Naseer Saheb, now what will you say? WIill you please condemn the detention of Hazrat Nizamuddin Dargah's Nazim Ali Nizami, and his brother in Pakistan?
For a decade in Pakistan, many Sufi lovers in Pakistan have been systematically targeted and killed. Pir Rakhel Shah of Fatehpur was attacked. This was followed by a litany of such incidents at Data Darbar in Lahore, Abdullah Shah Ghazi in Karachi, Baba Farid’s dargah in Pakpattan, Sakhi Sarwar in Dera Ghazi Khan, Dargah Ghulam Shah Ghazi in Maari, Baba Nangay Shah's shrine in capital Islamabad and Shah Norani shrine in Khuzdar besides the killing of Sufi singer Amjad Sabri.Pakistan admits detaining Indian clerics over suspected movement, India rubbishes claims of 'unauthorised visit'.
You are speaking through your hat now! You say
"we are talking about islam being accepted willingly or unwillingly".
The Quran makes no reference to people accepting Islam willingly or
unwillingly! When you said “the Holy Qur'an uses the
phrase "willingly or unwillingly", which in itself is proof that it
is inconsistent”, I was under the impression that you are aware of the verse
where the Quran uses this expression. It is clear that you are not and were
shooting in the dark or mixing up things. The following is the relevant
verse very much connected with physics and the creation of the universe.
(41:11) Moreover He comprehended in His
design the sky, and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the earth:
"Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly." They said: "We do
come (together), in willing obedience."
The logical validity of an argument is a function of its internal
consistency, not the truth value of its premises. An argument can
therefore be logically infallible even if based on a false premise. The error
in such a situation is not a logical fallacy but is weak on the facts
In an argument, therefore, one can either show the premise on which the
conclusion is based to be not true on facts (factual error) or show that the
conclusion drawn does not necessarily follow from the premise. This would be
the case when the facts considered are either insufficient or irrelevant to the
conclusion drawn even if the facts considered are deemed to be true.
An argument can be found fault with on facts or logic or both. One would
very simply say “Your argument is based on false premises” or “The conclusions
that you have drawn do not necessarily follow from your premises” or “Your
argument is false on its premises and the conclusion that you have drawn is logically invalid even if the premises on which you have based it were true”.
I am afraid that even the revised statement "logical fallacies
can be pointed out to defeat faulty syllogism" is meaningless. A logical
fallacy is simply the drawing of illogical conclusions (even when the premises
are considered true). A false syllogism
on the other hand maybe logically infallible but based on a false premise. It
is based on a falsehood. Logic is a very precise subject and it is best to
avoid muddle headed thinking while discussing the subject.
I think these Taliban are products of this textbooks.Have probably not read the Madina Charter!u
The Taliban indoctrinates kids with jihadist textbooks paid for by the U.S.