindus believe in divinity of vedas and geeta, chriatians believe in Bible being divine. so what is wrong if Muslims think likewise. Atheism is a good ideal popular among elites nowadays . But people who are themselves religious should not preach atheism to others. By Dolly Passey - 10/16/2016 12:49:22 AM



  • मुस्लिम मजहब एक इस्लामी गैंग है ।
    इस्लाम में अक्ल का दखल, इंसानियत, और रहम करना हराम है ।
    By Subhash Malhotra - 10/16/2016 12:46:59 AM



  • I think the writer is ignorant of Islamic history particularly the period of ist khalfa to Muawiya By Mohammad Qazim - 10/16/2016 12:46:24 AM



  • O Allaha lead all in right way. By Khageswar Das - 10/16/2016 12:42:56 AM



  • In fact, instead of assimilating the people like a garland, the religions have divided the communities in various sects like Islam, Hinduism, Sikhism and Christianity. We have become intolerant to the other religions and many communal riots occur on religious matters. By Premnath Angurala - 10/16/2016 12:41:22 AM



  • You must be kidding..
    When you dont know islam dont try to modify it by own..
    What you think is not islam..
    Obviously you are ill and confused.
    By Ishfaq Ahmad - 10/16/2016 12:40:47 AM



  • Self proclaimed representative of every sect are responsible for discrimination and domination. The so called Brokers of religions running their shops on the name of religion and that's the reasons for so many sect if religion. By Indrajeet Singh - 10/16/2016 12:38:15 AM



  • The quality to bear evils and hear even to your critics is an essential element needed to be inculcated. The writing of last century could not decide the lives of coming decades. Accept science and being logical is the requirements of time. The science is opening every myth decoding every false with logic that in coming years there won't be any doubt on identities of human lives. By Ajay Jha - 10/16/2016 12:37:50 AM



  • If you cann't accept your wrong deed then you must be fell down. Problem is not Islam , problem is not acceptance of sin. By Susil Pati - 10/16/2016 12:35:43 AM



  • I fully subscribe to the views of Mr. Faruki, and extend his arguments not only for Islam but all religions of the world. There are grey areas along with bright areas in almost all religions which should be done away with by the respective followers as these are detrimental to the well being of the society at large. By Ranjit Kumar - 10/16/2016 12:26:02 AM



  • Agree By Santosh Vishwakarma - 10/16/2016 12:20:44 AM



  • The rabid comments of the people who profess to be muslim do great disservice to their religion and community. Come on grow up maintain some decorum and learn to respect the opinion of others even if u dont agree. It is actually people with such extreme views who are the biggest enemies of Islam By Biswadeep Das - 10/16/2016 12:20:23 AM



  •  It's very unfortunate that the Holy Qu'ran as well as the leadership of the Muslim community consistently legitimize coercion/domination/subordination by way of terror. I appreciate your courage amidst all odds ... I never could understand the Muslim nationalism with khilafa, shari'a and hijab but as I sit with multiple articles and ask scores of sane Muslims around, it is clear that Islamism is a legitimate aspect of Islam. The earlier the admission, the sooner the way out ... By Deepa Natarajan - 10/16/2016 12:15:36 AM



  • Areee u request to all muslims brothers and sisters ignore this idiot post he is an agent of RSS By Shafeeq Mohammad - 10/16/2016 12:10:59 AM



  •  Sir, I respect you for your thoughts. I wish more n, more people understand the true meaning of Islam. Its a great religion if people can understand the context of Quran writings and not use them to mislead people. By Ashish Kulshreshtha - 10/16/2016 12:05:58 AM



  •  Exactly what I mean. By Indrajeet Singh - 10/16/2016 12:04:13 AM



  • @Indrajeet Singh These Custodians of religions create hatred to support their stomachs so that their customers grow to donate more to the establishment of Temple, Church and Mosque. By Swapan Purkayastha Moni - 10/16/2016 12:00:52 AM



  • *Islam as 'their' spiritual fountain. By Manzurul Haque - 10/15/2016 11:19:12 PM



  • Naseersaab says, "The verse means that in times of danger or war choose your friends and helpers well."

