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With Our 7th Century Mind-Set, Can We Muslims Co-Exist With Other Religious Communities In Any Part Of The World?


  By Sultan Shahin, Founding Editor, New Age Islam

26 May 2016


This is apropos a regular reader of New Age Islam Mr. Raihan Nezami’s comment on another thread, reproduced below.  Mr. Nezami’s comment is important because it represents the widespread Muslim attitude of intolerance, victimhood, xenophobia, a state of denial and total lack of introspection.


As for Bajrang Dal activities which Mr. Nezami calls “Bhagwa Brigade,” -- one can imagine, contempt and hatred dripping from his eyes --  influential Hindu organisations and leaders such as Shankaracharya Adhoksha Nand Maharaj, Swami Chakrpani Maharaj, President of Akhil Bhartiya Hindu Mahasabha, and Uttam Sharma, Convenor Pragatisheel Morcha, not to speak of the media, have raised alarm on their activities and have demanded strictest actions against such organisations which are disturbing the peaceful environment of the country. The police have already registered an FIR and arrested a leader of Bajrang Dal for inciting communal hatred.


But on the other hand, Muslim ulema, leaders, intellectuals and journalists have maintained complete silence over Muslim terrorists of Indian Mujahedin, now with ISIS, calling Muslims to convert India into an Islamic country, converting other religious people by force, at the pain of death, giving them the option of conversion, Jizya or beheading. But complete silence from Muslims has greeted this declaration of centuries-old Muslim imperialist call quoting Quran and Hadees. This is what had happened, a similar silence had descended, when Indian Mujahedin had called for Jihad quoting the following verses of Quran and Hadees narrations from Bukhari and Muslim in its email to the media in May 2008:



1. (O Kaafirs!) If you demand a judgment, the judgment has then indeed, come to you; and if you desist, it will be better for you; and if you turn back (to fight), We (too) shall return back, and your forces shall avail you nothing, though they may be many, and (know) that Allah is with the believers. (Qur'an 8:19)


2.  (O Disbelievers!) We are guiltless of you and of whatever you worship besides Allah: we have rejected you, and there has arisen between us and you, enmity and hatred for ever, unless you believe in Allah and Him alone. (Qur'an 60:4)


3. O you who believe! Fight those disbelievers who are near you and let them find harshness in you and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty unto Him. (Qur’an 9: 123)


4. Go forth light armed or heavy armed and fight with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah, that is better for you if you but knew. [(Qu’ran 9: 41).


5. The hosts (of the kafireen) will all be routed and will turn and flee. [Qur’an 54: 45].


6. “I am commanded to fight the people unless they admit that there is none to be worshipped except Allah, and that Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the Messenger of Allah and establish prayers, and pay the zakah, so if they do this then they have saved their blood and wealth from me, except the rights of Islam and their accountability is towards Allah”. [Hadith narrated by Bukhari and Muslim].



God knows which century do we Muslims live in. Perhaps the seventh century, still fighting battles of Badr and Uhud. Indeed, these terrorists do talk about and remind us of these battles and ask us to remember how God had helped us then. The question arises: are we, 7th-century Muslims, with these attitudes, fit to be allowed to co-exist with other communities in the 21st century? Should the world think of boxing us into a global ghetto somewhere? Perhaps in an obscure corner of the world, or in ghettos in every country. Can we blame right wingers in Europe and America, asking for a ban on Muslims’ entry into their countries?  Can we blame non-Muslims in India for not renting out or selling houses to us in their localities?


When terrorists employ verses of Quran and narrations of Hadees (the so-called sayings of the Prophet p.b.u.h) to justify their acts of terror, it becomes mandatory for Muslims, particularly ulema to declare that these war-time verses and ahadees are contextual in nature; they were meant for those seventh century wars and do not apply to us any more in the 21st century. We are no longer guided by these war-time, contextual verses and narrations of Hadees. Have our clerics ever done that? Never. In fact, I asked Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri, one of the moderate ulema from Pakistan, during his recent visit to Delhi for the international Sufi Conclave, if these intolerant, xenophobic verses, asking us to fight, are still applicable to us.  His response was astonishing. He said: “There are no intolerant verses in Quran and yes, they are all applicable to us even today.”


