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Action Points for Defeating the Extremist Ideology

 

 

By Naseer Ahmed, New Age Islam

09 April, 2015

The extremist ideology is not very much different from the current state of the defective Islamic theology of all sects. The extremists are only extreme in their actions and it is not without justification that the Islamophobes call them more Muslim than the “moderates”. It is therefore impossible for the moderates to defeat the extremists ideologically, without accepting and correcting their defective theology.

The extremists act on the following presumptions which find support in the defective Islamic theology of every sect.

1.            All those who are not followers of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) are “Kafir”

2.            The Prophet was fighting battles against the “Kafirin” to end “Kufr”

3.            Apostates of Islam deserve the death penalty

The extremists cannot be defeated ideologically unless all the above three presumptions which have become the accepted doctrines of Islamic theology and taught in seminaries are rejected and the Islamic theology cleansed of this utter nonsense.

The correct position is:

1.            Only the oppressors and persecutors are Kafir. In the temporal sphere, the term Kafir is faith neutral. 

2.            The Prophet fought battles only against the oppressors to end religious persecution. The Quran does not sanction waging war to end “disbelief” since there is no compulsion in religion.

3.            There is no punishment prescribed in the Quran for apostasy or blasphemy.

Each issue is covered exhaustively in my articles with full evidence from the Quran.

Who Is A Kafir In The Quran? (Part 1): 'Kafir,' 'Mushrik' and 'Idolater' are not synonyms

Who Is A Kafir In The Quran? (Part 2): Muslim– Non-Muslim Relationship

Who Is A Kafir In The Quran? (Part 3): Why Kufr Is A Relative Concept While Shirk, Idol Worship Etc. Have Fixed Meanings

Who is a Kafir in the Quran? (Part 4) Defining Kufr

The Story of the Prophetic Mission of Muhammad (pbuh) in the Qur’an (Concluding Part) Summary

The action point is to build consensus on these points so that the extremists are truly isolated and defeated. Right now, everyone starting from Al Azhar is only paying lip service. We must demand that every important seminary come clean on their position on each of the three points. This will not be easy. There will be debate and discussion but let there be transparency in place of the hypocrisy of paying only lip service. I urge the Government of India to initiate this process. This is in the interest of every Muslim and every citizen of the country. The seminaries of India can lead the world in ending the scourge of extremism besides correcting the defective doctrines based on a very parochial interpretation that goes against the clear word and message of the Quran. Let us free the Quran from centuries of Kufr heaped on it by poor scholarship that values parochialism over the truth.

URL:   http://www.newageislam.com/islam,terrorism-and-jihad/naseer-ahmed,-new-age-islam/action-points-for-defeating-the-extremist-ideology/d/102366

 




TOTAL COMMENTS:-   40


  • Sadaf,

    The other articles which cover a comprehensive agenda for reform are:


    By Naseer Ahmed - 7/5/2015 1:14:42 PM



  • Agreed cent per cent. This is what I too have been saying.
    By sadaf - 7/5/2015 10:28:06 AM



  • To: Respected Muslim Readers @ New Age Islam

     

    As-Salaam Alay-Kum

     

    This brief note is to inform all of you that a response to Dr. Javed Jamil by Muhammad Yunus Saheb is posted on http://myfellowmuslims.com. The first paragraph reads as follows:

      

    The Issues Confronting Muslim Intellectuals

     

    “I have read your presentation at the AMU Conference on the ‘Intellectual Crisis of Muslim Ummah’. I must admit that you have courage and clarity of thinking to, loudly question: “What for they killed 2 million people in between the day of the blast and the death of the mastermind?

     

    Another letter which might be of interest, is the one addressed to Imam Akmal M. Muhammad, Co-founder/Chairman/CEO - The Islamic Freedom Foundation, Inc. based in Silver Spring, Maryland by Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia as follows:

     

    My Two Cents Worth

     

    “What is the point in launching a total ideological onslaught upon the “New World Order”? Certainly, the so-called “Muslim Intellectuals” do not expect the “Uneducated Brutes, in our midst to show us the right path!”

     

    Note that after learning from the experience of “Unknown Characters,” making comments on the New Age Islam forum, therefore, it was decided that “No Comments,” will be the rule of the blog. It is not that “Freedom of Expression, is not appreciated. It is in fact, the “Known Facts,” that many “Intellectual Bigots, have nothing better to do in life than to disrupt any healthy debate concerning the sensitive issues pertaining to the religion of Islam.  

