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  • The little boy is still running scared.

    Ilm al kalam is truly ilm al kamal. Try to drown what you cannot answer under mountains of irrelevancies.
    By Naseer Ahmed - 1/17/2019 12:41:31 AM



  • Dear Zohara,

    Thank you for your words. The purpose of writing this piece is to remove the bhoot of brainwashed youth who by quoting such a hadith in agreement with the agenda of terrorism get ready to die. It will be very nice if you share it with your friends and other surrounding circles so that it would reach as many people as possible.  By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/17/2019 12:06:28 AM



  • It is also not necessary for him to make unnecessary comments which merely lead to tautology and wearisomeness. Instead he should turn away from tediousness and study the usul, without damaging his faculty of reasoning through the oriental scholarship.

    May Allah save us from the so-called slogan of ‘subjectivity and objectivity’ in studying Islamic Sciences and enable us to get the blessed understading of the Quran and Sunnah, at least necessarily!  

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/16/2019 11:23:50 PM



  • He who is interested in knowing the details of Ahkam Al-Shariya, it is extremely necessary for him to study the usul/rules/methods which are the results of unforgettable efforts of the earlier and later jurists during 1400 years. It is not good for him to embrace the obscurities of illusions and darkness of doubts; as such things will never be appreciated among those that are really scholars.

    Yes It is a matter of great concern that this century is missing the real jurist who can resovle the newly rising issues, on the baiss of the methods which were known and practically applied by the earlier and later jurists as the most striking gems and pearls of great values. However it is Allah Who enables a man to deserve that juristic rank.   

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/16/2019 11:17:12 PM



  • It is very shocking to see few people blindly criticizing methodology of hadith [usul al-hadith] as a result of their lack of understanding. They do not bother to study the role of this subject of study, following in the footsteps of masters of orientalists like Schacht. The arguments that Joseph Schacht made are based on very weak foundations of reasons or on unauthentic anecdotes of Islamic history. Other orientalists and their followers including few Muslim-named people derived from his arguments many weak presumptions, to the highest extreme of certainity that they are not ready to rethink their own version of mistakes. This has made them supremacist and is causing xenophobia.   

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/16/2019 11:04:00 PM



  • This article of Mr. Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi is very nice. By Zohara Nasreen - 1/16/2019 9:06:44 AM



  • GGS says in the article: “ Hadith scholars and jurists have always held the view that any Hadith contradicting the Quran should be considered obsolete………”

    The Hadith directly contradicts the following verses:

    1. verse 2:256 “ Let there be no compulsion in religion”

    2. Verse 2:272. It is not required of thee (O Messenger), to set them on the right path, but Allah sets on the right path whom He pleaseth.

    3. Verse (10:99) If it had been thy Lord´s will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe!

    4. (8:61) But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in Allah: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things).(62) Should they intend to deceive thee,- verily Allah sufficeth thee: He it is That hath strengthened thee with His aid and with (the company of) the Believers;

    There is no verse of the Quran that supports the cited hadith but the hadith has resulted in misinterpreting several verses of the Quran deviating from their clear meaning and also misinterpreting the history of early Islam. This is covered in my articles:

    1.      The Ahadith That Distort The Message Of The Quran - Part I

    2.      The Ahadith That Distort The Message Of The Quran – Part Two

    GGS also lists several verses and says these verses “debarred Muslims from fighting in defence”. This is incorrect. To debar the Muslims from fighting, there should have been a verse that said “do not fight”. There is no such verse. What prevented the Muslims from fighting are two reasons:

    1.      They were in no position to fight. They were numerically very few and dispersed.

    2.      There was persecution and even physical torture but only one person was killed.  There was simply no enemy standing in battle to fight with. The situation deteriorated over a period and when the Prophet lost two powerful supporters because of their death, they made/planned an attempt on the life of the Prophet, but he migrated before they could lay their hands on him. The other Muslims migrated without much problem. Some Muslims even stayed behind and faced no problem. They were neither harmed nor did the subsequent verses regarding fighting apply to them. The verses regarding fighting are not about civil war but about fighting an enemy on a battle field. This situation did not exist earlier.

    What is objectionable about saying that the listed verses debarred the Muslims from fighting is the question why the Muslims fought then later?  Why did these verses not prevent fighting? Were they abrogated? The verses were neither abrogated nor can it be said that they did not apply. These verses continued to apply to those people who were not at war but are simply inapplicable to an enemy standing in battle. These verses continued to be applicable to those who had stayed behind in Mecca and the war verses were inapplicable to them unless they migrated first which the Quran makes clear.

    By Naseer Ahmed - 1/15/2019 6:07:08 PM



  • “The gnosis and knowledge of men is, compared with the Prophet’s, like the drop of moisture which oozes out of the top of a bound waterskin”. (Bayazid Bastami, Aspects of Islamic Civilization, Routledge, p. 124, translated by A. J. Arberry)

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/15/2019 3:44:31 AM



  • Some excerpts from the Last Sermon of the beloved Prophet [peace and blessings of Allah be upon him] delivered on the Ninth Day of Dhul Hijjah 10 A.H (c. 630 AD) include:

    O People, verily your blood, your property and your honour are sacred and inviolable until you appear before your Lord, as the sacred inviolability of this day of yours, this month of yours and this very town (of yours). Verily you will soon meet your Lord and you will be held answerable for your actions.”

    “O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your women, but they also have right over you. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers.”

    All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action. You know that every Muslim is the brother of another Muslim. Remember, one day you will appear before Allah and answer for your deeds. So beware, do not astray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.”

    All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me directly.”

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/15/2019 3:25:26 AM



  • Does anybody see any abuse in any of my comments in this thread? You can read GGS comments directed at me. Those are hostile and abusive. GGS is frightened little boy running away because he has no answers.

    "“I have been commanded to fight some specific people until they say ‘There is no god but Allah ....”

    Obviously some specific people meant in this Hadith were those who had persecuted the Prophet and his followers for as long as 14 or 15 years in the city of Makkah."

    No matter who those specific people were and what their crimes were, if the Prophet was commanded to fight until such people were compelled to accept Islam by reciting the kalima, they are being compelled. The Prophet and Allah (nauzobillah) are then both guilty of violating "Let there be no compulsion in religion". This is preposterous and a calumny against Allah and the Prophet. There is no choice but to trash the hadith as inspired by Satan.

    It is not only the extremists who are misguided by the hadith but even scholars such as Ibn Al-Arabi, Shah Waliullah, Raza Ahmad Khan, Javed Ghamidi, Malulana Waheeduddin Khan, al-Shabi, al-Hasan, Qatadah, al-Dahhaq etc.  

    By Naseer Ahmed - 12/22/2018 4:38:56 AM

    If one has an understanding of the Quran, he will realize that no one except those in whom Allah finds some goodness are made to listen to the Message and accept Islam (See verse 8:23).  Allah does not bless the evil with Islam and the worst are branded by Allah as Kafir (those who will not believe) in their lifetime itself and these will never believe even if they live for a thousand years. The examples from history are the Pharaoh to whom Moses was sent, Qarun, Haman, Abu Jahal, Abu Lahab, the people of Noah, Thamud, Aad and Lut destroyed by Allah etc. Where is the question of forcing evil people to accept Islam?  

    Belief is therefore the most precious gift and blessing from Allah.  Why would Allah command the Prophet to force this gift and blessing on the worst of the people?

    By Naseer Ahmed - 12/22/2018 5:09:27 AM

        
    Shahin Sb,

     Even if the hadith is limited to a particular set of people,it contradicts "Let there be no compulsion in religion" 2:256 besides other verses that advise the Prophet to accept peace if offered by the enemy even if he suspects treachery from them or subsequent breach of the treaty. So, is Allah saying one thing in the Quran and the opposite to the Prophet (PBUH) privately? The hadith is an invention of Satan.

     And what is the evidence that the hadith was ever followed? Is it verse 9:5? It cannot be because the people covered by it are given the freedom to move about freely as they please for an amnesty period of 4 months during which time they can migrate to adjoining Abyssinia and save their lives as well as their Pagan faith which I believe they did while others accepted Islam and no one was killed because of 9:5.  

     There is no evidence that the hadith was ever followed and overwhelming evidence that the Prophet acted in a manner that is the opposite of the hadith and exactly as per the Quran. Else, there would have been no treaty of Hudaybiyah, or amnesty after the conquest of Mecca for over a year until verse 9:5 was revealed and even then a clear opportunity was given to those guilty to save themselves and their pagan faith while others who were not guilty had the option to become jizya paying citizens as per 9:29 and retain their faith.