India is the only non-Muslim-majority country to allow Muslims to live by their own personal law, howsoever flawed, and violative of universal human rights, only in deference to Muslims’ religious sentiments. Have you ever come across a Muslim expressing gratitude for this and other privileges we enjoy? Yes, there are problems in this country. But certainly nothing compared with what religious minorities face in Muslim-majority countries, particularly those which call themselves Islamic. After all, we are not being forcibly converted to Hinduism as are Hindus in Pakistan or Bangladesh. Saudi Arabia doesn't even allow non-Muslims to establish their own worship places. This doesn’t only violate the universal human rights charter of the UN but also the holy Quran, which is supposed to be the book Muslims follow.


The Holy Quran had asked Muslims to fight for the existence of all those worship houses, synagogues, churches, monasteries, temples where God is praised in abundance.


“…If God had not checked one set of people by means of another, there would surely have been pulled down monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques, in which the name of Allah is commemorated in abundant measure. Allah will certainly aid those who aid his (cause); —for verily Allah is full of Strength, Exalted in Might, (able to enforce His Will). (Qur'an, 22:40)


You can see that here God makes the cause of protecting worship houses of all religious communities, “monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques,” as His own cause. But have you heard any Muslim demanding Saudi Arabia or Pakistan or Bangladesh or any other Muslim country where religious minorities face persecution, to desist and follow the dictates of the Quran for religious freedom and diversity? I would have thought that if Muslims followed Quran, not to speak of the charter of The United Nations’ Universal Declaration of Human Rights, we would be fighting Jihad against Saudi government to allow other religious communities to establish their own worship houses, against Pakistan and Bangladesh to stop persecuting Hindus, Christians and Ahmadis, etc.


 Reference: (This comment appeared on another thread)

The new ISIS video claiming to be featuring Batla house victims is merely a fabricated video clip which has given a chance to the Muslim haters to spit their venom. These blind people can't see the open arms brandishing and training of the Bhagwa brigade in U.P. In their eyes, that is nationalism.

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TOTAL COMMENTS:-   225


  • Daear Aayina:

    I had a simple question for you as you used to ask dozens of questions to others.

    If Abdullah means a Muslim, Aayina means what ???

    You are a Diploma holder in manipulating the points in hundreds of way, but you will not answer a simple question where you are stuck in rough weather.

    Please don't try to involve unconcerned people in your reply. You are FAKE, accept it and don't judge others by a name.

    What 's in a name?


    By Abdullah - 8/22/2016 10:35:12 AM



  • To Abdullah
    भाई अल्ला के ९९ नाम है, तो मेरे दो होने मे क्या है।
    रेह गया असली नाम का तो हमरा इस website पे Manzural Haque नाम के पीर है, वो बोहत सारे को fake कह चूके, इस website के Editor Sultan shahin तक नक़ली है। 

    हम इस पीर Manzural Haque के कबसे मुरीद हुवे बैठे है। ऐ मेरी सच्चाइ जानते होगे, इनके मुरीद बन जावो, ये जैसे Sultan Shain fake है वैसे मेरे जैसे सारे Fake के बारे मे बता देन्ग।
    कहा सूना माफ़ करना

    By Aayina - 8/22/2016 5:33:25 AM



  • Dear Aayina
    Don't assume anyone by name as more than 50% commentators are fake by name. Take your example .... Aayina - may I assume you are an object or a robot as you like to rant the information fed in your system only.

    By Abdullah - 8/21/2016 3:11:48 AM



  • To
    Abdulla

    Well You are Muslim, Muslims are concerned with only condemning westerner for everthing, they you cannot see other biggest fascist force Saudi-Arabia, and Pakistan because of their Muslim population.

    But I am not surprised with your mindset.

    By Aayina - 8/20/2016 1:07:12 PM



  • Dear Aaina
    You are escaping from the harsh realities as such gundagiri and luteragiri are being done by US Russia France UK and other fascist forces ... latest example is SYRIA 

    By Abdullah - 8/20/2016 5:18:11 AM



  • India is the only place this gundagiri and loteragiri Muslims for centuries going had to stopped and started to change narrative of Quran and try to make peaceful under the influence of Hindus otherwise Arabs are still doing gundagiri and loteragiri, latest example is  is ISIS.

    Khudko to nahi baldlte par Quran Ko baldlte he, Indian Muslim should inspired from this quote of Iqbal to change themselves to became like ISIS, as they are saying their source is Quran, Sunnah and Hadits 

    By Aayina - 8/11/2016 3:29:27 AM



  • India was only Muslim kingdom where Muslims break as many temples they can break.