     

    Very respectfully yours,

     

    Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia  

     

    A Pen1  www.myfellowmuslims.com

    http://www.wethemoderatemuslims.com

    http://www.readingisliving.com


    By Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia - 4/11/2015 1:38:58 PM



  • Dear Muhammad Yunus,

    The following is from your article:

    The Hindus are not ‘the Mushrikin’ Mentioned in the Qur’an

    http://www.newageislam.com/interfaith-dialogue/hindus-are-not-‘the-mushrikin’-mentioned-in-the-qur’an/d/5655

    “The present day Islamophobia driven greenhorn scholarship draws on the Qur’anic verses with exhortations to kill the Mushriks (technically ‘mushrikin’, translated as unbelievers, disbelievers, idol worshippers) to project Islam as a violent religion that permits killing the ‘Mushriks’. Some radical groups in India fan communal hatred and violence by quoting these verses, applying the word ‘al-mushrikin’ to the Hindus.

    You are in agreement therefore as to what in our “greenhorn scholarship” is the cause of communalism and extremism. Your article incidentally makes no distinction and assumes mushrik, unbeliever, disbeliever, and idol worshipers to be synonyms.

    I therefore find it surprising that my efforts to clear the air to remove the cause of hatred, communalism and extremism are not supported by you. This problem will remain even after you have wiped out the ISIS with your excellent solution. Moreover, what you choose to call greenhorn scholarship is part of our theology and taught in the seminaries. These are the fault lines in our theology that have been used systematically as part of a plan (Bernard Lewis) by the US and its associates to fan Muslim fundamentalism to achieve their political ends. The roots of religious extremism lie in our defective theology. Unless we uncover the truth and bring it out in the open and compel our seminaries to acknowledge the flaws in our theology and correct them, Muslims will become the pariahs of society.


    By Naseer Ahmed - 4/11/2015 7:41:52 AM



  • Dear Muhammad Yunus,


    In case you have a problem locating the discussion on verses 8:36 to 8:38 I am repasting here the part of my comment addressed to you which provides the link. Please do read the article if you have not read it.

    Please read my article: The Story of the Prophetic Mission of Muhammad (pbuh) in the Qu’ran (Concluding Part) Summary in which I have shown that For 14 translators, it is desist from “Unbelief” in verse 8:38 or its equivalent which implies that the Prophet (pbuh) was fighting against the kafirin to end kufr and not against the Religious persecutors to end persecution. They are: Yusuf Ali (from Unbelief), Al'-Muntakhab (renounce infidelity, desist from evil purpose and turn to Allah), Ali Unal: (to disbelieve themselves and prevent others from entering the fold of Islam), Muhammad Taqi Usmani (from infidelity), Syed Vickar Ahamed (from disbelief),Farook Malik (from unbelief), Dr Munir Munshey (their skepticism), Dr. M Tahirul Qadri (from their blasphemous acts), Ali Quli Qarai [faithlessness], Dr Kamal Omar (from their blasphemous acts), Thanvi (kufr), Raza Ahmad Khan Barelvi (kufr se baaz aye aur islam laye). Al Jalalayan: desist from unbelief and from waging war against the Prophet, Ibn Kathir: (Say to those who have disbelieved, if they cease...) the disbelief, defiance and stubbornness they indulge in, and embrace Islam, obedience and repentance.



    By Naseer Ahmed - 4/11/2015 12:38:06 AM



  • To: Respected Muslim Readers @ New Age Islam

    As-Salaam Alay-Kum

    Naseer Ahmed Saheb wrote to Muhammad Yunus Saheb as follows:

    “Verses 8:36 to 8:38 have been thoroughly analyzed in my article to which a link is provided. If you have any comment on it you should make it. You make no comment on it and bring in your own translation to show that you have correctly translated it. You do not even show the intention to read and understand what I have written and comment on it!”