     Who exactly then were the people against whom the Prophet (pbuh) fought until they accepted Islam? I wonder why anyone defends a Satanic hadith and blaspheme Allah, the Prophet and the Quran.

     Islamic scholarship is however very comfortable with the contradictions and their ilm al kalam has been developed precisely to defend the indefensible. Ilm al kalam  is the anti-thesis of logic which has zero tolerance for contradictions.

    By Naseer Ahmed - 1/13/2019 12:26:45 AM

     GGS is blind to his own abusive, meaningless and completely irrational tirade.

     The Quran is a Book that makes things clear. I do not need any other source to understand the Quran.  Why do I need the ahadith to understand the objective of the Prophet's battles? Does not the Quran make it clear that it was to end the fitna of persecution and to make the deen of Allah prevail? Does not the deen of Allah include "let there be no compulsion in religion"? Is there any verse that says that the battles were to end the kufr of shirk? Does verse 9:13 list shirk as one of the reasons for the punishment in 9:5? So, what support is there for the hadith?

     Does not Allah say that none will believe unless Allah wills? Isn't belief a blessing from Allah? How can the same Allah command that the worst kind of enemies of the Prophet and Allah be fought against until they accept Islam? If Allah's blessing of Islam can be forced on the worst enemies of Islam, what wrong have others done that you spare them?  Why should they be deprived of this blessing?

     Isn't there a hadith that says even if all believed or none believed it makes no difference to the majesty of Allah? What has happened to the majesty of Allah that he should command the prophet to fight certain people who are the worst enemies of the Prophet and Allah until they believed? Why is Allah in love with these people that he should force His blessings on them at the point of the sword?

     The hadith is indeed Satanic and you are supporting such a hadith.

     Can you give a reasoned, logical, point by point response?

    By Naseer Ahmed - 1/13/2019 11:26:59 PM

    By Naseer Ahmed - 1/14/2019 11:16:58 PM



  • Hazrat Abdullah ibn 'Amr ibn al-'As reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "If anyone has four characteristics, he is a pure hypocrite, and if anyone has one of them, he has an aspect of hypocrisy until he gives it up: whenever he is trusted, he betrays his trust; whenever he speaks, he lies; whenever he makes an agreement, he breaks it; and whenever he quarrels, he deviates from the truth speaks falsely." [Riyadh-as-Saliheen by Imam Al-Nawawi, volume 4, hadith number 690]

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/14/2019 10:06:37 AM



  • Hazrat Abdullah ibn Mas'ud said, "The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, 'After I am gone there will be misappropriation and matters of which you disapprove.' They said, 'O Messenger of Allah, what do you command us to do?' He said, 'To fulfil the rights you owe to others and to ask Allah for what is owed to you.'" [Riyadh-as-Saliheen, volume 4, hadith number 670]

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/14/2019 10:04:51 AM



  • 'Abdullah ibn 'Amr ibn al-'As reported, "The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, 'Those who are just will be on minbars of light with Allah. They are those who are just in respect of their judgements, their families and what they are put in charge of." [Riyadh-as-Saliheen by Imam Al-Nawawi, volume 4, hadith number 660]

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/14/2019 10:02:58 AM



  • Hazrat 'A'isha [radiallahu anhu] said, "I heard the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, say in this house of his, 'O Allah, anyone who is appointed over any of the affairs of my community and is hard on them, I will be hard on him. Anyone who is appointed over any of the affairs of my community and is kind to them, I will be kind to him." [Riyadh-as-Saliheen by Imam Al-Nawawi, volume 4, hadith number 655]

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/14/2019 10:01:50 AM



  • 'Abdullah ibn Mas'ud reported that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "No one who has an atom's weight of pride in his heart will enter the Garden [heaven]." A man said, "And if the man likes his clothes to be good and his sandals to be good?" He said, "Allah is Beautiful and loves beauty. Pride means to renounce the truth and abase people." [Riyadh-as-Saliheen , volume 4, hadith number 612] By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/14/2019 9:58:43 AM



  • Haritha ibn Wahb said, "I heard the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, say, 'Shall I tell you about the people of the Fire? All those who are coarse, domineering, and arrogant.'" [Riyadh-as-Saliheen by Imam Al-Nawawi, volume 4, hadith number 614]

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/14/2019 9:57:14 AM



  • 'Iyad ibn Himar reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "Allah revealed to me that you should be humble so no one should vaunt himself above another, and no one should commit injustice against another."[ Riyadh-as-Saliheen by Imam Al-Nawawi, volume 4, hadith number 602]

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/14/2019 9:55:33 AM



  • I have no answer for your abuses.  By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/14/2019 9:53:17 AM



  • An-Nu'man ibn Bashir said, "I heard the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, say, "The halal is clear and the haram is clear. But between the two there are doubtful things about which most people have no knowledge. Whoever exercises caution with regard to what is doubtful, shows prudence in respect of his deen and his honour. Whoever gets involved in the doubtful things is like a herdsman who grazes his animals near a private preserve (hima). He is bound to enter it. Every king has a private preserve and the private preserve of Allah on His earth are the things that He has made forbidden. There is lump of flesh in the body, the nature of which is that when it is sound, the entire body is sound, and when it is corrupt, the entire body is corrupt - it is the heart." [Riyadh-as-Saliheen, volume 4, hadith number 588]

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/14/2019 9:51:28 AM



  • You are a scared little boy GGS without a clue as to how to answer. By Naseer Ahmed - 1/14/2019 9:48:02 AM



  • Abu Hurayra reported that the Messenger of Allah may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, “The strong man is not the one who throws people in wrestling. The strong man is the one who has control of himself when he is angry.”[Riyadh-as-Saliheen by Imam Al-Nawawi, 647]

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/14/2019 9:43:33 AM



  • newageislam is doing good work by posting such articles ... absolutely fine and deserves appreciation
    Thanks you Urooj for sharing it with us
    By Beangh - 1/14/2019 5:10:46 AM



  • I have heard speeches on the explanation of this hadith on youtube.

    by Dr. Hamza Yusus: youtube.com/watch?v=F2g6chliDIQ

    by Sheikh Tahir Wyatt:w.youtube.com/watch?v=YtO8f2bEhAI

    by Dr. Brown: youtube.com/watch?v=e6GBFW41uHg

    Many others have explained this hadith well. But Mr. Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi’s explanation here in this article is more scholastic and convincing.

    By Kaniz Fatma - 1/14/2019 4:53:17 AM



  • This word misinterpreting example if said i will fight for muslim rights in uk pple dont think killing but they thought its by legal
    So this word has wide meaning than this
    By muslim tube - 1/14/2019 4:37:55 AM



  • Paying Jizya means paying taxes like any citizen
    By Nizam - 1/14/2019 4:36:12 AM



  • masha Allah ........GOOD explanation /...Thanks a lot By Ibrahim - 1/14/2019 4:35:16 AM



  • In today’s world when a person say “I will fight for women’s right or fight against inequality” do they take sword or gun or nuclear weapon to achieve their goal?
    By Sumayya Nazneen - 1/14/2019 4:33:15 AM



  • Nice quoting, Miss KF!

    Jarir ibn 'Abdullah said, “I heard the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, say, “Whoever is deprived of kindness is deprived of all good.” (Riyadh-as-Saliheen by Imam Al-Nawawi, volume 4, hadith number 638)

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/14/2019 3:55:51 AM



  • Allah Almighty has given GGS good faculty of reasoning. GGS knows how to read, and understand the Quran. He is never interested in you and your comments or articles.
    He is thankful to his God. 
    All praise be to Allah. 
    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/14/2019 3:07:08 AM



  • GGS is blind to his own abusive, meaningless and completely irrational tirade.

    The Quran is a Book that makes things clear. I do not need any other source to understand the Quran.  Why do I need the ahadith to understand the objective of the Prophet's battles? Does not the Quran make it clear that it was to end the fitna of persecution and to make the deen of Allah prevail? Does not the deen of Allah include "let there be no compulsion in religion"? Is there any verse that says that the battles were to end the kufr of shirk? Does verse 9:13 list shirk as one of the reasons for the punishment in 9:5? So, what support is there for the hadith?

    Does not Allah say that none will believe unless Allah wills? Isn't belief a blessing from Allah? How can the same Allah command that the worst kind of enemies of the Prophet and Allah be fought against until they accept Islam? If Allah's blessing of Islam can be forced on the worst enemies of Islam, what wrong have others done that you spare them?  Why should they be deprived of this blessing?