    India is the only place where Hindus of local land  fight bitterly with Muslims.

    Muslims invaded India, but then started to use marriage as tactic to remain in power otherwise muslim would have faced more tougher time, very cheap always use women's for all things to show power.

    By Aayina - 8/11/2016 3:20:54 AM



  • This is the toughest question in the syllabi - for an examiner to examine it's answer. For this reason I have to keep answering to the examiner every now and then. India allowing Muslims..., ha , ha, ha ! India was the only Muslim kingdom for 700 years to allow Hindus to live as a majority. India was made by Muslims, politically as well as geographically. On the other hand baniyagiri under British or Western tutelage does not confer residency rights. Now somebody is asking the question again. My answer is - no, because it takes two to tango ! In fact Muslims will find even harder to co-exist with the 27 th century mindset, the way the leg-spin of the other leg is trending. Only few electrons of the outer orbit may co-exist by quantum jumping to the spinner's side !
    By Manzurul Haque - 8/10/2016 11:50:23 AM



  • The second great prophet in Islam whose name is mentioned 25 times in Holy Koran. said “You shall know the truth, the truth will set you free” Sultan Sahin tries to bring us some truth so that people can live with less tension and hatred and develop good relationship with others in the 21st century.

    Muslims in the West have become less radicalised towards US and Israel. They know that US lost 400,000 soldiers in WWII to redeem the world from Nazism and fascism. Again US lost more than 100,000 soldiers in Korean and Vietnam wars in order to defeat Communism. While Soviet Union kept East Germany, US helped West Germany to establish democracy in West Germany and it became the 4th largest economy in the world, similarly Japan became 3rd  largest economy and South Korea the 11th largest. US wanted to establish democracy in Iraq as a model in the Middle East but failed miserably. Muslims with sunny-shia divide, love for dictatorship reacted differently: still no one could find an alternative leader for Bashir Assad, Saddam Hussain, or Hosni Mubarak, Colonel Gadhafi. That is the curse in the Middle East, for dictators never allow anyone to compete with them. However tiny Sri Lankan democracy found an alternative leader who now supports India not China.

    Muslims in the West also know that the total population of Jews is only 14 million against 1600 million Muslims. 6 million in US and another 6 million in Israel. The UNO after the massacre of 6 million Jews in gas chambers helped Jews to establish Israel in their ancient land where many of their prophets were born. Its area is only 9000 sq. miles compared to 5 million sq. miles of Arab lands.

    Muslims in the West ask why the ulemma is so much bothered about the plight of the Palestinians when 35 millions of Kurdish Muslims in the four adjoining Islamic countries are left in the lurch. Instead of finding a way to grant regional autonomy Turkey started bombing Kurdish Muslims. This has aggravated the already tense situation in the Middle East and received terrorist attacks in Turkish cities. Is this not a curse of Allah?.

    You shall know the truth, the truth will set you free.

    My clarion call is that we can’t claim to love Allah while we hate His creatures and abuse them.


    By Royalj - 6/21/2016 5:22:38 AM



  • Dear Aayina: I see you as a moderate intellectual concerned for the safety and progress of all. I demanded your comments as I appreciate and like to read you in any thread. अल्लाह करे जोर ए कलम और हो ज्यादा Thanks 
    By Raihan Nezami - 6/20/2016 8:19:54 AM



  • To
    Raihan Nezami

    What you want to know from me. I did not understand well.

    I have always said to you in my comments, you can disagree on me, that is should be seen as beauty of nature.

    trees, animals and lots of thing differ in look and habits even within one spices of animal and plant  differ each other.


    Not agreeing my point of view is not going to devalue you and me.

    As long as you disagree with me I am happy, but sometime I feel you are just seeing me negatively or may fearing that talking to Hindu fanatic, that is worrying for me and my Hindu community.

    You need to understand that I am Hindu( not non-Muslim)  and I write on this website, not to devalue you Muslim, but I write what I feel, if I do not feel safe or fear of Muslim, than you have to introsprect what is wrong within you and your community, 

    similarly if another person or mass of people does not feel safe or fear from me I fell I am not human, because every other animal fear from animal that has हैवानियत, I feel I am हैवान.

    Certainly I am not RSS or fanatic Bhagva member as you commented in other comment. Wearing Bhagva or Bhagvati रंग में भीगना is different than Bhagva brigade.