    Let’s collectively look at the following articles:

     

    Who Is A Kafir In The Quran? (Part 1): 'Kafir,' 'Mushrik' And 'Idolater' Are Not Synonyms

    http://www.newageislam.com/islam-and-pluralism/who-is-a-kafir-in-the-quran?-(part-1)---kafir,---mushrik--and--idolater--are-not-synonyms/d/101509

    No mention of Verses - 8:36 to 8:38

     

    Who Is A Kafir In The Quran? (Part 2): Muslim– Non-Muslim Relationship

    http://www.newageislam.com/islam-and-pluralism/who-is-a-kafir-in-the-quran?-(part-2)--muslim–-non-muslim-relationship/d/101525

    Yes, Verses 8:38 & 39 is mentioned in this article as follows:

    (8:38) Say to the kafaru (the people who fought the Muslims in the battle of Badr), if (now) they desist (from practicing oppression), their past would be forgiven them; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them). (39) And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do.”

     

    Who Is A Kafir In The Quran? (Part 3): Why Kufr Is A Relative Concept While Shirk, Idol Worship Etc. Have Fixed Meanings

    http://www.newageislam.com/islam-and-pluralism/who-is-a-kafir-in-the-quran?-(part-3)--why-kufr-is-a-relative-concept-while-shirk,-idol-worship-etc-have-fixed-meanings/d/101618

    No mention of Verses - 8:36 to 8:38

     

    Who is a Kafir in the Quran? (Part 4) Defining Kufr

    http://www.newageislam.com/islam-and-pluralism/who-is-a-kafir-in-the-quran?-(part-4)-defining-kufr/d/101695

    No mention of Verses - 8:36 to 8:38

    The Much discussed and debated Medinian Verses Relating to Fighting

    Yes, just a reference is made about Verses - 8:36 to 8:39 as follows:

    “All the verses relating to fighting are for fighting in the cause of Allah. What is the meaning of fighting in the cause of Allah? It means to end religious persecution and oppression consisting of turning people out of their homes or places of worship for no other reason except their faith or hindering them from practicing their faith or torturing them for their faith. See verses 22:39, 40, 2:191 to 193, 2:217, 2:246, 4:75, 8:36-39. It also means to fight to defend any oppressed people (4:74 and 4:75)”

    Well then, how can Naseer Ahmed Saheb, so confidently declare that, “the Verses - 8:36 to 8:38 is thoroughly analyzed in my article.” It is possible that my vision is not that good at an age of 63, but I will surely appreciate if any Muslim reader will comb through the five articles as mentioned above.  

    My fellow Muslims, something is not right. For now, merely reflect upon a remark of Naseer Saheb as follows:

    I am trying to bring out the truth (???) covered under centuries of "Muslim Kufr" for changing attitudes of the Muslims without which the Muslim society is doomed. If you cannot lend a helping hand, stop obstructing and diverting peoples attention also.”

    All in all, it is the task of Sultan Shahin, Editor of New Age Islam and his dedicated staff to look into this matter. Just to be in the business of circulating the same old debates over and over again, is now proven to be sheer insanity. Worst of all, boasting about the “Truth,and then not realizing that it is a cover-up to deceive the readers is an unforgivable act, so to speak. The word to the wise is sufficient.

    Very respectfully yours,

    Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia

     

    A Pen1  www.myfellowmuslims.com

    http://www.wethemoderatemuslims.com

    http://www.readingisliving.com 


    By Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia - 4/11/2015 12:25:36 AM



  • To complete the discussion, the meaning of Kufr and Kafir in verses that deal with the spiritual dimension of Belief, Scriptures, Messengers of God, Day of Judgment and the hereafter is concerned, is fixed and it means to deny or reject the "truth" completely or partially or to disbelieve. Here the meaning is not faith neutral and denial of the Quran or any of the previous scriptures or of Muhammad or any of the previous Messengers or of the Unity of God or of the hereafter is kufr and makes a person a kafir. Active Denial and rejection is not the same as passive non-acceptance. A person may believe and follow only  his scriptures and not deny any other scripture. He is then not a kafir.

    Verses that deal with the temporal dimension have a different meaning and are completely faith neutral. Here the word Kufr and Kafir are like the words Sin and Sinner and the verse makes clear what the sin or kufr is being discussed. Therefore using the fixed meaning of "Those who reject the faith" is not only incorrect but grossly misleading.

    Let us discuss 4:36 and 4:38 once again:

    8:36 Verily, the kafaru spend their wealth to hinder (men) from the Path of Allah, and so will they continue to spend it; but in the end it will become an anguish for them. Then they will be overcome. And those who disbelieve will be gathered unto Hell.