    That would be quite an appropriate thing to say for a military commander or a political leader. But God is the one who created Christians, Jews, Muslims and atheists, all of whom live because of his mercy. Do you really see much maturity in your arguments?

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/15/2016 3:08:01 PM



  • Janab Ghulam Mohiyuddin sb. No, you do not have to read verse 5.51, especially if by chance your wife is a Christian or  a Jew. Because then you will have to do hard reading to explain her the contextuality of the verse, but worse still would be to clear  the concept of 'wali'. White races lump up everything under 'friend', so wali as some sort of spiritual campanion/guide will bypass their intellect. And of course Islam encourages them also to seek spiritual companionship within themselves. This is a fair and reciprocal arrangement. Now I understand why pristine Muslim families discourage cultural amalgamation. The danger of picking up wali from the other side is always there. You can ask me, what is the harm? My anwer is, I would rather like to guard my spiritual orientation, with a counter question, what is the harm in guarding something that I want to guard without harming anybody? I am rather grateful to God for not having 'forgotten to write' verse 5.51, else someone like you would have pressured me to abdicate my right of not choosing my spiritual gruru from a group that does not accept Islam as his spiritual fountain. Finally about younger generation, please just do not worry. They are far more intelligent than you or me. You can check up this with your nephews. By Manzurul Haque - 10/15/2016 2:39:42 PM



  • Nothing is sacrosanct if it discriminate on any ground among human. Every body is born with potentiality to become tree of humanity like Krishna,Rama, Buddha,Mahavira. Christ, Mohammed, Lao Tzu etc but Priests, Mullahs , Popes etc conspired to teach us they are special one and normal human can only worship them to establish their hegemony. By Indrajeet Singh - 10/15/2016 8:27:28 AM



  • IN ISLAM TERRORISM MEANS PEACE By Arjun Chandra Paul - 10/15/2016 8:17:44 AM



  • (Abusive word deleted.....Editor)
    paid bapus like you may get likes in social media from namesake and Islam haters
    in reality you won't even find dog attending your sermons
    By Ishtiaque Ahmed - 10/15/2016 8:16:59 AM



  • Well said Dear By Anil Kumar Chaudhary - 10/15/2016 8:10:59 AM



  • Intresting By Syed Arif Abbas Abdi - 10/15/2016 8:07:48 AM



  • Well said .. By Sanjay Sharda Prasad Upadhyay - 10/15/2016 8:07:17 AM



  • The verse means that in times of danger or war choose your friends and helpers well.

    Nobody except God could have guided the insignificant number of Muslims through all the pitfalls and dangers to eventual success against heavy odds. Who else except God could have kept the Muslims a step ahead of all those who were planning against them including the hypocrites among the Muslims?

    There are sufficient verses in praise of the good Christians and the good Jews. There is no stereotyping for all of them or for all times.

    The Quran is for people who have maturity and if the educated among the Muslims do not have it then no wonder the young are misguided.

    If a good Christian or Jew reads those verses, he will not think that these are uncalled for.
    By Naseer Ahmed - 10/15/2016 4:31:04 AM



  • Naseersaab,

    The question still remains, could God Almighty have written  5:51? Do we still have to read it? What effect would it have on the young who are very impressionable?

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/15/2016 3:15:49 AM



  • GM Sb,

    The following verses mean exactly what they say. The context is also made clear. It applies to the people of the Prophet's times for the behavior they exhibited which is described in the verses. 

    (5:48) To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute;

    (49) And this (He commands): Judge thou between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they beguile thee from any of that (teaching) which Allah hath sent down to thee. And if they turn away, be assured that for some of their crime it is Allah´s purpose to punish them. And truly most men are rebellious.