    By Aayina - 6/20/2016 4:55:53 AM



  • Mr Aayina: I'm still waiting for your response upon my last comment replying to some of your points.
    By Raihan Nezami - 6/18/2016 4:57:46 PM



  • Excellent article. It requires lot of courage. 

    What makes us different from all other species is our intelligence. It is intelligence that helps us establish what is right and what is wrong. Right and Wrong are the tools that were given to us by Allah the Creator of the Universe to elucidate through the times of times, how to survive and thrive. Intelligent people will always ask the right kind of question. Mr. Sultan Sahin asks the following questions:

    With Our 7th Century Mind-Set, Can We Muslims Co-Exist With Other Religious Communities In Any Part Of The World? Can we blame right wingers in Europe and America, asking for a ban on Muslims’ entry into their countries? Will Indian Ulema respond to the outrage of ISIS? (The horror scenes, styles of killing, sexual slavery etc.)

    The problem that many of us face is Madrasa education doesn't encourage asking questions nor critical thinking.

    Those who claim to love Allah should desist from harming His most beautiful creation, whether by killing the apostates or  others.
    excellent

    By Royalj - 6/17/2016 12:32:03 PM



  • Dear Aayina
    I agree with you on the point of the Muslims' intolerant behaviour towards minority that's evident by the recent killing of a Hindu saint in Bangladesh as well as in Pakistan since long ago and other Muslims' majority states as well. 
    Your concern about Muslim's outnumbering the Hindus in India is irrational as in the light of the fact that the Muslim's financial status in our country is so weak that they are equal to Schedule Tribes in jobs percentage, monitory share of the country. In present situation, the Muslims can't feed more than one or two kids, how stupid is this idea that twenty crore Muslims will try to outnumber hundred crore Hindus by producing more kids to take over the country.
    If Mr Togaria or Mr Singhal express this concern, it's digestable as it's an important ploy of their anti-Muslim strategy, but I can't expect from an educated person like you.
    I differ from you on the point of Love Jihad -  the name given by RSS group to the inter-caste marriages in India. The negative impact of this political tool being used by RSS and AIMIM for the vote bank strategy will never allow our cultures to assimilate in near future. I don't think our youth will involve in such stupid inter-caste love-affairs or even arranged-marriages which will prove to be fatal for their lives and divisive for the society and country as well. Our prime minister is obtaining massive accolades and standing ovations in U.S for scientific and nuclear achievements, but we are far from being considered one community assimilated in real sense and showing unity in diversity.
    Our youth are not going to risk their lives for the sake of LOVE which may be blind, but they aren't........

    By Raihan Nezami - 6/8/2016 3:04:22 PM



  • To
    Raihan Nezami

    The co-existence of Muslims and Hindu will only exist until Muslim will outnumber Hindus, as we Hindu as majority do not mind it, but with Muslims as majority  it is not possible.

    We had Pakistan and Bangladesh created with minority Hindus as well like Muslims in India stayed back with Idea of co-existence.

    May be your Indian Muslim forefathers had different choice than current Indian Muslim generation, even if they want to stay they are waiting to outnumber Hindus.

    Muslim in majority never allowed to live minority in same equality as Muslims.

    Kashmiri pandit were thrown out of Kashmir there is no out cry for that from Indian muslim sides, but for Gujarat or Muzaffarnagar and lot others is lots of outcry by so called Indian Muslims.

    Muslims in nature cannot be secular and democratic.

    About MUSLIM LOVE BOY: Here is understanding from long history of living with Indian Muslim, if Muslim boy fell in love with girl of other faith than she has to convert to Muslim, many times girl is not brain washed to convert but made sure kids will be certainly be Muslim, that is the reason I have written that we can co-exist but in seperate group (in seperate Mohllas) not as neighbour.

    There can be exception were even child is allowed to follow any religion he or she want even if father is Muslim. 

    Well you can deny the fact you can

    let me clear I am not supporter of RSS or any extreme Hindu Idelogical group.

    I think the day Hindu became like Muslim that any one married to Hindu has to convert to Hindu or child must, it will start downfall of Hindus ideologically, intelcually and morally as well.

    Well Muslim can follow their arrogance.

    Their can be lot of atrocities happen to Muslims in India but that does not mean that their irrational arrogance behaviours in relation to marriage cannot be condemnable.


    By Aayina - 6/8/2016 2:02:28 AM



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