    8:38 Say to the Kafaru, if they cease/desist  their past will be forgiven. But if they return (thereto), then the examples of those (punished) before them have already preceded (as a warning).

    From8:36, the kafaru are those who spend their wealth and efforts to hinder men from the path of Allah

    The Kufr is religious persecution or hindering men from the path of  Allah.

    These verses deal with the temporal dimension and therefore faith or lack of it is irrelevant.

    What they should desist from is then obviously their Kufr and what will be forgiven of their past is their Kufr which is defined above.

    To translate kafaru in 8:38 as:

    8:38 Say to the disbelievers (Kafaru), if they cease/desist  their past will be forgiven. But if they return (thereto), then the examples of those (punished) before them have already preceded (as a warning).

    is misleading since then to desist could be mistaken to mean to desist from disbelief and return thereto could mean return to disbelief. Even if we remove some of this confusion by saying 

    8:38 Say to the disbelievers (Kafaru), if they cease/desist (from persecution) their past will be forgiven......

    the question arises why are all the disbelievers being addressed or being stereotyped by the acts of a few persecutors? 

    The correct translation therefore is :


    8:38 Say to the Religious Persecutors  (Kafaru), if they cease/desist  their past will be forgiven......

    This is not only the correct meaning of the verse but by using faith neutral terminology the message gets universalized and applies equally to those who call themselves believer but practice religious persecution. Also there is no need to add in parenthesis what they should desist from.


    By Naseer Ahmed - 4/11/2015 12:25:00 AM



  • Dear Muhammad Yunus,

    As far as the usage of the words kufr and all its grammatical variants is concerned, I have covered the subject exhaustively in my articles by examining every verse that uses these terms and the exact sense in which it is used. The Quran gave new meanings to many words and made their meanings clear through usage itself. For example we discussed 4:36 to 4:38. Verse 4:36 uses the word kafaru and mentions the kufr of  the kafaru as "Those who hinder men from the path of Allah". The meaning of kafaru and the kufr is made clear in this verse. So what kafaru means in 4:38 is clear and desist from what what kufr is also clear. Also what "fitnah" means in 4:39 is also clear. Quran defines the words clearly and we do not have to rely on any dictionary or common usage which can only mislead us.

    As far as your article:
     

    is concerned, the Quran talks about shirk which is the same then and now. It also refers to the mushrikin of the Prophet's times but anything negative said is only about the kafaru among the mushrikin and never  about the mushrikin. 


    The clear distinction between the Hindus of India and the mushrikin of Mecca, is that many of the mushrikin of Mecca were kafir in that they violently opposed and obstructed the Prophet and Islam and the battles were fought to end their religious persecution. The Hindus of India are not kafir and Muslims can follow their faith peacefully. India and every Secular and Democratic country can more legitimately be described as Dar al Islam than any Islamic countries where several sects of Islam are persecuted besides the persecution of the religious minorities. There are more Kafirin who call themselves Muslims in Islamic countries than in Secular Democracies which are almost totally free of the Kafirin.


    By Naseer Ahmed - 4/10/2015 11:17:19 PM



  • Agreed that 'Kufr/ Kafir are faith neutral terms. This is how they are defined in the glossary of my joint publication - Essential Message of Islam, now under posting on this site:

    Kufr: Wilful rejection or denial of any self-evident or irrefutable proposition. The Qur’an refers to its recalcitrant audience by the plural noun forms Kafirun, Kafirin, which, for want of any appropriate English counterpart have been rendered as disbelievers or deniers as appropriate. The Qur’an also connotes Kufr with cancelling or effacing something (29:7, 47:2), being thankless or ungrateful (17:27, 76:24).

    As regards, our Hindu brethren, I have done an article, Oct. 2011 that clarifies the gross misconception of conflating them with the polytheists of the Prophet's era:

    The Hindus Are Not ‘The Mushrikin’ Mentioned In the Qur’an

    http://www.newageislam.com/interfaith-dialogue/hindus-are-not-‘the-mushrikin’-mentioned-in-the-qur’an/d/5655

    Since the word Kafir in today's vocabulary has acquired a demeaning and insulting connotation, the Muslim Ulema and Imams must tell their followers not to hurl the term on their Hindu brethren on the strength of the following Qur'anic proclamation:

    “You who believe, let not any people (qawm) among you mock other people (qawm) who may be better than they are; nor should some women (ridicule) other women who may be better than they are; and do not find fault in each other, nor insult others with (insulting) nicknames. (Giving) an insulting name after embracing the faith is most wicked (fisq), and those who do not repent (after giving such nicknames to others) – it is they who are unjust” (49:11).


