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Islamic Ideology (06 Jun 2019 NewAgeIslam.Com)




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  • Naseer sb.,

    Only a Taliban idiot would call me an apostate. And making a huge song and dance about 'shirk' is something that would please only the Wahhabis!


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 6/19/2019 12:54:18 PM



  • GM sb lies. I have responded to his mere affirmation comment:

    Is mere saying “we worship none but Allah” enough?

    63:1 When the Hypocrites come to you, they say, "We bear witness that thou art indeed the Messenger of Allah." Yea, Allah knows that you are indeed His Messenger, and Allah bears witness that the Hypocrites are indeed liars. (63:2) They have made their oaths a screen (for their misdeeds): thus they obstruct (men) from the Path of Allah: truly evil are their deeds.   

     What the hypocrites and the pseudo-Muslims say is only a screen for their misdeeds and their intention is to obstruct people from the path of Allah. When “shirk” for a Muslim is the gravest of all sins, he must know enough to avoid it and also enough not to accuse others falsely or without knowing enough.


    By Naseer Ahmed - 6/14/2019 11:43:42 PM

    Mere affirmations are not enough. It must reflect in your deeds. Therefore the question "what is the "shirk" in verse 18:42" is important. 

    You are both an ignoramus and apostate. Your comments in this forum are only to obstruct people from gaining a correct understanding.

    By Naseer Ahmed - 6/19/2019 2:06:17 AM



  • Naseer sb. is resorting to childish tricks since he has no logical arguments to offer. He still has not answered my comment:  "If the declaration "We worship Him and Him alone" does not affirm our tawhid, we lay ourselves open to mental enslavement by Salafi/Wahhabi zealots."


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin Faruki - 6/18/2019 1:09:08 PM



  • You are the idiotic ignoramus here GM sb who has no answer to a simple question of what is the "shirk" that is being referred to in verse 18:42. When you know nothing about the subject, you should keep shut.


    By Naseer Ahmed - 6/18/2019 4:13:28 AM



  • Naseer sb.,
    I did not answer your question because it is an idiotic question. As I said before, "
    Naseer sb. continues to quote from the Quran to support his lame arguments. This truly is an abuse of the Holy Book." But I doubt if you will ever understand that.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin Faruki - 6/17/2019 12:40:06 PM



  • It did not take much to expose GM sb's ignorance. I only had to cite an ayat and ask him to explain what was the "Shirk" the ayat was referring to. For the ignoramus that GM sb is, this was like asking a man without legs to walk! He has no answer

    His objective on this forum is only to "obstruct (men) from the Path of Allah: truly evil are their deeds".



    By Naseer Ahmed - 6/17/2019 5:17:35 AM



  • you who do not even know the meaning of "kufr" and "kuffar" are trying to palm yourself as a "scholar" of Qur' an.
    By hats off! - 6/15/2019 5:26:37 PM



  • It does not take much depth to know the lameness of Naseer sb.'s arguments. His challenging me with verse 42 shows how flimsy his arguments can be.


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin Faruki - 6/15/2019 12:59:26 PM



  • When GM sb is out of his depth he will call what the other has said "lame argument" while he is the one without legs to stand on.

    The following is one out of the fours stories narrated in Surah 18 Kahf. Can GM sb enlighten us on what is the "shirk" referred to in verse 42? Or will he say that this story is only for the Salafi/Wahhabi readers? GM sb is the one who abuses the Book. Allah and the Prophet by his impertinent comments. 

    (32) Set forth to them the parable of two men: for one of them We provided two gardens of grape-vines and surrounded them with date palms; in between the two We placed corn-fields.

    (33) Each of those gardens brought forth its produce, and failed not in the least therein: in the midst of them We caused a river to flow.

    (34) (Abundant) was the produce this man had : he said to his companion, in the course of a mutual argument: "more wealth have I than you, and more honour and power in (my following of) men."

    (35) He went into his garden in a state (of mind) unjust to his moral self: He said, "I deem not that this will ever perish,

    (36) "Nor do I deem that the Hour (of Judgment) will (ever) come: Even if I am brought back to my Lord, I shall surely find (there) something better in exchange."

