would Satan or his follower behave when frustrated in his attack on the Quran
to prove that not all its verses are the word of Allah? We know from the way GM
sb is behaving.
is the delusional moron for thinking:
1. That he
is wiser and more merciful than Allah
2. That verse
24:2 is pagan Arab law inserted into the Quran by humans and that Allah was powerless
to preserve the textual authenticity and accuracy of His Last Testament.
3. That Allah’s promises in the Quran that none
can change his Word is either a false promise or the promise of a God who is powerless to
4. That his stupid prescription to decriminalize
adultery but treat it as a sin against God to be punished in the Hereafter is
better! How stupid this is having been explained in my comment By Naseer Ahmed - 11/5/2018
That those who believe in 24:2 should have opposed the SC decriminalizing
adultery. This is fully answered in my comment By Naseer Ahmed - 11/10/2018 11:13:34 PM
Can the old fool point out which question of his
has not been comprehensively answered? It is he who is the deceiving liar frustrated
in his attempt to show that the Quran is not the Word of God.
The old fool completely misses the beautiful lesson from the story that
even though the punishment is prescribed, the people must desist from bringing
charges (casting stones in the parable) against the sinners which is brought to
perfection in the Quran when it discourages people from bringing charges
against other people even if these are true.
Allah’s Mercy encompasses even his hudud laws. For a detailed exposition
read my comment:By Naseer Ahmed - 11/5/2018 11:44:55 PM
You are an ignorant old fool with little understanding. What I am
writing below is what I have said before, but it went over your head.
For an individual Muslim, following the Quranic law on adultery means
not committing adultery. The Indian law does not compel Muslims to commit
adultery. I hope you understand this much at least.
The Quranic law on adultery did not apply to any other community except
the Muslims. The polytheists were never punished for adultery since this is not
a crime for them. On the other hand, an adulterous Muslim while being forbidden
from marrying any non-adulterous person from communities in which adultery is
forbidden, could marry a polytheist Arab only because adultery was common and an
acceptable practice in that community. Following Islam does not require
imposing its laws on other communities.
Jesus (pbuh) is an example of a prophet who did not contravene the
prevailing Roman Law when a prostitute was brought before him for judgment by
mischievous people who wanted to test him. If he pronounced the judgment
according to the Mosaic Law, he would have run afoul of the Roman Law and if he
didn’t, the people could accuse him of being a false prophet. He simply asked
the one who had never sinned to cast the first stone. He therefore passed the
judgment of stoning in accordance with the Mosaic Law and yet ensured that it
was not carried out. This lesson is taken to perfection in the Quran.
First, the Prophet himself, when people of other communities came to him
for judgment, judged them by their own laws and not by Quranic laws. The lesson
from this and from the example of Jesus is even though you may be a Muslim
judge, you will judge by the prevailing law.
Just like Jesus (pbuh) gave a lesson to the accusers that they should
not be quick to accuse and judge other people, the Quran also discourages
people from bringing charges against other people even if these are true. Allah’s
Mercy encompasses even his hudud laws. As an individual therefore, it is not my duty to ensure the punishment of people according to any law. I need to only ensure that I live by the tenets of my religion in my private life. Even if I was a ruler, I cannot implement Quranic laws on people who do not believe in the Quran.
Let alone taking the best meaning, GM sb cannot
even accept the best meaning when explained. Based on the worst meaning that a
bigot can take, GM sb rejects verse 24:2 and recommends decriminalizing adultery
but says that it is a sin punishable by Allah on the Day of Judgment. How does
that help? Does it promote a society free of the evil? Will there be more acts
of adultery or less if adultery is decriminalized? If more commit adultery,
then more people will be punished on the Day of Judgment. Will the punishment
on the Day of Judgment be lighter or more severe than the punishment prescribed
in this world? What has GM sb through his “wisdom” achieved? A society such as
the one in the west where adultery is common, break-up of marriages become
common, children suffer, there is great mental stress and sickness and to top
it all more people are punished in the Hereafter! GM sb’s prescription is a
prescription for creating a hell on this earth and for sending more people to
Hell in the Hereafter!
Now compare the wisdom of the Quran with GM sb’s
The hudud laws are for building a good society in
which people can respect and trust each other. In the licentious West, marital
infidelities are a cause of general level of distrust and suspicion between
couples, psychological trauma when infidelity occurs, mental illness, and
break-up of marital relations. Such relationships cause misery not only the
affected couples but also to their children and the parents. It is a cause of
weaker marital bonds and unhappiness in the married life. Sexual relationships prior
to marriage are also a cause of forming weaker marital bonds, subsequent acts
of infidelity and break-ups.
Now consider the Quran’s prescription for it. Verse
24:2 is a great deterrent for all those who believe in Allah and the Day of
Judgment. Such people protect themselves from any situation that can lead to
adultery. If a marital partner commits adultery it only results in divorce. The
other partner need not and does not bring charges of adultery to get him/her
punished. While the Quran makes the punishment mandatory if the guilt is
established, at the same time, it also strongly discourages bringing the charge
of adultery even if it be true. While the law stands, the people are prevented
from bringing forward the charges.
No mortal can frame such a law in which the evil is
curbed without the need for the stray cases of adultery being brought for
punishment. A law framed by a mortal would have made self-confession mandatory
for a believer and bringing cases of adultery and providing testimony a virtue.
Every law of Allah is full of His infinite Wisdom
and Mercy. A corollary from this law is that you need not bring charges of
theft against a thief either but make him/her repent and mend ways. Allah
through his laws teaches His creation to become forgiving, merciful and
compassionate and overlook the faults of others, while providing effective
deterrents to be used only in extreme cases. The deterrents serve as a measure
of the seriousness and enormity of the offense to those who believe in Allah
and the Day of Judgment.
The wisdom of the Quran will be obvious to all
except to the deaf, dumb and blind. The society comprising the believers in
Allah and the Day of Judgment will be free from adultery without the necessity
of punishing anyone even when there are stray incidents of adultery. The
punishment comes in when the incidents become too many and beyond the tolerance
of the society in which case the ones guilty of flagrant violations are
punished to prevent their corrupting the rest of the society.
The difference between divine wisdom and sheer
stupidity of mortals is obvious and yet the mortal behaves as if he is wiser
and more merciful than Allah! GM sb is full of nonsense and a windbag.
“why people die in religions they were
born into and arguably earn damnation for choices they hardly make”
who die into the religions they were born into earn damnation? Does Allah not
provide a level playing field to all irrespective of the religion they are born
into? Does Allah Provide
A Level Playing Field To All The People?
“God and His Mercy can’t be defeated
and have the last word necessitating ultimate cooling of hell and its turning
to heaven and some sweetness in the terrors of hell.”
(11:106) Those who are wretched shall
be in the Fire: There will be for them therein (nothing but) the heaving of
sighs and sobs:
(107) They will dwell therein for all
the time that the heavens and the earth endure, except as thy Lord willeth:
for thy Lord is the (sure) accomplisher of what He planneth.
The sentence of Hell for all time is qualified
as thy Lord willeth” which means that it is not forever.
While one may let his fancy go wild, there is only one meaning of every verse of the Quran and only a single truth. Allah is what Allah is and not what we may imagine. There is no room for personal gods in Islam according to his/her fancy and every believer must strive to understand Allah by His unique Attributes through a study of the Quran.