    (50) Do they then seek after a judgment of (the days of) ignorance? But who, for a people whose faith is assured, can give better judgment than Allah?

    (51) O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

    (52) Those in whose hearts is a disease - thou seest how eagerly they run about amongst them, saying: "We do fear lest a change of fortune bring us disaster." Ah! perhaps Allah will give (thee) victory, or a decision according to His will. Then will they repent of the thoughts which they secretly harboured in their hearts.

    (53) And those who believe will say: "Are these the men who swore their strongest oaths by Allah, that they were with you?" All that they do will be in vain, and they will fall into (nothing but) ruin.

    Verses 52 and 53 make clear why they are not to be trusted and events proved it right.


    (54) O ye who believe! if any from among you turn back from his Faith, soon will Allah produce a people whom He will love as they will love Him,- lowly with the believers, mighty against the rejecters, fighting in the way of Allah, and never afraid of the reproaches of such as find fault. That is the grace of Allah, which He will bestow on whom He pleaseth. And Allah encompasseth all, and He knoweth all things.

    (55) Your (real) friends are (no less than) Allah, His Messenger, and the (fellowship of) believers,- those who establish regular prayers and regular charity, and they bow down humbly (in worship).

    (56) As to those who turn (for friendship) to Allah, His Messenger, and the (fellowship of) believers,- it is the fellowship of Allah that must certainly triumph.

    (57) O ye who believe! take not for friends and protectors those who take your religion for a mockery or sport,- whether among those who received the Scripture before you, or among those who reject Faith; but fear ye Allah, if ye have faith (indeed).

    (58) When ye proclaim your call to prayer they take it (but) as mockery and sport; that is because they are a people without understanding.

    (59) Say: "O people of the Book! Do ye disapprove of us for no other reason than that we believe in Allah, and the revelation that hath come to us and that which came before (us), and (perhaps) that most of you are rebellious and disobedient?"

    (60) Say: "Shall I point out to you something much worse than this, (as judged) by the treatment it received from Allah? those who incurred the curse of Allah and His wrath, those of whom some He transformed into apes and swine, those who worshipped evil;- these are (many times) worse in rank, and far more astray from the even path!"

    (61) When they come to thee, they say: "We believe": but in fact they enter with a mind against Faith, and they go out with the same but Allah knoweth fully all that they hide.

    (62) Many of them dost thou see, racing each other in sin and rancour, and their eating of things forbidden. Evil indeed are the things that they do.

    (63) Why do not the rabbis and the doctors of Law forbid them from their (habit of) uttering sinful words and eating things forbidden? Evil indeed are their works.

    (64) The Jews say: "Allah´s hand is tied up." Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for the (blasphemy) they utter. Nay, both His hands are widely outstretched: He giveth and spendeth (of His bounty) as He pleaseth. But the revelation that cometh to thee from Allah increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. Amongst them we have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Judgment. Every time they kindle the fire of war, Allah doth extinguish it; but they (ever) strive to do mischief on earth. And Allah loveth not those who do mischief.

    (65) If only the People of the Book had believed and been righteous, We should indeed have blotted out their iniquities and admitted them to gardens of bliss.

    (66) If only they had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course: but many of them follow a course that is evil.

    (67) O Messenger! proclaim the (message) which hath been sent to thee from thy Lord. If thou didst not, thou wouldst not have fulfilled and proclaimed His mission. And Allah will defend thee from men (who mean mischief). For Allah guideth not those who reject Faith.

    (68) Say: "O People of the Book! ye have no ground to stand upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that has come to you from your Lord." It is the revelation that cometh to thee from thy Lord, that increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. But sorrow thou not over (these) people without Faith.

    (69) Those who believe (in the Qur´an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

    (70) We took the covenant of the Children of Israel and sent them messengers, every time, there came to them a messenger with what they themselves desired not - some (of these) they called impostors, and some they (go so far as to) slay.