    (37) His companion said to him, in the course of the argument with him: "Dost thou deny Him Who created thee out of dust, then out of a sperm-drop, then fashioned thee into a man?

    (38) "But (I think) for my part that He is Allah, My Lord, and none shall I associate with my Lord.

    (39) "Why didst thou not, as thou wentest into thy garden, say: ´Allah´s will (be done)! There is no power but with Allah!´ If thou dost see me less than thee in wealth and sons,

    (40) "It may be that my Lord will give me something better than thy garden, and that He will send on thy garden thunderbolts (by way of reckoning) from heaven, making it (but) slippery sand!-

    (41) "Or the water of the garden will run off underground so that thou wilt never be able to find it."

    (42) So his fruits (and enjoyment) were encompassed (with ruin), and he remained twisting and turning his hands over what he had spent on his property, which had (now) tumbled to pieces to its very foundations, and he could only say, "Woe is me! Would I had never ushrik (associated) with my Lord any partner!"

    (43) Nor had he numbers to help him against Allah, nor was he able to deliver himself.

    (44) There, the (only) protection comes from Allah, the True One. He is the Best to reward, and the Best to give success.



    By Naseer Ahmed - 6/15/2019 6:31:53 AM



  • Naseer sb. continues to quote from the Quran to support his lame arguments. This trulu is an abuse of the Holy Book.


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin Faruki - 6/15/2019 12:17:56 AM



  • Naseer sb. again shows his ill-bred nature calling me an apostate. Such remarks only show how unfit he is to be considered a scholar.


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin Faruki - 6/15/2019 12:14:59 AM



  • Is mere saying “we worship none but Allah” enough?

    63:1 When the Hypocrites come to you, they say, "We bear witness that thou art indeed the Messenger of Allah." Yea, Allah knows that you are indeed His Messenger, and Allah bears witness that the Hypocrites are indeed liars. (63:2) They have made their oaths a screen (for their misdeeds): thus they obstruct (men) from the Path of Allah: truly evil are their deeds.   

     What the hypocrites and the pseudo-Muslims say is only a screen for their misdeeds and their intention is to obstruct people from the path of Allah. When “shirk” for a Muslim is the gravest of all sins, he must know enough to avoid it and also enough not to accuse others falsely or without knowing enough.


    By Naseer Ahmed - 6/14/2019 11:43:42 PM



  • GM sb is a friendly apostate and Hats Off is a hostile apostate. They both lie to malign the Quran.
    They blaspheme the Quran by misrepresenting its verses while I explain these correctly. Neither of these two liars had anything to comment on the articles explaining these verses.

    By Naseer Ahmed - 6/14/2019 11:42:28 PM



  • Naseer sb.'s support of and Hats Off's condemnation of defunct and objectionable practices are equally reprehensible and take attention away from issues that New Age Muslims need to focus on.


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 6/13/2019 12:07:54 PM



  • your complete and comprehensive ignorance about just any subject under the sky will not haunt me as much as it will amuse me - and embarrass you.
    i do not need to make any stupid theories like you are impelled to do. you love sex slavery, you love jizya and you venerate a religion that enslaved, murdered and decimated your ancestors.
    so do not lecture to me about morality (or even your null theory and proof of some stupid divinity of scriptures or whatever you blurt out in your incoherent sleep) to which probably you are allergic.
    after all you think sex slavery is noble and jizya is good.
    that instantly makes your attitude a totally abhorrent human aberration whose humanity is in question.
    as i never started anything about null hypothesis, apotheosis or antithesis or even lowly 

    By hats off! - 6/13/2019 8:18:22 AM



  • Naseer sb. says, "That we worship Allah alone must reflect in our deeds and that is not very easy for most people."
    All elaborate descriptions of shirk are man-made and emanate from Wahhabi puritanical excesses. Do we need such punitive sadists to be our guides? If the declaration "We worship Him and Him alone" does not affirm our tawhid, we lay ourselves open to mental enslavement by Salafi/Wahhabi zealots.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 6/12/2019 1:20:50 PM



  • Saying that we worship Allah alone is not enough. That we worship Allah alone must reflect in our deeds and that is not very easy for most people. Why do people lie or cheat while saying that they worship Allah alone? If a person worships Allah alone, such a person will stand out in a million.



