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19 - COMMENTS

  • Can anyone explain if the words like 'violent', 'terrorist' or 'radical' are abusive or an attribute?

    By Ghulam Ghaus Siddiqi غلام غوث الصديقي - 4/21/2019 3:09:12 AM



  • I will stand with Gulam Mohyuddin, he should not be called Apostant if he dbout certain parts of Quran, true believing of God start from Qurstioning Frozen relgious book and people in power want to kept it Frozen.

    Nasser Ahmed you cannot force him to belive that all part of Quran is truth.

    Quran was complied by humans it has bad histroy while compiling as well ((The history of Sura Tuba came in to picture at the end and is classic fraud how suddenly old man come into picture))  the truth was lost and truth of Mohmmad paigamber was also lost, this book Quran was used and compile for political Achivment and rule.

    It mixture some truth and some lie, which had happen to every other book, humans courroupt it.

    Muslims cannot keep on  claiming silly all time no single word of Quran is change, yes it is true but it not change after first complication but first Complilation itself was fraud and full of policital and power motivated, which cause death of humans still.

    By Aayina - 4/18/2019 7:10:19 PM



  • Only a slavish literalist  would call someone an apostate for rejecting words that insult Allah. If Muslims do not take on the responsibility of keeping their holy book blemish-free, who would do it? But all that Naseer sb. wants is to silence me and he has concluded that the only way to do it is to keep calling me an apostate. He has no other arguments left. He is a replica of Pakistani blasphemophobe mullahs!

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 4/17/2019 12:36:39 PM



  • Are you asking questions or taking up a position ? You are rejecting the verses which makes you an apostate. You have every right to be an apostate but then behave like one. Don't pretend to be a Muslim. You are the hypocrite who does not have the courage to openly apostatize but continue to attack the Quran pretending to be a Muslim when by the Quran itself, anyone who rejects any Ayat of the Quran is a Kafir.  By Naseer Ahmed - 4/16/2019 11:32:57 PM



  • Naseer sb. is now trying to use the Quran as a weapon of war against me! He is the hypocrite who pretends to defend the Quran when he is actually defending objectionable verses that portray God as someone who would ask people to kill other people or who would permit husbands to beat their wives "under certain circumstances". He has every right to believe that Allah wrote the war verses but he does not have any right to prohibit any questions being asked about those verses. He is like those Pakistani mullahs who would accuse one of blasphemy in order to hide their own ignorance.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 4/16/2019 1:12:13 PM



  •  Am I the only Muslim on this website defending the Quran against concerted attacks GM sb? Will Ms Kaniz Fatma respond? What does she think of GM sb's views that Allah never revealed any verse about war and all these verses are human interpolations? By Naseer Ahmed - 4/16/2019 1:42:38 AM



  • Naseer sb. has returned to his gutter and is resorting to personal insults because he has no logical arguments left. He will defend to death his vile hypothesis that God, the most gracious and the most merciful, would ask people to kill other people!

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 4/15/2019 1:02:37 PM



  • The Medinian period of wars is approximately ten years over which these verse were revealed and recited as part of the Quran and GM sb would have us believe that Allah allowed the Prophet to pass these off as His revelations and did nothing about it, while Allah was prompt to correct the Prophet of the slightest mistake he made and reproach him through a revelation! Or that we should believe that the Prophet fought wars while Allah was against all wars but was helpless to stop his belligerent Prophet who would not listen?

    The apostate exceeds all bounds in his shameless attacks on the Book, the Prophet and Allah. 
    By Naseer Ahmed - 4/15/2019 4:06:39 AM



  • Naseer sb. asks, "why does not God send a prophet to correct the fraud?"
    First of all it was not a fraud but  honest mistakes in compiling, mistaking one's thoughts for wahi etc. Secondly it is preordained that Muhammed was the last Prophet, so the idea of sending another prophet to corrrect overinclusion in the Quran is silly. But God does have solutions for all problems. He gave men enough intelligence to know right from wrong. It is sad that instead of using that intelligence you add to your depravity by questioning the faith of those who raise legitimate questions. You should be ashamed of your despicable behavior.
    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 4/13/2019 12:23:52 PM



  • GM sb,

    Assuming that what you say is right, why does not God send a prophet to correct the fraud? Why do you worship such a powerless God to whom people can ascribe their own words in His last Book and get away with it? If I may answer for you, you are not a believer in Allah, the Day of Judgment, His prophets and His Books but will not admit it because you are a hypocrite.

    You make your comments very lightly. You are in effect accusing the Prophet of impersonating Allah and falsely attributing to Allah his own thoughts to achieve his personal military objectives!