    By muhammad yunus - 4/10/2015 10:42:43 PM



  • Dear Muhamad Yunus,

    I am not opposing declaring the ISIS as Kharjites or bombing the mad dogs out of existence. Please continue advocating it without trying to put a spanner in what I am trying to achieve.

    And when commenting on my articles, your comment should reflect that you have read it and understood it. Your concern however is always to project your own articles. Verses 8:36 to 8:38 have been thoroughly analyzed in my article to which a link is provided. If you have any comment on it you should make it. You make no comment on it and bring in your own translation to show that you have correctly translated it. You do not even show the intention to read and understand what I have written and comment on it!

    I am trying to bring out the truth covered under centuries of  "Muslim Kufr" for changing attitudes of the Muslims without which the Muslim society is doomed. If you cannot lend a helping hand, stop obstructing and diverting peoples attention also. Let me remind you of what the Quran says on this subject.
                             In the name of Allah, the Beneficent the Merciful.

    (39:32) Who, then, doth more wrong than one who utters a lie concerning Allah, and rejects the Truth when it comes to him; is there not in Hell an abode for blasphemers?

    (33) And he who brings the Truth and he who confirms (and supports) it - such are the men who do right.

    (34) They shall have all that they wish for, in the presence of their Lord: such is the reward of those who do good:

    (35) So that Allah will turn off from them (even) the worst in their deeds and give them their reward according to the best of what they have done.

    May Allah guide us and give us the strength to bring out the Truth and support it. May Allah also reward us as promised for our efforts and save us from blaspheming the word of Allah, by attributing to Allah, what is not said by Allah. Amin.


    By Naseer Ahmed - 4/10/2015 9:59:28 PM



  • Dear Naseer Sahab,

    I am probably the only person who made objective comments on the four parts of the life/ mission of the Prophet that you recently posted. I also read your latest article and that of Sulatan Shahin Sahab on redefinition of some basic Qur'anic terms. It will be simply impossible to get the Muslim Ulama to agree on this. So, as a project to neutralize ISIS this approach, in my opinion, is non-starter. 

    If a mad dog is chasing your child, kill it rather than try to analyse what made it mad. 

    My suggestion to declare ISIS and terror outfits advocating retaliatory killing of innocent civilians is in fact in sequel to and consistent with the following concluding remark of my duly approved and authenticated jt. book published more than five years ago: 

    "Finally, as a word of reassurance, the violent extremists – the modern Kharijites6 and Qaramites,7 of Islam are no more than poisonous sediments of history, and like their counterparts of almost a millennium ago, they are bound to be increasingly marginalized, and eventually jettisoned from the world of Islam.

    6. Philip K. Hitti refers to the Kharijites (See 3 above for their evolution) as a brutally fanatic sect, who readily killed their opponents and “caused rivers of blood to flow in the first three centuries of Islam.” History of the Arabs, 1937, 10th edition; London 1993, p. 247.

    Drawing on classical sources, Abdul Quader Jilani (d. 561/1166) has described the Kharijites as a sect that disowned the community of Muslims, “raised swords against the caliphs and made lawful their blood and their wealth.” He also mentions about some of their sects justifying the killing of the children of polytheists, their own parents, and all the non-Muslims of the world. - Ghunit al-talebin, Urdu translation by Shahir Shams Barelwi, Arshad Brothers, New Delhi p.178-180

    7.        The Qaramites. Founded by Hamdan Qarmat, a power hungry Iraqi peasant, around 860 (third century of Islam), the sect grew as a Bolshevik style revolutionary movement “that developed into a most malignant growth into the body of political Islam.” Qarmat’s successors “founded an independent state on the western shore of the Persian Gulf (899), … from where they conducted a series of terrible raids on neighboring lands,.. laid waste most of lower al-Iraq, became the terror of the caliphate … and kept Syria and al-Iraq drenched in blood.”        

    Philip K. Hitt, History of the Arabs, 1937, 10th edition; London 1993, p. 445.


    By muhammad yunus - 4/10/2015 9:38:30 PM



  • Dear Readers of NAI,

    This article is about the common and widespread notions derived from mainstream Islamic theology which lead to attitudes and frames of mind conducive to extremism.