    Isn't there a hadith that says even if all believed or none believed it makes no difference to the majesty of Allah? What has happened to the majesty of Allah that he should command the prophet to fight certain people who are the worst enemies of the Prophet and Allah until they believed? Why is Allah in love with these people that he should force His blessings on them at the point of the sword?

    The hadith is indeed Satanic and you are supporting such a hadith.

    Can you give a reasoned, logical, point by point response?
    By Naseer Ahmed - 1/13/2019 11:26:59 PM



  • Ms Kaniz Fatima,

    You say "And history is a witness that no one was forced to accept Islam". I agree. This means then that the hadith was never followed by the Prophet (pbuh) and is false.
    By Naseer Ahmed - 1/13/2019 11:08:41 PM



  • Why Jihadists and Islamophobes are ignoring such a hadith?!! 'A'isha reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, “Allah is kind and loves kindness in every matter. (Riyadh-as-Saliheen by Imam Al-Nawawi, volume 4, hadith number 633)

    By Kaniz Fatma - 1/13/2019 8:31:10 PM



  • When a person is in doubt about any issue, he should leave it and accept what is better. There is a hadith. Al-Hasan ibn 'Ali said, "I memorised from the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, "Leave what gives you doubt for what gives you no doubt." (Riyadh-as-Saliheen by Imam Al-Nawawi, 593)

    So anyone who has doubt in understanding the misunderstood hadith can leave it and accept what the Quran says, without abusing anyone. One who has no doubt in understanding this hadith and thinks he can clear doubts of Jihadists should do it. This article tries to remove misunderstanding of jihadists who quote this hadith and it is very necessary to refute their misunderstanding.

    Islamophobes and terror ideologues have shaken their hands to quote this hadith to defame Islam; we should not forget that they also quote the Quran, and ignore other dozens of peaceful verses of the Quran and Ahadith

    By Kaniz Fatma - 1/13/2019 8:28:11 PM



  • Islam urged to abolish the slavery system. The slavery system was gradually abolished. The Prophet is reported to have said, "He who has a slave-girl and teaches her good manners and improves her education and then manumits and marries her, will get a double reward; and any slave who observes Allah's right and his master's right will get a double reward." (Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ashari, in Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 46, Number 723)

    By Kaniz Fatma - 1/13/2019 8:17:41 PM



  • It is reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "A believer in respect of another believer is like a building whose parts support one another." and he intertwined his fingers.
    Riyadh-as-Saliheen by Imam Al-Nawawi, volume 2, hadith number 222
    By Kaniz Fatma - 1/13/2019 8:01:19 PM



  • Comment 4 to Sultan Shahin Saheb,

    The Imams of all the four Islamic schools of jurisprudence [Hanafi, Shafei, Maliki and Hanbali] said, the Hadith “I was ordered to fight the people” does not refer to all the people but to the disbelievers of Makka who had persecuted Muslims.

    We disagree with Ibn Taymiyyah’s thought but even he too has explained this hadith in a way which does not support the jihadists who claim to follow Ibn Taymiyyah.

    The meaning of this Hadith in the language of Ibn Taymiyyah is as follows: “the people that I must fight (who are they)? They are the people who were hostile towards him, the first to assault him and break the covenant, not all the people”.

    The problem is with the understanding of jihadists who even kill those who recite La Ilaha Illallahu.... [There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah – peace be upon him]

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/13/2019 3:51:28 AM



  • “The classical understanding of this hadith ‘I have been commanded to fight ....” is that it refers to some polytheistic Arabs who persecuted, murdered Muslims and their allies, and broke their treaties with them. As such, some deserved capital punishment, yet they are given the opportunity to repent in which case they are to be forgiven, and their property will be protected. This shows, the command of the Hadith was specific to one group only, those who caused bloodshed and showed open aggression against the Muslims and their non-Muslim allies, 1300 years ago. And history is a witness that no one was forced to accept Islam” (https://discover-the-truth.com/2016/12/25/the-hadith-fight-until-they-say-there-is-no-god-but-allah-explained)

    But terror masters, Islamophobes are not ready to accept this understanding. It seems as if they had vowed to destruct all beautiful messages of the Quran and Hadith.

    By Kaniz Fatma - 1/13/2019 3:39:44 AM



  • Comment 3 - Dear Sultan Shahin sahib, you say, “But would the same logic not limit the prophet-hood of Hazrat Mohammad (peace be upon him) to merely Makka or Arabia rather than mankind as Al-Naas or Lin-Naas, is also used in verses of Quran like 2:185,3: 110, 7:158, 34:28, etc, proclaiming his prophethood for all mankind, as we understand today?"

    I do not think this was supported only by logic. This understanding was primarily supported by the Quranic ayaat and other Ahadith which establish a model for the believers that forced conversion is not allowed. 

    This article says that Alif Lam is of four types; 1) Jinsi, 2) Istighraqi, 3) Ahd Zihni and 4) Ahd Khariji.

     

    (1) When Alif-Lam is prefixed to any word to focus on the definition [Haqiqat] of that word and not its constituents, it is known as Alif Lam Jinsi. (2) When Alif Lam is prefixed to any word to focus on all the constituents/ all the individuals of that word, it is called Alif Lam Istighraqi. (3) When Alif Lam refers to some of the constituents of the word to which it prefixed, it may refer to some unspecified constituents or to some specific constituents. When it refers to some unspecified constituents, it is called Alif Lam Ahd Zihni. (4) When Alif Lam refers to some specific constituents of the word to which it is prefixed, it is called Alif Lam Ahd Khariji

     

    Technically checking the letters ‘Alif Lam’ mentioned in the aforementioned Hadith, we find that here in this Hadith ‘Alif Lam’ is meant for Ahd Khariji. Thus the Hadith means “I have been commanded to fight some specific people until they say ‘There is no god but Allah ....”

    Alif lam being Ahd-E-Khariji in this hadith is because in other cases it will contradict the Quran and other Ahadith.

     

    Let us see the ayat 2:185 which uses the word ‘al-nas’/the people. In this case we can’t say that the alif-lam used in al-nas is Ahd-e-Khariji as it will then contradict the Quran which implies that the Quranic guidance is meant for all mankind. Here alif lam is istighraqi which refers to all mankind / all people of the world. This is fully supported by other Quranic verses which you also have referred to.

     

    For example, Allah says, “Say “O people! Indeed I am, towards you all, the Noble Messenger of Allah – for Whom (Allah) only is the kingship of the heavens and the earth; there is none worthy of worship, except Him – giving life and giving death; therefore believe in Allah and His Noble Messenger, the Prophet who is untutored (except by Allah), who believes in Allah and His Words, and obey him (the Prophet) to attain guidance.” (7:158)

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/13/2019 3:12:58 AM



  • @Naseer sb,

    Why don’t you tolerate ilm al-kalam if it is not tolerant towards you? Are you not seeing your own face in the mirror?

    Where have you brought the use of ‘Hudaybiya’ from?

    As for Ilm al-Kalam, it is beneficial for men of true-seekers and genuine and not for the haters who have no other option except to live with their hate-filled hearts.

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/13/2019 2:46:18 AM



  • @Naseer sb,

    Your agenda is very clear and Muslims should never support people like you in any way. You have neither understood the Quran, nor Ahadith, nor anyone.

    Your jihalat exceeds because you have been abusive person on this site, irrational, unreasonable and unable to understand the Quran itself.

    You use abusive words for others but they are stuck with your own thinking and mindset.

    Why do you interfere into a healthy debate when I am not interested into reading your abusive comments?

    Show me how many Muslims support your arguments.  None and never will they follow except those who have purchased misguidance for guidance.

    All English translators, while translating the Quran, have taken support of Ahadith. It is your so-called agenda to denounce ‘hadith’.

    Who has told you about Makki and Madani verses?

    Who has told you that this the holy Quran?

    Did Angel Jibrail bring revelation to you?

    What is the source of history to record anything about Islam?

    Who has told you about so many things you wrote in your articles?

    Are you blindly claiming not to following ahadith?

    Are you selective to decide which hadith is good for your wish and bad for your wishes or do you have any approved method to check the hadith?

    Who told you how to perform Namaz?

    Who told you when and how and how much zakat you should give?

    There are hundreds of issues for which you are still blind and perhaps will remain forever unless you have good intention in pursuit of knowledge. The ill-mouthed men can never attain fiqh/good understanding of the blessed message of the Quran.

    I hate and categorically reject you when you said “The hadith is an invention of Satan”

    There are many ‘mulla’ who attribute their satanic wishes to Islam; and you are one of them.