    If I were you and thought as you do, I would disown Islam on the grounds that Allah has failed to guard His words of revelation even in His last Book revealed to the last of His prophets.  However, you are not a person of such integrity and will neither own nor disown which is what makes you a hypocrite.

    When Allah says there is no compulsion in religion and you doubt complete sections of the Book, what makes you cling to Islam? By the very Book and its verses, you are a Kafir but that is OK since there is no compulsion for you to be a believer.

    (2:85) Then is it only a part of the Book that ye believe in, and do ye reject the rest? but what is the reward for those among you who behave like this but disgrace in this life?- and on the Day of Judgment they shall be consigned to the most grievous penalty. For Allah is not unmindful of what ye do.

    Very obviously, you reject the above cited verse also. So, what are you except an apostate and a hypocrite pretending to be a Muslim? And what makes you visit an Islamic website except to try and turn others into apostates like yourself?

    By Naseer Ahmed - 4/13/2019 7:21:10 AM



  • Naseer sb.,
    As they say, a fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer! For you, who can accept unbecoming words as Allah's words, there is no problem. For others they are interpolations that could have happened because the compilers of the Quran were overzealous in their work and included the words of the Prophet, who may have said them in his capacity as a commander before a battle. There may be several other similar explanations possible. But for you to make this a point to try to discomfit me shows your disinterest in  respecting God's grandeur and majesty . I suppose all slavish literalists are like that.
    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 4/12/2019 12:43:04 PM



  • The cowardly hypocrite will not say who he is accusing of interpolation.  By Naseer Ahmed - 4/12/2019 3:44:24 AM



  • Since Naseer sb. has no intelligent arguments to defend his positions, he again resorts to telling lies about me. Such a liar and smearer is not worthy to engage in a discussion. He uses the Quran not to preach peace and brotherhood but to assert superiority. He upholds the war verses in spite of the fact that the words are not befitting the Almighty. Such slavish literalism is not what we want in our exegetists.
    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 4/11/2019 4:51:08 PM



  • I say what the Quran says. GM sb is a disbeliever in Allah and His progressive revelations culminating in the revelation of the Quran to Muhammad (pbuh), the seal of the prophets.

    And what does he mean by "human interpolations" of the war related verses when the Prophet fought all his battles based upon these verses? Is he accusing the Prophet of interpolation? He  is a shameless apostate and a hypocrite pretending to be a Muslim.
    By Naseer Ahmed - 4/11/2019 12:18:59 AM



  • Naseer sb.'s answer, as usual, is to make tall claims of superiority of Islam over other religions. The day when religions could do that has long passed.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 4/10/2019 12:33:59 PM



  • The Quran contains the completed and perfected Deen. If it did not contain guidance on waging just war, and how to deal with the vanquished in victory which is what the verses 9:5 and 9:29 are about, it would have been incomplete. Please read: By Naseer Ahmed - 4/10/2019 1:55:58 AM



  • The fact that violent verses also exist in other scriptures should be no comfort to us.
    There will always be Muslims who "misinterpret" 9:5 and 9:25. Neither the Kharijites nor the ISIS lunatics were the last ones to do so.
    The fact is that such verses conflict with our vision of God as the most gracious and the most merciful. Calling them contextual does not help. God would not say them now, nor would He say them in the year 630. Men do have to fight for what they hold dear but the  concept of "holy war" is repugnant to a religion of peace. 
    Syed sahab's article does well to applaud 2:256 and 49:13. That is what Islam is all about. If we do not make clear distinctions between the truly divine verses and obvious human interpolations we leave room for future Kharijites to continue to do serious harm to our faith.
    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 4/9/2019 12:17:25 PM



  • All the war related verses have been considered while deriving the underlying principles and summarised in the article cited below:

    The Principles of War from the Quran

    By Naseer Ahmed - 4/9/2019 7:49:28 AM



  • The Quran, the fundamental source of Islam, universally aims at establishing peace and reconciliation in times of war. Yes, there took place war between early Muslims and Arab pagans, the war for which the Quran then guided the Muslims as to what they should and should not do.

    We know that there are two types of war, which can also be seen today; one that incite acts of terrorism as being played by ISIS and other to stop acts of terrorism. After 12 years of consistent patience and tolerance, the early Muslims fought against acts of terrorism practiced by the Arab pagans to the extent of getting freedom for their religious practices and their lives. This is the truth supported by historical evidences.

    Here is my article on this subject.

    http://www.newageislam.com/islamic-ideology/islam--a-religion-of-peace-or-violence?-the-evidence-in-quran--part-3/d/116145

    By Kaniz Fatma - 4/9/2019 4:07:38 AM