    (71) They thought there would be no trial (or punishment); so they became blind and deaf; yet Allah (in mercy) turned to them; yet again many of them became blind and deaf. But Allah sees well all that they do.


    Verses 65 to 72 are verses of mercy and hope and showing that Allah forgives even such people again and again and is ever ready to reward them for any good that they do.

    By Naseer Ahmed - 10/15/2016 2:13:23 AM



  • Sadoro Ddaoputt. What is the degree of your illiteracy? By Manzurul Haque - 10/15/2016 1:56:24 AM



  • Origin of hatred, intolerance, terrors, plunder and murders lies in the Quran. Try, just forsake Quran and see how peace returns back on mother earth. Quran or Islam was meant for people of low or no intellect of Mecca, Madina and some parts of Yemen. Those uncivilized dos and donts were meant for that time and place which has no place in modern world.
    Collect all copies of Quran whether hard copies or CDs or DVDs, send them back to Saudi Arabia. Let the peace return.
    By Sadoro Ddaoputt - 10/15/2016 1:10:52 AM



  • Naseem Ahmed sb has asked Mr. Shahin some pertinent questions which the latter shall probably never reply. 

    By publishing, Mr. Shahin has however proved his credentials as an editor. I can bet he will publish anything said against him , anything! I realized this, much early, so I rather took up his challenge of expressing my viewpoint.

    Came along our way, many  a professional anonymous abuser of Islam, but we did not lose our cool. I don't know if any lesson was learnt by our folks, but at least I am sure the greatest weapon today to deal with your enemy is the art of communication. This art can be developed with practice and hard work. The biggest use of this weapon has been made by Mr. Naseer Ahmed which I acknowledge  with gratitude and appreciation. Mr Mohiyuddin sb with his consistent comments has provided us a side view of the limits of an underformed liberal Muslim perspective which helped us in advancing our arguments. CI don't know why Muhammad Yunus sb is not coming forth, because some of his writings carried great insights and were very useful for the community. I hope minor differences of opinion do not deflect us from our major common concerns. I also hope that  we are conscious of the great scarcity of communicators from Islam's side today - I mean communicators of the right kind who can win us debate against effective onslaughts of real enemies who have the capacity to uproot Islam. On the other hand we Muslims have no dearth of energy-wasters.

    Our own limitation is visible on Indian TV channels which  regularly telecast fulminations of the bearded and scullcapped Muslim spokespersons as the ultimate expression of the community.
    By Manzurul Haque - 10/15/2016 1:02:57 AM



  • The views of Humanist are logical, constructive and comprehensive which I fully support. I would like to work for the goal Humanist has suggested in his last lines. That is the only option available to us. By Manzurul Haque - 10/14/2016 11:34:43 PM



  • Naseersaab says, "You may establish the truth of what you contend through literalism."

    Literal reading of 5:51 does not help me establish any truth. Preceding and succeeding verses do not help.

    A true understanding of Islam on the other hand is conveyed by 49:13:  "O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you."

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/14/2016 12:51:15 PM



  • For the sake of my argument, take the world as it exists today and suppose for a moment that there are no 'religions'.
     For all the progress in the last few centuries, a perceptive observer will notice the following:
    Poverty, inequality, consumerism, terrorism, weapons capable of mass annihilation, rapid technological progress rendering human labour redundant, global temperature rise with unimaginable ecological consequences, etc.
         At the same time, the observer will notice that scientists themselves realise that science has its limits. It will never be able to solve the mystery of life, nor explain its infinite variety, nor replicate the design of the universe, nor comprehend the complexity of human nature. In other words, a sense of awe and wonder and humility despite remarkable scientific progress.
    Enter now a man of great wisdom and extraordinary gifts such as Buddha or Jesus or Mohammed. What would he do after seeing such a world?
    He would advocate peace. He would urge people to shun violence and  resolve their differences through dialogue and give-and-take.
    He would urge the rich to donate their wealth for uplift of the poor. He would urge restraint on acquisition of material goods and consumption to limit the harm being done to the environment. He would urge humility and acknowledge the insignificance of man. He would warn that ignoring these sensible policies will result in extinction of human race - Apocalypse.
    Suppose all this is said in compelling language with appropriate metaphor and fable. Suppose that some similar-minded men and women join him and spread the message in ringing tones and melodious music. A new 'religion' is then born.
    Shouldn't all existing religions be 'reformed' to convey this new message which is urgent, relevant to the present times and universally applicable?  