    By Naseer Ahmed - 6/12/2019 12:43:02 AM



  • Null theory will haunt Hats Off for the rest of his life because it is beyond his understanding. He speaks of Null theory and Market Research together although he cannot give a single example of the Null theory having been used in Market Research. He speaks nonsense because he does not even understand what he says!

    His understanding of the meaning of "irrational numbers" must be on the basis of the dictionary meaning of "irrational", which is perhaps why he said that these cannot be computed!

    By Naseer Ahmed - 6/12/2019 12:34:49 AM



  • your mathematical prowess is shamefully known all over the world.
    so you "proved" god's existence by using market research and null theory.
    you "proved" that religion brought us "morality" - like child marriage, taking sex slaves, slaughtering 900 jews in the course of a single night, distributing sex slaves among the soldiers, not taking slaves until there is a general slaughter in the land, marrying the wife of your adopted son, inventing a space journey to protect your reputation and so many precious gems of human depravity. and no wonder you think these obnoxious blots on the human conscience are "moral". that just shows how skewed and perverted is your own moral compass.
    then you brought out the stupid theory that the golden principle was "derived" from religions that loved slaughter and sex slavery.
    each one of these gems was shot to pieces and completely shredded, but still you think you "won". just go ahead and please yourself.
    and if you still are under the impression that irrational numbers can be 
    calculated", you need to take the IIT to court and get a refund of your tuition fees.

    By hats off! - 6/10/2019 5:40:21 PM



  • Naseer sb. quotes the Quranic verse, "We worship you alone and we seek only your help." I have been saying that our belief in that simple and powerful statement should be enough to affirm our faith in tawhid. All the pseudo-scholarly verbiage on "shirk" etc. only makes a mockery out of a simple concept.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 6/10/2019 1:13:32 PM



  • Hats Off takes rabidly extremist comments and calls them "moderate" so that he can wage his hate war against moderate Muslims!  What a deceitful anti-Islam crusader!


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 6/10/2019 1:00:59 PM



  • I don't hate you Hats Off for saying something stupid such as "Irrational numbers cannot be computed and if your Casio calculator gives the value of pi, throw it away".
    I only point out the error in your statement,  and the holes in your knowledge of mathematics because of which you hold such false beliefs.
    It is  you who hates me for knowing mathematics better,  pointing out your flaws and pinning you down.
    Likewise, I have no hate for the polytheist and neither do I consider him inferior to a monotheist. The standard to judge is deeds as I have repeatedly pointed out and not the accident of birth into a different faith.

    By Naseer Ahmed - 6/10/2019 7:01:21 AM



  • Yes, Allah does demand exclusive worship. Is there any doubt about it?
    Do you not know Surah Fateha? In verse 5 we affirm
    We worship you alone and we seek only your help.
    The mistake people make is to judge Allah as they would judge any other being. There is simply no comparison. Allah alone is worthy of worship and none other.

    By Naseer Ahmed - 6/10/2019 6:42:34 AM



  • "What then is the beginning of polytheism? It is seeking the satisfaction of one’s own lusts and desires and turning a blind eye to what is morally right."

    what a worthless bigoted, intolerant and abusive attitude! this is what islam does to otherwise normal people. it is astonishing to see the intense jew, idolator and polytheists hatred in the average india muslim who has no historical recollection of the brutal islamic conquest of india. and they align with those who looted, destroyed and sold millions of innocent people into slavery.

    scratch the surface of a "moderate" and you will find hatred of the jew, polytheists, idolators and the kuffar.

    what is so moral about a maniacal god who wants to see if you are willing to behead your son? if you are learning morality from a stupid fellow like that no wonder you think sex slavery is fine. and jizya good.

    what is monotheism? a murderous civilizational disease that was born in the middle east and spread like the plague all over the world. it destroyed the pagan european peoples, the red indians, the millions of hindus and now they are doing it all over papua new guinea.

    truely shameless and remorseless.

