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  • mr naseer ahmed at last has come completely unhinged.
    with zero takers for his "logic", he is probably this close to prophethood.
    but today there are good medicines. they can help.
    By hats off! - 4/5/2019 5:12:19 PM



  • Naseer sb. is back on his soap box, peddling his usual distortions. He says, "If he obeys the commands of Allah, then by his own saying he is acting under compulsion." I was not referring to the commands of Allah but to threats of dire punishments, which would make religion a compulsion, hence rendering such threats to be not divine but man-made intrusions.
    Naseer sb. says, "He was trying to prove that there is compulsion in religion and Allah is wrong in saying that "there is no compulsion"."
    On the contrary, I do believe that the words "there is no compulsion in religion" are from God, hence all threats of punishments for one's beliefs or disbeliefs on the Day of Judgement are man-made elaborations that run counter to God's injunction.
    It seems your evasive tactics include systematic lying about and misrepresenting my comments. 
    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 4/5/2019 12:26:06 PM



  • When GM sb is rendered speechless, he calls the other clever or whatever! He has no answer to my questions. And how can he answer them? If he obeys the commands of Allah, then by his own saying he is acting under compulsion, and if he does not obey, then by his own saying he is a disbeliever! He was trying to act clever and is caught in his own web. This is just a sample of what would happen on the Day of Judgment. Each sinner will be accused and condemned by his own self.

    He was trying to prove that there is compulsion in religion and Allah is wrong in saying that "there is no compulsion". What arrogance questioning the Ayats of Allah and how easily deflated!
    By Naseer Ahmed - 4/5/2019 3:45:29 AM



  • Naseer sb. has cleverly avoided answering the question that I had asked, which was: "What is more compelling than Allah Himself saying, 

    "Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief... ., upon them is wrath from Allah, and for them is a great punishment." 16:106"?


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 4/3/2019 1:02:52 PM



  • GM sb asks "Does Naseer sb. think that the word "compulsion" means chaining a person, dragging him to a mosque and physically forcing him to pray? "
    Good question. So, now please answer the following questions:
    1. How many times do you offer salat every day (not necessarily in a mosque)?
    2. How many times do you visit a mosque to offer salat in a week?
    3. If you offer salat every day, is it because you feel compelled to do so?
    4. If you do not offer salat, is it because you are a disbeliever?
    What is Salat or Prayer? It is performed facing Kabaa (2:149 and 150), celebrating “Allah´s praises in the manner Allah has taught you, which ye knew not before” (2:239). Congregational prayer is implied in most verses “bow down with those who bow down in worship.” Obligatory prayers are to be performed at stated time (4:103). The prayer timings for regular prayers which are obligatory are contained in verses 2:238 (Asr), 11:114 (fajr, maghrib, isha), 17:78 (Zuhar +), 24:58 (fajr and Isha), 50:39 (fajr, asr, isha). Wudhu need to be performed in the manner described in verse 5:6 or Tayamum in 4:43

    The absence of prayer and charity will lead a person to hell fire.

    (74:41) And (ask) of the Sinners:

    (42) "What led you into Hell Fire?"

    (43) They will say: "We were not of those who prayed;

    (44) "Nor were we of those who fed the indigent;

    (45) "But we used to talk vanities with vain talkers;

    By Naseer Ahmed - 4/3/2019 1:08:15 AM



  • Does Naseer sb. think that the word "compulsion" means chaining a person, dragging him to a mosque and physically forcing him to pray? It does not! The dictionary meaning is, to "force or push towards a course of action." 
    What is more compelling than Allah Himself saying, "

    Whoever disbelieves in Allah after his belief... ., upon them is wrath from Allah, and for them is a great punishment." 16:106.

    Since we all believe, "there is no compulsion in religion," many verses threatening punishment may have to be abrogated
    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 4/2/2019 12:05:44 PM



  • GM sb continues to have a problem understanding the meaning of a simple word like compulsion! He is a person "who will not understand". By Naseer Ahmed - 4/1/2019 11:58:47 PM



  • Naseer sb. says God does not prescribe any punishment for such Kafirun, Zalimun and Fasiqun because Allah has decreed in the Quran "let there be no compulsion in religion". 
    But the Quran does say, "on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty." (16:106). Has 16:106 been  abrogated?
    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 4/1/2019 1:12:16 PM



  • It may be noted that while Allah clearly calls those who do not judge by their revealed scriptures  Kafir, Zalim and Fasiq, He does not prescribe any punishment for such Kafirun, Zalimun and Fasiqun because Allah has decreed in the Quran "let there be no compulsion in religion". Maududi, Syed Qutub etc. are right when they call their governments Murtad for not judging by the Quran, but wrong when they consider them worthy of the death penalty. However, they are not among the exceptions as every sect considers the apostate worthy of the death penalty relying on abrogated paradigms of the previous scriptures.

    The problem with "Islamic Shariat", is that it is not Quranic and  includes elements from the previous scriptures which are abrogated by the Quran such as the punishment for apostasy. Moreover, the Muslim fuquha, have also misunderstood several of the Quran's legislative verses, the most notable examples being the verses covering divorce, inheritance, evidence. jiziya (not at all  a religious requirement right from the days of the Prophet). 

    Judging by the Book is therefore not the same as implementing the defective "Islamic Shariat". Most notably, wherever the "shariat' is being implemented, it is driven by harshness and not compassion. The spirit of the Quran is to overlook faults, mentor, correct and forgive and punish only the incorrigible repeated offenders who are brazen and shameless in their crimes. If the letter and spirit of the Quran is implemented, we will have an honest society free of crimes. 
    By Naseer Ahmed - 4/1/2019 1:56:52 AM



  • So many labels to describe people! Surely God has better things to do than to create so many different labels for people.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 3/30/2019 2:55:46 PM



  • By the way verses 5:44 to 47 are about the People of the Book who fail to judge by their Books. The verses that are addressed to the Prophet/Muslims are:

    (5:48) To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute;

    (49) And this (He commands): Judge thou between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they beguile thee from any of that (teaching) which Allah hath sent down to thee. And if they turn away, be assured that for some of their crime it is Allah´s purpose to punish them. And truly most men are rebellious.