    By A Humanist - 10/14/2016 12:36:54 PM



  • Sultan Shahin Sahab everybody knows why you have a chip on your shoulder  and Phobic about present state of Islam. Having said this I want to ask you who you think is peaceful ? US ? CIA ? US War Machine?Bush? Blair? Britain ?  RSS ? Why West is interested in seeing poor Afghan women who are no threat to anyone to take off and throw away their Burqas ? How on earth Afghan women's Burqas are a threat to US or West ? Why it matters to them what Afghan women wears. It should not. Spending Trillions in waging wars of deception against Muslim Countries based on lies killing un concerned millions in the name of liberating, human right  and bringing in democracies is neither their right nor an invitation to Peace. If you are fair you know who started violence first and for what ? You are neither ignorant nor uninformed and you know who started violence ? How could anyone see millions innocents killed countries destroyed and not do anything ? If certain Muslims have taken up arms to fight that is the only way they have to retaliate for their loss. And FYI the arms they get to fight to create violence is given to them by those who manufacture arms and who want to perpetuate violence and wars and you know it is Oil & War business ? Your stance against Islam in general just because of few who are fighting against injustice, against occupation of their lands,their countries, against exploitation of their resources is unfair, predudicial and wanton. Everybody knows why you do it. What you do it the greatest disservice to Islam  if you call yourself a Muslim. It is another thing if you are not a Muslim. Publish this comment if you want to know what others think about stand against Islam.
    Thank You
    By Naseem Ahmed - 10/14/2016 12:22:34 PM



  • GM Sb,

    You may establish the truth of what you contend through literalism.
    You don't even know what you are talking about. Take your shot at literalism and prove your point without ignoring the preceding and succeeding verses.
    By Naseer Ahmed - 10/14/2016 7:00:57 AM



  • Naseersaab says his articles "are based on an analysis of data and evidence."

    Your confidence in your analysis is overblown. You read more in the data than is warranted and reach  wrong conclusions.

    You claim that I " criticise the Quran without establishing the truth of what he contends?"

    I do not criticize the Quran. I sometimes question whether certain verses got there because of over-inclusion. I am against literalism and try to find and follow the true spirit of Islam. I consider Islam to be a liberating rather than an enslaving religion.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/14/2016 2:50:40 AM



  • GM Sb,

    None of my articles are based on the opinion of others or my own opinions. These are based on an analysis of data and evidence. I don't write opinion pieces.

    You are the one who is completely impervious to all reason, data and analysis and extremely opinionated. Who else but an extremely opinionated person would criticise the Quran without establishing the truth of what he contends?  And you think that is freedom? You don't even know the meaning of freedom. It is only a person who is moral who is free. The rest are slaves of whatever agenda they serve.

    By Naseer Ahmed - 10/14/2016 12:08:00 AM



  • Naseersaab,

    Your intolerance to any interpretation other than your own is somewhat fascistic. You do this in spite of the fact that I have several times pointed out to you that you take the wrong meaning both from the Quran and from the philosophers whom you are so fond of quoting. You seem to take the meaning you want to take whether that was the intended meaning or not.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/13/2016 2:25:30 PM



  • Jihadists have no fear of Allah and their minds are twisted in a manner to follow their desire to get arms in hand and use them against any innocent people to annihilate them without considering what they are sending for the here in after. This is total madness created by the financing of the treacherous oils producing states to promote their skewed ideology among Muslims. Indeed these are the agents of shytan who made it very attractive to the mindless young people jumping like crickets around before the rain that kills their eggs too.