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/13/2019 2:38:25 AM



  • Comment 2- Another example of general term being used in the Quran for specific people can be seen in this ayat 54:12 which reads, “And We caused the earth [al-ard] to gush forth with springs” (54:12)” This ayat refers to the deluge in the era of Hazrat Nuh [Noah] peace be upon him. Does it mean all the earth, as there is the use of al- with earth? No, this is not true. Scientifically the flood could not have covered all earth. Thus what is meant by the word “earth” is the earth to which Hazrat Noah was appointed, the land of his people, which Allah wanted to drown with the flood. This understanding is supported by the reading of the full context of the ayat and ahadith that talk about its context.

    This fact is categorically established that before the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), all prophets were sent specifically to their people. Far be it from God Almighty, to send Noah specifically to his people and then drown the whole earth. No, He Almighty drowned those people who disbelieved in him.

    (continued)

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/13/2019 12:39:25 AM



  • Shahin Sb,

    Even if the hadith is limited to a particular set of people,it contradicts "Let there be no compulsion in religion" 2:256 besides other verses that advise the Prophet to accept peace if offered by the enemy even if he suspects treachery from them or subsequent breach of the treaty. So, is Allah saying one thing in the Quran and the opposite to the Prophet (PBUH) privately? The hadith is an invention of Satan.

    And what is the evidence that the hadith was ever followed? Is it verse 9:5? It cannot be because the people covered by it are given the freedom to move about freely as they please for an amnesty period of 4 months during which time they can migrate to adjoining Abyssinia and save their lives as well as their Pagan faith which I believe they did while others accepted Islam and no one was killed because of 9:5.  

    There is no evidence that the hadith was ever followed and overwhelming evidence that the Prophet acted in a manner that is the opposite of the hadith and exactly as per the Quran. Else, there would have been no treaty of Hudaybiyah, or amnesty after the conquest of Mecca for over a year until verse 9:5 was revealed and even then a clear opportunity was given to those guilty to save themselves and their pagan faith while others who were not guilty had the option to become jizya paying citizens as per 9:29 and retain their faith.

    Who exactly then were the people against whom the Prophet (pbuh) fought until they accepted Islam? I wonder why anyone defends a Satanic hadith and blaspheme Allah, the Prophet and the Quran.

    Islamic scholarship is however very comfortable with the contradictions and their ilm al kalam has been developed precisely to defend the indefensible. Ilm al kalam  is the anti-thesis of logic which has zero tolerance for contradictions.
    By Naseer Ahmed - 1/13/2019 12:26:45 AM



  • Mr. Zuma says, “The phrase, Whithersoever ye turn... there is the presence of Allah, in Quran 2:115 implies Allah can be located everywhere instead of restricting it to Arab.

    Allah Almighty is omnipresent (present everywhere) by Himself. He does not need anyone to make him omnipresent. Therefore Zuma’s using passive verb to express this creed is categorically wrong.

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/12/2019 10:34:23 PM



  • Comment 1- Dear Sultan Shahin Saheb, you have posed interesting questions. I left many implications in this article because it had been lengthy. But I will put them under the comment section through your questions posed to me.

    You said to me, “you seem to be putting overwhelming reliance on the argument that the definite article al limits the meaning of Al-Naasin this Hadith to only the specific people or Mushrikeen of Makka or maybe Arabia.”

    I read my own article again but I could not find that I had put overwhelming reliance on the argument of alif laam meem or al. This argument, if unsupported by the concept of war mentioned in the Quran and other Ahadith, will be merely a linguistic argument. We know that only linguistic method is not sufficient to reach the understanding of the message of the Quran or Sunnah or Ahadith. If this alif lam argument had not been supported by the Quran and Ahadith to mean that al-naas in this hadith was meant only for a specific group of people, this would have been selective argument and urged the reader to pose the question “why the same selective argument is not applicable to other verses of the Quran in which the words ‘al-nas’, ‘al-qaum’ or al-alamin etc have been used?” Therefore I could not put overwhelming reliance on the alif-lam argument; rather I had to adopt the meaning supported by the Quran, other war-related ahadith and implications of all the four imams of Islamic Jurisprudence; which all together are important for to consider.

    General terms in Arabic are sometimes used for specific people. The early scholars found out many such examples in the holy Quran.

    For example, Allah Almighty says, “The people [al-nas] said to them, “Indeed, the people [al-nas] have gathered against you, so fear them.” But it [merely] increased them in faith, and they said, "Sufficient for us is Allah, and [He is] the best Disposer of affairs.” (3:173). In this ayat, the word al-nas is mentioned twice. The point to note is that what is meant by the first ‘al-nas’ [people] cannot be all the people [al-nas].  In the text, “When the people [al-nas] said to them”, is it all the people on the earth who said? If so then who are they saying to? At this point our logic might take us to many possibilities such as 1) they said to themselves, 2) they said to other people. When we read the implications of this ayat through the hadith to know its context, reason of revelation, uses of general terms for specific reasons, we reach the level of surety which gives us the benefit of ilm al-yaqin. We are thus sure of the fact that the first ‘people’ [al-nas] who are saying differ from the people who are being told, yet both [the people who said and the people who were being told] have been referred to as the people [al-nas]. Supported by ahadith, all the books of tafsir mention that what is meant by the first ‘people’/al-nas is Nuaym Ibn Masud and his likes and what is meant by the second ‘people’ in this ayat [...the people have gathered against you..] is Abu Sufiyan and the confederates.

    (Continued)

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 1/12/2019 10:00:36 PM



  • The verse supports Allah does not belong to Arab only since it belongs to east and west:
    وَلِلَّهِ الْمَشْرِقُ وَالْمَغْرِبُ ۚ فَأَيْنَمَا تُوَلُّوا فَثَمَّ وَجْهُ اللَّهِ ۚ إِنَّ اللَّهَ وَاسِعٌ عَلِيمٌ
    To Allah belong the east and the West: Whithersoever ye turn, there is the presence of Allah. For Allah is all-Pervading, all-Knowing."
    The phrase, Whithersoever ye turn... there is the presence of Allah, in Quran 2:115 implies Allah can be located everywhere instead of restricting it to Arab.
    The same is in the extracts below:
    سَيَقُولُ السُّفَهَاءُ مِنَ النَّاسِ مَا وَلَّاهُمْ عَنْ قِبْلَتِهِمُ الَّتِي كَانُوا عَلَيْهَا ۚ قُلْ لِلَّهِ الْمَشْرِقُ وَالْمَغْرِبُ ۚ يَهْدِي مَنْ يَشَاءُ إِلَىٰ صِرَاطٍ مُسْتَقِيمٍ
    The fools among the people will say: "What hath turned them from the Qibla to which they were used?" Say: To Allah belong both east and West: He guideth whom He will to a Way that is straight."
    By zuma - 1/12/2019 3:08:18 PM



  • Dear Ghulam Ghaus Saheb, you seem to be putting overwhelming reliance on the argument that the definite article al limits the meaning of Al-Naas in this Hadith to only the specific people or Mushrikeen of Makka or maybe Arabia. But would the same logic not limit the prophethood of Hazrat Mohammad (peace be upon him) to merely Makka or Arabia rather than mankind as Al-Naas or Lin-Naas, is also used in verses of Quran like 2:185, 3: 110, 7:158, 34:28, etc, proclaiming his prophethood for all mankind, as we understand today?

    By using the definite article in these verses, is God telling us that the Prophet was appointed as a messenger for this Arabian region alone, as were other prophets who were asked to propagate their message in their own regions or among the people who understood the language in which the message was revealed to them?

    But this would contradict the meaning we derive from words like Aalemoon or Aalemin for which the Prophet is appointed a messenger in verses like, Q. 25:1, 21:107, 38:87, 12:104, 6:90, 81:27, etc.

    By Sultan Shahin - 1/12/2019 8:14:27 AM



  • Kate Stewart on his twitter account writes (at 1:01 AM - 27 Dec 2018), “As a convert to Islam, I was amazed to discover the detailed rights given to women in the religion. The stereotyping of Muslim women as 'oppressed' is part of an anti-Muslim global narrative, but still there are thousands of us who have looked deeper and found the truth.”

    By Kaniz Fatma - 12/27/2018 7:32:36 PM



  • @Naseer sb,

    You have expressed facts. Today I read in Inquilab an article of Khalid Rahmani in which he wrote, “the western county raise slogans over freedom speech and in this they exceed so much that they respect nudity and at the same time they deny the freedom of right of the muslim who want to attire burqa, hijab or any other covering dress. This is double standard”

    I think people are not interested in women rights but in finding out possibilities to criticize Islam while Muslim women who have understood Islam by their studies think that Islam is doing best protection for them.

