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Islamic History

18 - COMMENTS

  • Hats Off has only two hats, one as a spreader of hate, the other as an exemplar of rudeness. By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 11/19/2018 1:43:36 PM



  • get back to where you belong. By hats off! - 11/19/2018 5:55:29 AM



  • Human aberrations like the ones Hats Off describes are present galore in several other religions but Islam seems to be the sole target of Hats Off's vicious hate prachar.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 11/18/2018 11:48:10 PM



  • The position that Islam takes is:

    (2:256) Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.

    The position that Muslim rulers and societies take may be a different matter. It would have served Islam better, if there had been more tolerance of proselytization by other religions and greater tolerance for apostasy. 

    Truth does not stand out clear from error for the Muslims themselves which is why they do not take the Quran seriously.
    By Naseer Ahmed - 11/18/2018 10:28:17 PM



  • does islam allow other religions to be preached in islamic countries?

    does islam allow its followers to convert to other religions?
    By hats off! - 11/18/2018 5:05:45 PM



  • Hats Off's blinkers make him ignorant of the fact that hatred and violence have been features of the human species and have less to do with religion than his hateful perceptions may suggest.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 11/18/2018 11:57:44 AM



  • The Quran doesn't teach hatred of other people. By Naseer Ahmed - 11/18/2018 7:14:57 AM



  • the Qur' an is a complete book for the members of the club of islam.

    but for idolaters, and polytheists it is a menace and a manual of gratuitous hatred and intolerance to ploytheism and idol worship.

    polytheists or idolaters need never be apologetic to a brutal monotheism. christianity included.
    By hats off! - 11/18/2018 5:43:33 AM



  • The Quran is a complete, self-sufficient, self-explanatory source of all instruction. It instructs through 

    1. recalling, remembering (zikr) the life of the prophets, 
    2.through example, comparison, similitude, metaphor (misal, tashabaha), 
    3.through relating stories, narrations (naba, hadith, qissa)  of past people, 
    4. and by mentioning the  approved practices, ways of living, traditions, precedents  (sunnat) of previous people of God and the prophets 
    5. and also through expressing disapproval of undesirable ways, practices of past people.

    Why do we need any more hadith, naba, qissa, misal, zikr, sunnat outside of the Quran to understand the Quran? Mixing these from outside of the Quran to understand  the Quran dilutes the meaning at the very least, and often contaminates/changes the meaning.

    The Quran is however not a book of history containing dates of events or a book of rituals and for these, one may rely on the ahadith.
    By Naseer Ahmed - 11/18/2018 2:38:37 AM



  • What a dumb comment from Hats Off!

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 11/17/2018 12:40:34 PM



  • "Hadiths with a good message may be read to gain wisdom or insight but not as  religious texts".

    thanks for your kind permission. now will you please go home?
    By hats off! - 11/17/2018 9:30:44 AM



  • Both Quran and Hadiths  are man made. God never sent his message as PDF files to the gmail of Mohammed and got it Printed. Hence the assertion that "Quran  is god made" does not cut much ice.The first six copies of Quran was put to flames and destroyed. By dr.A.Anburaj - 11/17/2018 9:21:42 AM



  • Authentic Hadith are the words of the Prophet, not the words of God. Only the words of God are holy for us. Even when reading the Quran, one must guard against human interpolation.

    Hadiths with a good message may be read to gain wisdom or insight but not as  religious texts.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 11/14/2018 1:08:58 PM



  • some epimenides stuff going on here.

    only an hadith can tell us if the prophet forbade it. because if prophet said it, it is again an hadith. (recursive self reference - a fatal flaw)

    all religions fall apart when one tries to grasp their details.
    By hats off! - 11/14/2018 7:14:25 AM



  • some epimenides stuff going on here.

    only an hadith can tell us if the prophet forbade it. because if prophet said it, it is again an hadith. (recursive self reference - a fatal flaw)

    all religions fall apart when one tries to grasp their details.
    By hats off! - 11/14/2018 7:14:24 AM



  • Oh, I am extremely perplexed by the author!
    He says the Prophet instructed not to write down Hadith. Truly the Prophet did so in the early period, taking into account the possibility of confusion for the Muslims between Quran and Hadith. But later the Prophet himself allowed reporting of Ahadith. 
    Both these reports are based on Ahadith themselves. 
    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 11/14/2018 6:35:56 AM



  • The author quotes Ms Hazelton for the prophetic story but fails to realize that Ms Hazelton herself has based her story on the sources of Ahadith.
    History itself is based on Ahadith reports. 

    By Usman Sakhi - 11/14/2018 6:28:53 AM



  • How have you come to know that the Prophet did not allow Hadith reporting?
    Any proof? 
    By Ghulam Hussain - 11/14/2018 6:18:24 AM