    By Qaseem - 10/13/2016 1:04:34 PM



  • I think making varna convertible will be a game changer in india . let RSS start . RSS should promote upgrade some of their sc st obc cadres to the higher varna of brahmin kshatriyas By Dolly Passey - 10/13/2016 12:48:19 PM



  • A very good article on need for reform in Islam and Quran By Atul Bhandari - 10/13/2016 11:10:08 AM



  • sirjee we need more good speakers - mentors - where is the wrong - which factors influencing - Religious management which will Holy Quran to common citizen - Do s - Dont's with spritiual to be guided. What reason so many refugees Africa to Europe - What reasons unrest - even sunni - shiya in Iran - Iraq - Pakistan - Gulf etc. Poverty - Education - population - livelyhood to be studied and taken care alongwith transfermational changes. Regards and Interested on Religious Management in every religion to balance conflicts and develop more spritual path. By Kolipaka Sudeep Kumar - 10/13/2016 11:08:52 AM



  • GM Sb,
    You behave as if you are living in an Orwellian world and maybe you are. Your are completely immune to reason which shows that you are not a free man but a slave of something and what that is you know better.
    By Naseer Ahmed - 10/13/2016 4:36:36 AM



  • If Naseersaab is going to determine what is responsible speech and what is irresponsible speech we would all be living in an Orwellian world!

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/13/2016 1:10:00 AM



  • Haaaaaaaaa haaaaaaa tumhari in bewaqufi aur be sarpair ki baton ka koi jwab nahi dega.Tumhari dalali bhi band ho jayegi kyuki musalman tumko koi response nahi dega.

    By Mohd Yunus - 10/12/2016 8:40:40 PM



  • GM Sb cannot distinguish between free speech and irresponsible speech.  By Naseer Ahmed - 10/12/2016 12:52:46 PM



  • My dear secular logic, thanks for your rear guard kick.

    By time we put zina etc in the dustbin of history, 
     All of you, would have gone doggy. 

    No matter what we do, we will have to catch-up with you! 

    The possibility of our  innovation, 
    can never surpass your ability to further corruption !
    By Manzurul Haque - 10/12/2016 11:46:29 AM



  • Naseersaab's arrogant attempts to suppress free speech, although typical of his ilk, do not deserve any reply.
    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/12/2016 11:38:03 AM



  • The great Islamic scholars: Can anybody enrich my knowledge by pointing out the verses which promote love, righteousness, justice, equality, peace, pluralism, nonviolence, rationalism and compassion and on the other hand, the verses which promote hate, intolerance, violence, war, cruel & unusual punishments, gender inequality, discrimination on religious grounds, exclusiveness and supremacism etc ?  By Raihan Nezami - 10/12/2016 4:03:57 AM



  • Or better yet, abrogate the offensive verses, and unabrogate the peaceful ones. 

    Just reformulate the religion to suit our times and moral evolution. Put all the junk about kafirs and jihad and zina and blasphemy and apostasy and homophobia and misogny and sex slavery and triple talaq and polygamy and dhimmi and jizya where it belongs: In the dustbin of history.

    Only massive editing of the Quran as well as the affiliated theology can redeem the faith and its followers. 
    By secularlogic - 10/12/2016 3:57:55 AM



  • First is to get your understanding of the Quran right. How can we become vicegerents of God on earth without understanding the Book?

    GM Sb, the less you talk about the Quran the better. Make efforts to read and understand first and ask questions to clear your doubts. Becoming judgmental with such a shallow knowledge does not serve any purpose. It only shows you up as a foolhardy ignoramus.
    By Naseer Ahmed - 10/12/2016 12:14:37 AM



  • Well as to the headline, the answer may perhaps be that the history of Islam is somewhat like the history of UN.