    By hats off! - 6/9/2019 6:23:29 PM



  • Naseer sb.'s quotations have an exact opposite effect to what he intended. God comes across as a petty satrap who insists on exclusive devotion! Instead of digging deep in such areas, we should keep it simple and unscholarly. We worship Him and Him alone. End of story!


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 6/9/2019 1:27:27 PM



  • Is Allah Jealous?

    The very idea that Allah does not forgive “shirk” because He is jealous is preposterous and shows how little we understand Allah and His religion.

    (4:26) Allah doth wish to make clear to you and to show you the ordinances of those before you; and (He doth wish to) turn to you (In Mercy): And Allah is All-knowing, All-wise. (27) Allah doth wish to Turn to you, but the wish of those who follow their lusts is that ye should turn away (from Him),- far, far away.          

    (20:12) "Verily I am thy Lord! therefore (in My presence) put off thy shoes: thou art in the sacred valley Tuwa.(13) "I have chosen thee: listen, then, to the inspiration (sent to thee). (14) "Verily, I am Allah: There is no god but I: So serve thou Me (only), and establish regular prayer for celebrating My praise.(15) "Verily the Hour is coming - My design is to keep it hidden - for every soul to receive its reward by the measure of its Endeavour. (16) "Therefore let not such as believe not therein but follow their own lusts, divert thee therefrom, lest thou perish!"..

    (28:50) But if they hearken not to thee, know that they only follow their own lusts: and who is more astray than one who follow his own lusts, devoid of guidance from Allah? for Allah guides not people given to wrong-doing.

     What Allah wants of us is to lead a moral life. Allah is the sole source of all morality and unless we orient ourselves exclusively to the source of all morality, we are likely to go astray. We therefore need to be very careful not to give in to temptation and turn away from the sole source of all morality.

    The very concept of Allah as the Creator, Sustainer, Law Giver, and Lord of the Day of Judgment, logically rules out the existence of any other god except the One and Only. What then is the beginning of polytheism? It is seeking the satisfaction of one’s own lusts and desires and turning a blind eye to what is morally right.  A morally corrupt person then seeks avenues to satisfy his lusts and pays obeisance to whatever promises to satisfy his desires. Such a person has lost his way. Allah stands for truth, justice and equity and not for aggrandizement at the cost of others which is why those who follow their own lusts move away from His religion. A person born into a polytheist family is not necessarily such a person nor a person born into a Muslim family necessarily morally upright. A person born into a polytheist family may be morally upright and not a person who pursues his own lusts and desires and therefore, I say, such a person may be forgiven by Allah while a person born into a Muslim family, who pursues his own desires and lusts is a polytheist at heart, and will end up badly in the Hereafter.

    As far as Allah is concerned, if all the people turned heedful, it would not make an iota of difference to  His Majesty, and if all turned rebellious, it would not make any difference to Him. What is Allah’s gain or loss if all end up in Heaven or Hell? It is silly therefore, even to think that Allah says anything for Himself and not for our own good. The rebellious however twist whatever Allah says and think themselves very smart judging Allah!

    It is only because Allah is Merciful that that He has given us His religion and not left us entirely at the mercy of the lustful exploiter. There cannot be a religion without rewards and punishment and it is only because Allah is Merciful, that He promises rewards to those who follow His religion and punishment for those who rebel.  Allah can force all to be good and destroy the evil without giving a long rope but then that deprives us of autonomy and we become like any other animal.

     It is not polytheism per se that Allah will punish but what leads one to it. This is why I say that Allah provides a level playing field to every person born irrespective of the faith into which the person is born.