    By Kaniz Fatma - 12/27/2018 7:28:07 PM



  • after all judaism, christianity and islam are dayaadis. they derive from a man who thought nothing of beheading his own son on the basis of an auditory hallucination.

    after a religion based on "ahimsa" gave us the rohingyas. so you can guess how "peaceful" a religion based on auditory hallucination with voilent messages.

    fight to finish is what tribal dayaadis do best. abrahamic religions are nothing but different versions of the epic of gilgamesh.

    the only common factor among all three is the pathological idol hatred, polytheism hatred and a megalomaniacal monotheism. world conquest has always been their dream. but the world is not something that some nonsense religion can take over as if it was the persian empire.
    By anandarao313@yahoo.com - 12/27/2018 4:16:15 PM



  • Ms Kaniz Fatima,
    People are intolerant of those they feel threatened by. Hinduism, Buddhism and Sikhism are too alien for the Christian West to worry about.
    The Hindus in India however show intolerance of the Muslims and the Christians because they feel threatened by the evangelizing character of their religions. They feel that they will lose their numbers to these faiths. In the past also, Hinduism felt threatened by Buddhism and drove it out of the country after Buddhism lost political patronage of the kings. 
    The Pagans in Mecca felt threatened by the new religion and opposed it.
    Christianity fears Islam because it has the power to spread among the Christians. There are many pastors and priests besides laymen who have accepted Islam and the religion continues to spread among them.
    By Naseer Ahmed - 12/27/2018 4:28:15 AM



  • Someone asked me this question. Please reply.

    "Europe had first problem with Judaism, now with Islam. No issue with Hinduism, Buddhism or Sikhism. Is there a culture of intolerance among Abrahamic religions?"

    By Kaniz Fatma - 12/26/2018 11:32:31 PM



  • Aayina,
    Please read the following article:

    By Naseer Ahmed - 12/26/2018 10:06:01 PM



  • To Nasser Ahmed & Fatima Kazmi
    From non-Muslim prospective
    "Will not belive" gives political power and might to kill other, as truth as per Mohmmad paigamber, no matter what you convince with this new truth or not convinced you are bound to accept it, which comes with sword if you do not belive, it is that simple, this what I can interpret but scholars here are deciving others and themselves, in any era of earth this can be understood this way only as long people understand the language it is written.
    This is what exactly happen to while I was doing chat online Islamic website, the end  of the chat was that if do not believe in Islam, be ready for fight, sword will tell the truth as God is always wil muslim that was outcome of debat,
    I will give link try it yourself.
    That is the reason we do not trust moderate their interpretation is same as others but they try to deceive us.
    By Aayina - 12/26/2018 6:33:16 PM



  • @Naseer sb, 
    I agree with this line "Our concern should be with eliminating oppression and injustice without bothering about the faith of the oppressor or the oppressed." 
    By Kaniz Fatma - 12/26/2018 3:16:33 AM



  • Ms Kaniz Fatima,

    Consider the verse:

    (2:143) Thus, have We made of you an Ummat justly balanced, that ye might be witnesses (Shuhada) over the nations, and the Messenger a witness (Shaheeda) over yourselves;

     

    The Messenger’s function as a witness over the Muslims is to provide evidence to God on the Day of Judgment that His message was delivered.

    Other prophets will similarly provide evidence and will also be given an opportunity to intercede. For an example, read verses 5:109 to 118 which describe how Jesus Christ (pbuh) will provide such evidence on the Day of Judgment and what his words of intercession would be.

    Those who do Dawah among the followers of the Messenger in turn will provide evidence of having spread this message to the rest of the world.

    (39:68) The Trumpet will (just) be sounded, when all that are in the heavens and on earth will swoon, except such as it will please Allah (to exempt). Then will a second one be sounded, when, behold, they will be standing and looking on!

    (69) And the Earth will shine with the Glory of its Lord: the Record (of Deeds) will be placed (open); the prophets and the witnesses will be brought forward and a just decision pronounced between them; and they will not be wronged (in the least).

    (70) And to every soul will be paid in full (the fruit) of its Deeds; and (Allah) knoweth best all that they do.

     

    The Shuhuda communicate the message through words as well as by example. Their life, deeds and every action is in accordance with the religion of Allah. They provide evidence to the people about Allah, His attributes and His religion by what they say and by what they do. They also provide witness or evidence to God that His message has been properly communicated. They are exemplars par excellence. The highest category of the Shuhada is the prophets and the people who do Dawah in an exemplary manner by word and deed.

    The Quran recognizes several paths as the correct paths and in general, assures that:

    (2:112) Nay,-whoever submits His whole self to Allah and is a doer of good,- He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

    The witnesses on the Day of Judgment will be all the prophets and their followers who can be categorized as “Shuhuda”.

    The power to grant intercession is with Allah only and no one can intercede or so much as utter a word without Allah’s permission. No prophet or person can therefore assure all those who claim to be their followers of their intercession.

    The best to intercede on a person’s behalf are his/her own deeds and when these fall insufficient, and yet Allah wants to admit the person to Heaven, will He allow intercession for the person. The Grace to grant intercession and forgiveness, is with Allah only.

    The Christians, the Jews and the Muslims exaggerate when they say that their prophets will get them through the ordeal, or that they will have to suffer in the Hell for only a short period.

    The followers of Muhammad (pbuh) have the perfected and complete deen with them and if with that advantage, they cannot be better than the others, they will fall behind the others on the Day of Judgment.

    (2:148) To each is a goal to which Allah turns him; then strive together (as in a race) Towards all that is good. Wheresoever ye are, Allah will bring you Together. For Allah Hath power over all things.

    Beliefs are a means to excelling in deeds and it is only our deeds that will matter. Read the entire Quran carefully and you will find that there is no reward for simply believing. False beliefs will of course lead us to disaster – for example, the belief that the Prophet will get us through if we have recited the Kalima, irrespective of our deeds.

    By Naseer Ahmed - 12/26/2018 2:56:41 AM



  • Shaykh Ahmad Al-Faruqi reported that Shah Naqshband said,

    “The community of Muhammad (peace be upon him) includes whoever comes after the prophet (peace be upon him). It is composed of the three types: ummat al-dawah, ummat al-ijaba, and ummat al-mutabaa.

    Ummat al dawah: absolutely everyone who came after the Prophet peace be upon him and simply heard his message. That the Prophet peace be upon him came to all people without exception is clear from many verses in the Quran. Furthermore his community is the moderating witness over all other communities and the Prophet peace be upon him is the one witness over everybody including the other communities and their own respective witnesses.

    Ummat al ijaba: those who accepted the message.

    Ummat al-mutabaa: those who accepted the message and followed the footsteps of the Prophet peace be upon him.

    All of these categories of the prophet’s community are saved. If they are not saved by their deeds, then they are saved by the intercession of the prophet according to his saying, “my intercession is for the sinners of my community”

    (Classical Islam and the Naqshbandi Sufi Tradition by Muhammad Hisham Kabbani, p.222)

    Naseer sb,

    Do you have anything to comment upon this division of ummat?

    By Kaniz Fatma - 12/26/2018 1:17:15 AM



  • Ms Kaniz Fatima,

    You have got me wrong. Take verse 9:5 which is about the Mushrikin to whom the Prophet himself had preached for 13 years, who were among the people who drove him out of Mecca and among the people who fought against him and yet the Quran does not refer to them as Kafir. 

    The majority of the people simply follow their leader or the traditions of their forefathers. They have neither the time nor the intellect to study and choose. Such people, when their leaders are eliminated, follow the new leaders. They are not by themselves evil but people without real freedom and subject to the authority of the powerful leaders.

    Why should it be anybody's concern about who will be considered as Kafir by Allah?

    Our concern should be with eliminating oppression and injustice without bothering about the faith of the oppressor or the oppressed.