    Quran uncreated looks like a contradiction, perhaps a better statement even from a Muslim viewpoint would be that as Word of God, Quran is most sacred creation.

    Instead of digging into past literature and Islamic theology, we should focus on things new. The recommendations of Mr Ashok Sharma seem more appropriate.

    The theological reforms suggested by Mr Naseer Ahmed could be slowly internalized( haven't gone through the entire list). 

    But the ultimate battle will have have to be fought by the Muslims in the vast area that has been left free by the Creator for human innovation. A less creative mind is like an unruly pet dog who pounces on his own master. I can cite the great names of Salman Rushdie and Mustafa Kamal Pasha. In this category. While I also have examples of greater creative minds - like Rabindranath Tagore, Aurobindo Ghosh, Swamy Vivekananda, etc.  The movie PK, astoundingly demolishes so much around us, in one go, but it reinforces the one idea of a universal Creator. Even OMG was in this genre. The atheists were resoundingly rebuffed without a debate, in Avataar, by the non-interventionist character of Iova. Yet He intervened on the rarest moment. Another movie The  Castaway, most artistically suggests the presence of hidden Deity that works in curious and enigmatic ways (extremely interesting nevertheless).

    My question is, can a believing and practising Muslim ever reach these heights of positive creativity, because at least I see no contradiction between these works and the core of Islam?

    One does not have to make a statement/story about Islam everytine. Isn't that an obsession?
    By Manzurul Haque - 10/11/2016 11:54:46 PM



  • Concepts such as "uncreatedness" of the Quran are relics from our obscurantist past. For modern Muslims pursuit of righteousness is the essence of the Quran and only those passages in the Quran which promote love, righteousness, justice, equality, peace, pluralism, nonviolence, rationalism and compassion are truly inspired and of universal and eternal significance.

    Any verses that promote hate, intolerance, violence, war, cruel & unusual punishments, gender inequality, discrimination on religious grounds, exclusiveness and supremacism are not truly Islamic and should be consigned to footnotes. Since Hadiths are not our holy books, they are not binding on us.

    Since no more prophets will be coming to guide us it is incumbent upon us to take our duties as "Vicegerents of God" seriously.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/11/2016 12:57:47 PM



  • Good to see NewAgeIslam.com identified as a "Progressive Islamic website". Such identification will be reassuring to those who feared an Islamophobic takeover By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/11/2016 12:37:39 PM



  • Easy availability of rational literature in simple language, universal secular education and emphasis on liberal approach in mass media should be encouraged. Extreme and supremacist ideologies will have to be countered through education and social activism. Otherwise, these will become an existential threat to the modern civilization and may even lead to disastrous consequences including almost extinction of the human race. We should not under-estimate the impact of such ideologies. We have already seen it in the Second World War. Religions should not be treated as sacrosanct. There is no independent proof of their universality except the self declarations contained therein. Forceful involuntary imposition of any ancient or, medieval texts is against the modern notion of civil liberties and human rights.  By Ashok Sharma - 10/11/2016 11:29:23 AM



  • It is the Islamic theology based on the ahadith that is corrupted and needs to be cleaned up. I have covered every subject on the basis of a very detailed discussion of all the relevant verses from the Quran. The Quran does not teach intolerance or xenophobia. Please read:

    A Complete Agenda for Reform in Islamic Theology

     

    No verse of the Quran is abrogated. No verse from the Quran contradicts another verse from the Quran let alone the Medinian Quran teaching anything different from the Meccan Quran. The message of the Quran is a seamless continuity.

    To get an idea of how the ahadith corrupt the message of the Quran and have lead to corruption of Islamic theology, read:

    The Ahadith That Distort The Message Of The Quran - Part I

    The Ahadith That Distort The Message Of The Quran – Part Two

    By Naseer Ahmed - 10/11/2016 8:53:33 AM