    (50) Do they then seek after a judgment of (the days of) ignorance? But who, for a people whose faith is assured, can give better judgment than Allah?

    (4:105) We have sent down to thee the Book in truth, that thou mightest judge between men, as guided by Allah: so be not (used) as an advocate by those who betray their trust

    By Naseer Ahmed - 3/30/2019 8:42:33 AM



  • The correct way to say it is "some believers perform namaz and others don't".

    A Muslim is by definition one who obeys the commands of Allah and one who disobeys the commands of Allah is by definition a Kafir. Satan is the best example of a perfect believer who is also a perfect Kafir for disobeying the command of Allah and later resolving to rebel against Allah and misguide people.

    A Muslim is the opposite of Kafir and a non-Muslim is indeed by definition Kafir.

    Belief is a means to an end but not the end itself. Belief in the Quran/Torah/Bible/ the Scriptures helps us to be guided by Allah's revelations and do what Allah commands and avoid what Allah forbids or to become a Muslim.

    وَمَا أَنتَ بِهَادِي الْعُمْيِ عَن ضَلَالَتِهِمْ ۖ إِن تُسْمِعُ إِلَّا مَن يُؤْمِنُ بِآيَاتِنَا فَهُم مُّسْلِمُونَ

    (27:81) Nor can you be a guide to the blind, (to prevent them) from straying: only those will you get to listen who believe in Our Signs, and are Muslims ( Those who submit to Allah and His commands).

    A believer is one who listens or pays heed to guidance and believes in the Ayats of Allah and when the believer acts on the guidance, he becomes a Muslim.

    One who disregards the commands of Allah is Kafir/Zalim/Fasiq etc. even if he is a believer. The following verses are about believers who fail to judge by what Allah has revealed. They are Kafir/Zalim/Fasiq.

    (5:44) It was We who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (aslamu) to Allah´s will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah´s book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah has revealed, they are Kafirun.

    (45) We ordained therein for them: "Life for life, eye for eye, nose or nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself. And if any fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are Zalimun.

    (46) And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to the Muttaqin.

    (47) Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah has revealed, they are Fasiqun.

    By Naseer Ahmed - 3/30/2019 7:44:48 AM



  • Naseer sb. says, "He may be a kafir, hypocrite or an apostate but the Quran does not prescribe any punishment for them."
    But the Quran does say, "on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty." (16:106).
    We just love to label people, calling them believers, disbelievers, kafirs, mushriks, Momins etc! Let us just call everyone human beings. Let us not be so judgmental. 
    God wants us to be righteous, just, fair, compassionate and rational. Some of us are more advanced in this process than others.
    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 3/29/2019 12:26:03 PM



  • Maududi and Sayyid Qutb's takfiri concepts of Hakimiyya are very dangerous and threat to Muslims themselves.  By Haris Sohail - 3/29/2019 10:46:10 AM



  • Namaz is Farz on Muslims. Some Muslims perform Namaz while some don't, but they do believe in Farziyat of Namaz. Hence they are not Kafir.
    It is very simple. 
    By Ghulam Ghaus غلام غوث الصديقی - 3/29/2019 10:41:55 AM



  • There are too many issues mixed up in this article. Can we discuss a subject without bringing in emotionally charged words and irrelevant distractions like: Islamist, extremist, Maududi, Syed Qutub, ISIS, Takfir, killing etc. to confuse a simple issue?

    What do you call a person who acknowledges the truth in his heart but does not practice it except a hypocrite unless verse 16:106 is applicable to him?

    (16:106) Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief,- except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty.

    GGS says " As for the person who believes in the truth of the revealed law of Allah in his heart and acknowledges by his tongue that it is the revealed law of Allah, however he acts against it, he will be regarded as the believer of what Allah revealed, but he will be known simply as a non-practicing believer in this case, and it is therefore he will not be considered a Kafir according to this verse”.

    The opposite of Muslim is Kafir. The opposite of believer is disbeliever but not kafir. Only the believers acting against their beliefs are kafir. Non-believers are excused while a believer has no excuse and is certainly a kafir if he/she deliberately and willfully fails to act on his beliefs. Deliberate rejecters of the truth are not simple disbelievers. They are kafir because of their rejection while their hearts have known the truth. These are those “who will not believe”.

    A Muslim is one who acts on his beliefs else he is a kafir. He may be a non-practicing believer but it is not one's beliefs but practice that make a person a Muslim or a Kafir.

    He may be a kafir, hypocrite or an apostate but the Quran does not prescribe any punishment for them. “Let there be no compulsion in religion” is an overarching principle covering all people.

    By Naseer Ahmed - 3/29/2019 4:27:30 AM



  • the man recites shahadah and believes in the Quran but whose works are of sins which have been condemned in THe Quran, how can he be believers?!  By Critic - 3/28/2019 10:57:41 PM



  • This is very just exposition and good comparison.
    There is very important knowledge that if someone believes in revealed laws but fails to practice any of them for any reason, he can't be called Kafir, as long as he does not reject the truth of them. 
    By Kaniz Fatma - 3/28/2019 10:00:30 PM



  • We must reject outright the teachings of Maududi and Qutb as fanatical and regressive. 
    "Judge by what Allah has revealed," to me means simply, "Be just, fair, God-fearing, compassionate and rational."
    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 3/28/2019 12:59:38 PM