    It is only for Allah to judge who is a kafir and punish them  in this world or in the Hereafter and many believers will fall in this category and many of those we consider "disbelievers" will not fall in this category.
    By Naseer Ahmed - 12/26/2018 12:59:44 AM



  • @Zuma,
    The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The parable of the believers in their affection, mercy, and compassion for each other is that of a body. When any limb aches, the whole body reacts with sleeplessness and fever.” (Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī)
    This hadith is missing in practice of Muslims all over the world. By Kaniz Fatma - 12/25/2018 10:10:41 PM



  • Dear Shahin sir,
    So it means disbelievers are those who have not been given dawat of Islam. According to Naseer sb, these disbelivers are not kafirin.
    Disbelievers who do not accept dawat of islam are from the category of “those who will not believe”. These disbelievers who do not believe will become ‘kafirin’.
    This is tricky and somewhat difficult in many ways.
    But Sufis divide people into two ways; ummat dawat and ummat ijabat. By Kaniz Fatma - 12/25/2018 10:06:58 PM



  • If the prophet would not spare the life of pagan, why should the book #36, hadith #465 (mentions), "Allah's Apostle...hired... a pagan (follower of the religion of the pagans of Quraish)..." without forcing him to forsake his religion to become Muslim? All these prove you are wrong that the Prophet would kill those who renounced Islam. As the Prophet accepted this pagan to be his expert guide as mentioned in this hadith verse, it proves that he did not treat all non-Arabians to be haram. By zuma - 12/25/2018 8:24:37 AM



  • dr. A. Anburaj, if the Prophet would kill those who renounced Islam, why should the book #34, hadith #419, (supported he traded with a pagan without killing him since it mentions)....We were with the Prophet when a tall pagan...driving his sheep. The prophet asked him, "Are those sheep for sale or for gifts?" The pagan replied, "They are for sale." The Prophet bought one sheep from him." As the prophet did not order his followers to slaughter this pagan, it refutes the teaching that he would order to slaughter those who renounced Islam. By zuma - 12/25/2018 8:19:22 AM



  • dr A. Anburaj, if it were true that those who renounced Islam were killed in the era of Muslims, why should book #63, hadith #210, "(mentions) The pagans were of two kinds as regards their relationship to the Prophet and the Believers. Some...were at war...the others were those with whom the Prophet made a treaty, and neither did the Prophet fight them, nor did they fight him...". If you were right that he would kill those who renounced Muslims, why should he spare those pagans to whom he had treaty with them? By zuma - 12/25/2018 8:11:39 AM



  • dr A. Anburaj, as you have mentioned those who renounced Muslims were killed, your words imply Allah also accepts non-Arabians who did not renounce Muslims.  As that was so in the past, how could you claim non-Arabians were haram?  As non-Arabians could become Muslims, how could you condemn all non-Arabians to be haram?  You derive your own definition from no way from Quran but your own definition that only Arabians are non-haram.  If only Arabians can be non-haram, none of the people other than those whose genealogies can be traced from Arab can be Muslims.  Do you have any Quranic verse to support all non-Arabians are haram?  If yes, all non-Arabians should abandon their religions to be Muslims.  That is not true.  Any non-Arabians can be non-haram if they are converted to Muslims.  As non-Arabians can be non-haram, Quran is meant for all the people in this world and not only for Arabians.  As Quran is for all the people in this world, there is no reason to treat non-Arabians to be haram.
    By zuma - 12/25/2018 7:58:35 AM



  • The author is a cheat. The Chief Airm of  All wars that pro.Mohammed had  waged, was  accept His Leadership and become a Muslim. Those who renounced Islam were Killed. Asma the Jewish poetess was killed  for criticising Pro.Mohammed. The above article  teems with untruth.  By dr.A.Anburaj - 12/25/2018 5:58:53 AM



  • Dear Kaniz Fatima, Naseer Saheb has said: 'The Kafirin are not the disbelievers but those who will not believe."
    There is a difference between do not and will not. 
    You are making the kind of mistake  our Supreme Court made recently in understanding Government's affidavit on Rafale deal. 
    By Sultan Shahin - 12/25/2018 3:58:15 AM



  • It is no concern of any human being about another human being whether that person is a "disbeliever" or a "person who will not believe"

    By Naseer Ahmed - 12/25/2018 3:02:17 AM



  • It is very difficult to understand difference between "disbelievers and those who do not believe" By Kaniz Fatma - 12/25/2018 1:32:39 AM



  • To Nasser Ahmed 
    I read it your last comment thoroughly, it shows that Allah is more like smart human, what ever you said is still relevant for any new change and regime.
    It exactly match For BJP a new face of political power because people especially powerful people were used and was in close connection with old system of congress.
    But we all know many left congress and many aligned with BJP, a media which aligned is called Godi media.
    But we also know many had aligned after threatening.
    We also know that some will never  align with BJP
    Now What surprised me is your Allah get impatient and ready to kill at the end, people who lived in forefather land were told to leave or fight, what kind of God is this, any way Quran we read is Utmmans  political Quran, turth was lost when he burned lots other first hand copies.
    I belive their can be some truth but not completely, a book called Khulasa from Prnami faith clearly mentions how Real Quran was taken away as courroupt people took charge of Islam.
    I am kind of person who will never align with other courroupt or even non curroupt who threaten me for life, because life is going to go away one day but arrogance and hegemony cannot be accepted if it comes from pride of being powerful.
    What you have written shows God would have kill the people if his superiority is not excepted 1400 year ago if I and many like me(mostly atheist) cannot accept wrong superiority of humans in base of threatning of life, how can be God who use his/her power through his Avtars or Paigmebrs.
    Thanks for answering anyway, your answer is also universal in nature but it shows hint of Human phycological behaviour which expressed in many way and behaviour God in explain is non other than human, God need something more than miracles and more compassionate behaviour.
    More or more I read this website It confirm Quran is man made, because I find the human qualities of Quran Allah's
    It's seems Jesus and was more Compassionate than Allah of Quran.
    You can keep your opinion and faith.
    My intentions is only to make sure how we has Hindus have to protect and retaliate ourselves form violent nature of Quran which can be used anything in future as it has always used in Muslim history past
    You may be thinking why I am stressing this, but I have been called kafir openly when I was kid and in Muslim gathering when I was in my Adulthood.
    When violent narrative comes up on the top and gain political power, and those Muslim  who want to kill Hindus are not going to belive what so ever you tell them( it exactly like your meaning of Kafir, who will never belive)they will kill, Kasmir pandits is live example in India.
    Thorough history I have never seen a Mass Muslim army is in protection of non-Muslims and that is the reason I have called scholars hypocrates because they know once coverted by force under political power converted for all time, this what hiddenly supported by so called rational Muslims.
    By Aayina - 12/25/2018 1:06:20 AM



  • Aayina, The Kafirin are not the disbelievers but those who will not believe

     بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ قُلْ يَا أَيُّهَا الْكَافِرُونَ

    لَا أَعْبُدُ مَا تَعْبُدُونَ

    وَلَا أَنتُمْ عَابِدُونَ مَا أَعْبُدُ

    وَلَا أَنَا عَابِدٌ مَّا عَبَدتُّمْ

    وَلَا أَنتُمْ عَابِدُونَ مَا أَعْبُدُ

    لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِينِ

     Surah Al-Kafirun is an early Meccan Surah (chronological order 18) and is addressed to the Kafirun among the Mushrikun. These Kafirun are told that neither do they nor will they worship what the Prophet worships. These are words of finality and such Kafir will not believe. Who are they? We can identify a few of them. The Prophet faced very hostile opposition to his mission right from the early days. The violent opponents were Abu Jahl mentioned from his behavior in Surah 96 Al –Alaq, chronologically the first Surah to be revealed, Surah 68 Al –Qalam or the Pen (chronology 2), speaks of Walid ibn Mughiyrah who was peculiarly despicable. He was a ringleader in calumniating the Prophet and who came to an evil end not long after the battle of Badr, in which he received injuries. Walid ibn Mughayrah was a wealthy Sybarite, and an inveterate enemy to the Prophet. He and Abu Jahl did all they could, from the beginning of the preaching of Islam, to abuse and persecute the Prophet, to run down his doctrine, and to injure those who believed in it. Surah 111 Al –Masad (chronological order 6) is about Abu Lahab and his wife who were also enemies of the Prophet. These and their active associates and helpers are the Kafirun that the Surah Al-Kafirun addresses. The chronological number of this Surah is 18 and may have been revealed 8 years before Hijrah during which the Prophet continued to do Da’wah among the Mushrikun leaving alone the Kafirun.

     إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا سَوَاءٌ عَلَيْهِمْ أَأَنذَرْتَهُمْ أَمْ لَمْ تُنذِرْهُمْ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ

     (2:6) As to the Kafaru, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe.

     If Kafaru means disbeliever, then the above verse means that it is futile to do Da’wah among the disbelievers. This is obviously incorrect and clearly therefore, Kafaru does not mean disbeliever, but those with characteristics of a person who will never believe such as Abu Lahab.

     فَلَا تُطِعِ الْكَافِرِينَ وَجَاهِدْهُم بِهِ جِهَادًا كَبِيرًا

     Al-Furqaan / The Criterion (25: 52) Therefore listen/obey not to the Kafirin, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness.