    By Naseer Ahmed - 6/9/2019 7:42:50 AM



  • لَا قُوَّةَ إِلَّا بِاللَّهِ
    18:39 There is no power but with Allah!´
    Muslims in general, take the meaning of the above verse in a very foolish way and only believe in Allah's power and deny every other power and are therefore easily over powered by the temporal powers. 
    Tauheed to them is denial of every other power and therefore:
    Knowledge is not power
    Power does not flow from the barrel of a gun etc., etc.
    Science that speaks of wind power, power from the flowing waters, solar power, Mechanical power, Electrical Power, power from nuclear fission etc. is to them heresy which they reject!
    It is such blindness that has made us backward.
    The power of Allah is His absolute power to control everything but when Allah has Himself given autonomy, freedom and power to the people, those who make best use of what they have will dominate the World.
    Poor understanding of the meaning of Tauheed and its opposite Shirk, and the attributes of Allah is at the root of our backwardness.
    Syed Qutb's and before him Maududi's thesis is based on the "Sovereignty of Allah and end to the sovereignty of man" and no one appears to have pointed out to them that it is Allah Himself who grants sovereignty to whom He wills and asks us to submit to the rule of man! It is unbelievable that the multitudes have blindly followed these two charismatic leaders or been greatly influenced by them!
    قُلِ اللَّهُمَّ مَالِكَ الْمُلْكِ تُؤْتِي الْمُلْكَ مَن تَشَاءُ وَتَنزِعُ الْمُلْكَ مِمَّن تَشَاءُ وَتُعِزُّ مَن تَشَاءُ وَتُذِلُّ مَن تَشَاءُ ۖ بِيَدِكَ الْخَيْرُ ۖ إِنَّكَ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ
    (5:26) Say: "O Allah! Lord of Power (And Rule), Thou givest power to whom Thou pleasest, and Thou strippest off power from whom Thou pleasest: Thou enduest with honour whom Thou pleasest, and Thou bringest low whom Thou pleasest: In Thy hand is all good. Verily, over all things Thou hast power.
    Or
    وَقَالَ لَهُمْ نَبِيُّهُمْ إِنَّ اللَّهَ قَدْ بَعَثَ لَكُمْ طَالُوتَ مَلِكًا ۚ قَالُوا أَنَّىٰ يَكُونُ لَهُ الْمُلْكُ عَلَيْنَا وَنَحْنُ أَحَقُّ بِالْمُلْكِ مِنْهُ وَلَمْ يُؤْتَ سَعَةً مِّنَ الْمَالِ ۚ قَالَ إِنَّ اللَّهَ اصْطَفَاهُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَزَادَهُ بَسْطَةً فِي الْعِلْمِ وَالْجِسْمِ ۖ وَاللَّهُ يُؤْتِي مُلْكَهُ مَن يَشَاءُ ۚ وَاللَّهُ وَاسِعٌ عَلِيمٌ
    (2:247) Their Prophet said to them: "Allah hath appointed Talut as king over you." They said: "How can he exercise authority over us when we are better fitted than he to exercise authority, and he is not even gifted, with wealth in abundance?" He said: "Allah hath Chosen him above you, and hath gifted him abundantly with knowledge and bodily prowess: Allah Granteth His authority to whom He pleaseth. Allah careth for all, and He knoweth all things."

    By Naseer Ahmed - 6/7/2019 7:27:19 AM



  • Saudi government destroyed about hundred Islamic relics in Arab to prevent shirk. If someone kissed the wall of the house where the holy prophet was born they called it shirk, if they touched the tree under which holy prophet once rested with reverence they called it shirk, if Muslims kissed the walls of daily halimas,s house with reverence they it was shirk. So to prevent Muslims from shirk they destroyed the buildings even trees. At one point of time, they even decided to destroy Ghare Hira for the same reason but they did not have that powerful tank. They are sfollowing such stupid interpretation of shirk.
    By Arshad - 6/6/2019 7:37:50 PM



  • I cannot imagine that God Almighty, the Master of the Universe, the most merciful and the most gracious, would be so jealous as to make shirk an unforgivable sin, or that He would spend His time distinguishing between willful shirk and innocent shirk. It should be enough for us to say that we worship Him and Him alone. We do not have to make an elaborate law book out of it.


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 6/6/2019 1:24:57 PM