     The above verse is about not doing Da’wah to the Kafirin because it is pointless to do dawah to them but striving against them to defeat their nefarious designs.

     Hud (11:36) It was revealed to Noah: "None of thy people will believe except those who have believed already! So grieve no longer over their (evil) deeds.

     After the above verse was revealed, no one believed – not even Noah’s son.

     Compare 11:36 with the post migration Medinian verses 8:32 and 33 in which Allah does not consider the majority of the Mushrikin as Kafirin or those who will not believe but people who could ask for pardon and accept belief.

     وَإِذْ قَالُوا اللَّهُمَّ إِن كَانَ هَٰذَا هُوَ الْحَقَّ مِنْ عِندِكَ فَأَمْطِرْ عَلَيْنَا حِجَارَةً مِّنَ السَّمَاءِ أَوِ ائْتِنَا بِعَذَابٍ أَلِيمٍ

    وَمَا كَانَ اللَّهُ لِيُعَذِّبَهُمْ وَأَنتَ فِيهِمْ ۚ وَمَا كَانَ اللَّهُ مُعَذِّبَهُمْ وَهُمْ يَسْتَغْفِرُونَ

     Al-Anfaal / The Spoils of War (8:32) Remember how they said: "O Allah if this is indeed the Truth from Thee, rain down on us a shower of stones from the sky, or send us a grievous penalty." (33) But Allah was not going to send them a penalty whilst thou wast amongst them; nor was He going to send it whilst they could ask for pardon.

     Not all the disbelievers are Kafir who will not believe. There are people who are disbelievers because they lack knowledge (لَّا يَعْلَمُونَ  9:6) or those who fear persecution from the Kafirin if they accept belief as is clear from 10:83 below:

    (10:83) But none believed in Moses except some children of his people, because of the fear of Pharaoh and his chiefs, lest they should persecute them; and certainly Pharaoh was mighty on the earth and one who transgressed all bounds.

    The disbelievers who are not Kafir will believe once the leaders of Kufr who are preventing them from accepting belief are removed and once they gain true knowledge.

    When the Quran uses Kafir for one who has no faith in God and has rejected belief, such a person is also Zalim, Mujrim, Fasiq, Musrif, Mufsid, Alin and Mutakabbir

    When Kafir is used for one who has rejected belief, and one who will not believe, such a person is not simply a disbeliever, but someone like Satan, Pharaoh, Abu Jahl or Abu Lahab. He/she is also a Zalim (oppressor), Mujrim (criminal), Fasiq (one who transgresses all limits of what is right), Musrif (extravagant), Mufsid (mischief monger), haughty, proud and arrogant. To quote Pickthall, “In the Qur’an I find two meanings (of a Kafir), which become one the moment that we try to realize the divine standpoint. The Kafir in the first place, is not the follower of any religion. He is the opponent of Allah’s benevolent will and purpose for mankind - therefore the disbeliever in the truth of all religions, the disbeliever in all Scriptures as of divine revelation, the disbeliever to the point of active opposition in all the Prophets (pbut) whom the Muslims are bidden to regard, without distinction, as messengers of Allah.”

    The characteristics of Pharaoh the archetype Kafir:

    L-Mus’rifīna (extravagant, given to excesses) 10:83, 44:31

    Fasiq (rebel, wicked, transgressor) 28:32,

    L-Muf’sidīna (mischievous) 7:103, 28:4,

    Khāṭiīna (sinner, wrong doer) 28:8,

    ʿĀliyan, LaʿĀlin (arrogant, tyrant) 44:31, 10:83

    Mutakabbir (arrogant, insolent, haughty, proud) 29:39, 10:75

    Kafarū Biāyāti L-Lahi (Rejecter of the signs of Allah) 8:52

    Zalim (wrong-doer, oppressor) 8:54

    A Kafir is not simply any disbeliever, but one who will not believe because of the traits described above.

    40:37 Thus was made alluring, in Pharaoh´s eyes, the evil of his deeds, and he was hindered from the Path; and the plot of Pharaoh led to nothing but perdition (for him).

    When Kafir is used in the context of a man’s faith, it acquires the most odious meaning. Kafir when used in this context, is a Zalim, Mujrim, Fasiq, Mufsid or a tyrant, sinner a pervert transgressor of all that is good and reasonable and a mischief monger. These are indeed the synonyms of Kafir in such a context. He is not simply a disbeliever but congenitally incapable of belief. He is covered with arrogance, haughtiness, selfishness, perversity etc. The type of person Allah will never bless with faith. This word does not apply to an ordinary non-Muslim or disbeliever.

    Kafir Is Not Used For the Disbelievers Even In the Very Last Verses of the Revelations

    Among the very last verses about the Mushrikin of Mecca is verse 9:5, in which Allah announces the penalty of death on those vanquished Mushrikin who had fought the Muslims violating their treaty, if they remain in Hijaz at the end of the four-month amnesty period without accepting Islam. In this verse also, such people are not referred to as Kafir or as people who will not believe, because the verse holds out the possibility that they may accept Islam. And indeed, all of them accepted Islam and no one was killed as per verse 9:5.

    To call anyone a Kafir for his beliefs involves passing a judgment. Allah did not pass such a judgment on a people among whom the Prophet had preached for 13 years, who then drove him out of Mecca, fought battles to annihilate the Muslims, violated their treaties, were vanquished eight years later, were not avenged for eighteen months after their defeat, and yet remained disbelievers. Even such people were considered potential believers and therefore not Kafir or not among those who will not believe. If such people are not called Kafir in the Quran, then how can anyone be considered as Kafir for his beliefs? It is only Allah who can judge a person as Kafir and it is not only the non-Muslims who will be so judged, but many among the Muslims who are oppressors, sinners, transgressors, mischief mongers, ingrate rebels will also be among the ranks of the Kafirin. Indeed, we have seen from the verses of the Quran that a Kafir can be from among any people including the believers. Calling a person Kafir for his beliefs when he does not have the traits of a Kafir described in the article, is derogation, slander and a travesty. Those who do so are the Zalim, Mujrim, Fasiq and Mufsid or the unjust, criminal, transgressors and mischief mongers.

    By Naseer Ahmed - 12/24/2018 11:24:11 PM



  • Aayina,
    Read the article to understand the meaning of kafir:

    1.      Revisiting the Meaning of Kafir

     And read the following articles to understand against whom and what is fighting ordained.
    By Naseer Ahmed - 12/24/2018 10:53:56 PM



  • To Nasser. Ahmed
    You remain shun is nothing new that what so called moderate Muslims do and help hardcore Muslims.
    Ctd from last comment.
    I said I disagree with Kafir as " those who will not belive" there is flaw in this, this can be said as disbeliever.
    In my opinion Mr Naseer Ahmed is keeping door open fo jihadist to elobrate who is disbeliever or " those who will no belive" in contast with Islam and will start to kill.
    While the original meaning of word which was in contast with seed hidden under the earth.
    Hatts off and person like disregards this so called moderate is because they leave the room for fascist and blood thirsty Muslims.
    The meaning which I have written is universal, explained by some layman Muslim than scholars like who like to confront with other faiths all time and this interpretation  can be applied by any person to person who is trying to hide the truth, knowingly even though they have undershood the truth.
    By Aayina - 12/24/2018 10:29:42 PM



  • Can anyone answer why did Maulana Salman Nadvi have different views in different places? First he supported isis then denied support in media and then said something else?

    Read the evidence please and answer me.

    'Recruit Sunnis for a Powerful Global Islamic Army to Fight Shias and Help Muslims in Need; Five Lakh Brave Indian Youth Will Be Provided': Maulana Salman Nadvi to Saudi Government

    http://www.newageislam.com/d/98206

    i am not much expert but I know such steps taken by such a well known maulana will harm the muslim community. Today muslims are in trouble it is more because of inability of such maulana to address the problem and solve the issue.

    By Kaniz Fatma - 12/24/2018 10:28:18 PM



  • "imposing a faith on others is not only wrong but it is inexcusable."
    This is good line of thinking agreeably to Islamic teachings. 
    By Kaniz Fatma - 12/23/2018 8:43:48 PM



  • Hats off should have read Quran 9:29 (Mohsin Khan translation, out of context since it mentions), "Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last day...and those who acknowledge not...Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdue." 

    Before reading Quran 9:29, he should also meditate Quran 9:28, "(since it mentions)...Mushrikun (Polytheists...are Najasun (impure)....".  There is no reason to assume Buddhists, Christians, Jews who believe in God and do righteous deeds to be impure or else there is no reason for him to save them since Quran 2:62, "(mentions)...

    Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve."  As Allah permits them to have no fear, he certainly saves all of them and certainly not treat them to be impure. 

    The only possible reason to think that they could be impure was these people in the past did evil things against Muslims and that was to battle against them.  As these non-Muslims who believed in God battled against Muslims, they were impure before Allah since they did evil before him, i.e. by killing Muslims. 

    No doubt they believed in Allah, he did not spare these evil doers to paradise since Quran 2:81, "(mentions)...Whosoever earns evil and his sin has surrounded him, they are dwellers of...Hell...".  As Quran 9:28, "(mentions they were)...impure (since they battled against Muslims)...", it led Quran 9:29, "(to mention)...they (had to) pay the Jizyah with willing submission..." until they had submitted to Allah with full obedience due their killing was considered to be evil in his sight.  As Buddhists, Christians and Jews are not evil in this contemporary world to stir up evil against Muslims, there is no reason to assume them to be Quran 9:28, "...Najasun (impure)..".  As none of them are impure since none continue battle against Muslims, Quran 9:29 does not apply to them. 

    Besides, as those other people who do not believe in Allah do not battle against Muslims in this modern world, none commit evil deeds.  As none commit evil deeds to kill Muslims, Quran 9:29 is not applicable to unbelievers in this modern world.  This is by virtue of Quran 9:28, "(is meant for those) Mushrikun...(who) are Najasun (impure)...(who did battle against Muslims in the past)."  Quran 2:191, "(Mohsin Khan translation - mentions the evil unbelievers in the past since it mentions)...they (first) fight you there...".  Quran 2:81 condemns these people even some might believe in Allah to be impure due to their evil intention to kill Muslims for they will have a place in hell.  Only those who believed in Allah do good deeds will have a place in paradise instead of those who believed and yet do evil to kill Muslims.  To them, they have to give jizyah due to the sins to commit.  Quran 9:29 mentions they have to be in willing submission to the truth that only those who do good deeds can go paradise instead of those who do evil, i.e. battled against Muslims.  Quran 4:90, "(Mohsin Khan translation - mentions)...if they withdraw from you, and fight not against you, and offer you peace, then Allah has opened no way for you against them." 

    As Quran 4:90 mentions Allah has opened no  way for you against them if they cease their battle against Muslims, it is irrational for Hats Off to support they can still be against them to force them to pay jiziyah.  As non-Muslims do not do evil to battle against Muslims in this modern day, it is irrational to collect jizyah from them. 

    By zuma - 12/23/2018 2:04:37 AM



  • To Naseer Ahmed.
    I am in disagreement with Naseer Ahmed wit the meaning of "Kafir(those who will not believe)"
     Kafir means ( those who will hide the truth)
    Through out the histroy people are always believers there are very less Athiest.
    Through out the history there are liars who hide the truth behind anything, likewise manuplaters in Hindu version used idols to manupalte, the true purpose of idol were defeated.
    Likewise in Abrahimc relgion when removed the idol and introduced superhuman called Allah who is formless and cannot be seen, the manuplaters find even more open ground to manuplate humans more.
    Meaning of Kafir is is simple  like black and white, the people who know and understand the truth but hide from others by Manuplating other humans.
    For manuplaters doesn't matter that it is formless God or in idol form, they will always do it.
    By Aayina - 12/23/2018 12:39:02 AM



  • Whether that Hadith is true or false,  we must know  on our own, using our own intelligence or common sense, that forcefully imposing a faith on others is not only wrong but it is inexcusable. 

    We cannot fault God if people are unable on their own to make simple distinctions between what is right and what is wrong.

    Having the ability to differentiate between right and wrong is  essential  not only for Muslims but for all human beings.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 12/22/2018 1:30:34 PM



  • When people disobeyed their prophets, those prophets sometimes complained to their lord and said:

    Our people are not listening to us, nor heeding our words, but on the contrary, are attacking us with curses and stones and are making us suffer._

    Allah almighty replied:

    As i order you, so you must do; if they listen or not is none of your concern, for your duty is only to deliver my commands. _

    Do not look after them, in order to see who is sinning, your duty is in relaying the message (tabligh), and it is mine to take account (muhasaba) - _

    On the last day, i will draw the account not before._

    Therefore, how allah almighty will deal with his people in the end is a secret belonging to him and him only.

    By nugget - 12/22/2018 6:43:02 AM



  • if such a deep, nuanced and wonderful knowledge of arabic is needed to understand the Qur'an then it is a fact that it is in favour of arabic speakers. allah is a liguistic chauvinist.

    so it is not universal.

    in fact allah in his book says that the prophet was brought in because until that point there was no arabic (arabian?) prophet.

    honesty requires that we realize there are millions upon millions of non-arabians. if the word of an imagined god is in arabic, you have lost claim to universality.
    By hats off! - 12/22/2018 5:10:19 AM



  • If one has an understanding of the Quran, he will realize that no one except those in whom Allah finds some goodness are made to listen to the Message and accept Islam (See verse 8:23).  Allah does not bless the evil with Islam and the worst are branded by Allah as Kafir (those who will not believe) in their lifetime itself and these will never believe even if they live for a thousand years. The examples from history are the Pharaoh to whom Moses was sent, Qarun, Haman, Abu Jahal, Abu Lahab, the people of Noah, Thamud, Aad and Lut destroyed by Allah etc. Where is the question of forcing evil people to accept Islam?  

    Belief is therefore the most precious gift and blessing from Allah.  Why would Allah command the Prophet to force this gift and blessing on the worst of the people?
    By Naseer Ahmed - 12/22/2018 5:09:27 AM



  • "“I have been commanded to fight some specific people until they say ‘There is no god but Allah ....”

    Obviously some specific people meant in this Hadith were those who had persecuted the Prophet and his followers for as long as 14 or 15 years in the city of Makkah."

    No matter who those specific people were and what their crimes were, if the Prophet was commanded to fight until such people were compelled to accept Islam by reciting the kalima, they are being compelled. The Prophet and Allah (nauzobillah) are then both guilty of violating "Let there be no compulsion in religion". This is preposterous and a calumny against Allah and the Prophet. There is no choice but to trash the hadith as inspired by Satan.

    It is not only the extremists who are misguided by the hadith but even scholars such as Ibn Al-Arabi, Shah Waliullah, Raza Ahmad Khan, Javed Ghamidi, Malulana Waheeduddin Khan, al-Shabi, al-Hasan, Qatadah, al-Dahhaq etc.  

    By Naseer Ahmed - 12/22/2018 4:38:56 AM



  • Hadith 2:24, "...I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah...".  Read the verse above carefully, the phrase, by Allah, is mentioned.  As the phrase, by Allah, is mentioned above, it implies the fight is only possible if Allah gives the instruction.  Again it deals with Allah's will.  The same as in Quran 2:7 (Mohsin Khan translation), "Allah has set a seal on their hearts on their hearing...".  Both of the above verses deal directly to Allah's will.  Do these verses contradict Allah's will since Quran 2:7 mentions Allah is to one to cause people not to believe and yet Hadith verse above supports he calls Apostles to destroy those whom He does not have the will to have them to believe in him?  No, it is erroneous to contradict his will contradicts between these two verses.  This is due to non-believers were violent at the time when Prophet Muhammad was around.  Quran 2:191 (Mohsin Khan translation), "(even mentions)...fight not with them...unless they (first) fight you there...if they attack you, then kill them...".  The phrase, fight not with them,...unless they (first) fight you there, in Quran 2:191 implies Muslims were facing danger with unbelievers and they were those who started to have battle with them.  If Allah did not have his will in the Hadith to call Muslims at that time to defend themselves for the battle from them, all the Muslims would have slaughtered by them.  As a result, Allah called them to slaughter them.  The phrase, unless they (first) fight you, in Quran 2:191 implies Muslims fight only if they start to battle with them.  Terrorists should not abuse these Hadith verse for their battle since non-believers nowadays are not violent as in the past to battle with Muslims.  As non-believers nowadays are not violent as in the past, this hadith verse cannot be applicable to this modern day.  Quran 4:90 (Mohsin Khan translation, mentions), "...if they withdraw from you, and fight not against you, and offer you peace, then Allah has opened no way for you against them.".  As non-believers cease in battle with Muslims, there is no reason to terrorists to stir up battle to them so as to comply with Quran 4:90.  Thus, the Hadith verse cannot be applicable to this modern day and terrorists must not abuse this verse since it has no implication to this modern day especially non-believers cease in battle against Muslims. By zuma - 12/22/2018 4:14:37 AM