    1. The notion of who is a Kafir. Below is a link to a news report according to which

     http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/

    Hindus-cant-be-dubbed-kafir-says-Jamiat/articleshow/4179187.cms?referral=PM

    Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind, a religio-educational organisation with a hold over the Deoband seminary, said on Monday that it was not in favour of Hindus being branded as kafirs in any Islamic discourse. 

    They have  opposed Hindus being dubbed as `kafirs' and pointed out that though the term does not have any derogatory connotations, it should be avoided to promote understanding between the two communities

    "Strictly speaking, the word `kafir' only means someone not belonging to Islam; but if its use hurts anyone the term should be avoided," Jamiat spokesman and a member of the Deoband faculty, Abdul Hamid Naumani, told.

    While the spirit of accommodation is laudable and the Maulana has made his efforts to go as far as he can, he is still unable to say that no non-Muslim can be considered  a kafir by any Muslim unless the non-Muslim is clearly an enemy of Islam and the Muslims for no other reason except their faith.

    In the temporal dimension, the word kafir is faith neutral and applies even to a Muslim who is an enemy of people of any faith for no other reason other than their faith.

    In the spiritual dimension kafir means someone who rejects "true belief" and not someone who has merely not accepted but not rejected either. Who or who is not a kafir is known only to God and this is of no concern to man.

    2. I have shown 14 translators of the Quran including the heavyweights of every sect according to whose translations the Prophet fought the battles to end kufr or disbelief. Presumably therefore, this is what is taught in our seminaries and forms the notions of the mainstream of every sect.

    I have mined the entire Quran and the only cause justifiable for any fighting including the battles  the Prophet fought was to end religious persecution and remove all hindrances in the path of Islam and not to end kufr or to establish the truth of Islam etc.

    3. Read the Munir commission report and you will know that the ulema of every sect have declared every other sect as apostate. Ulema of all sects also agree that for apostasy, death is the appropriate punishment. So we know what our seminaries teach and what ideas Muslims of every sect hold

    I have shown that apostasy, blasphemy and rejection of faith are "kufr" in the spiritual dimension for which the Quran does not prescribe any punishment in this world and it is only for God to judge and punish either in this world or in the hereafter or both.
     
      
    As long as our seminaries continue to teach what they teach, the notions of the Muslims on these three points will not change. Now it is easy to see that the ideology of the extremists is not very different and why it is impossible to refute it without changing our notions on these three points.

    Therefore, no seminary has  issued a fatwa against the extremists declaring them "Khwarij" and is unlikely to do so unless compelled to do so by the ruler.
     
    What we need to do as Muslims, is to reject these three false doctrines and adopt the correct position on all three points for which we need to build the consensus. Without this, the Muslim youth will continue to remain vulnerable to the call of "Jihad" to end "kufr" and the "kafir".


    By Naseer Ahmed - 4/10/2015 9:33:20 PM



  • Good Morning Yunus Saheb,

     

    As-Salaam Alay-Kum

     

    From the mutual exchanges of thoughts between you and Nasreen Ahmed Saheb, all I can sincerely recommend to you, is to steer far away from such futile debates.

     

    Naseer Saheb is not clear about the difference between Jihad and Terrorism. In a heartbeat, he will charge, “they are parasites living off the Dargahs,” but he will not even utter any such blunt words against the brutalities of ISIS.

     

    Circulating the same old debating points seems to be beneficial for New Age Islam forum. At the same time, it gives Naseer Ahmed Saheb plenty to write about too. I reckon the Muslim readers must be enjoying the content of his articles and rebuttals highlighting about the three oft-repeated words which has been mastered by Naseer Saheb, that is, “Kufr, Kafir and Kafirin.  Sometime, I often wonder if there is life beyond these three words!

     

    Last but not the least Naseer Saheb’s mind is permanently stuck in the early battle days of Islamic history. It is obvious that no amount of bloodshed caused by the “Muslim Terrorists, will move his heart. What is more so sad is that Sultan Shahin Saheb continues to believe that vigorous circulating of the same old themes keeps the forum alive. What more can I say? I am afraid that you are back in New Age Islam only to run into another round of disappointing episode.

     

    Warmest personal regards,

     

    Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia     

       

    A Pen1  www.myfellowmuslims.com

    http://www.wethemoderatemuslims.com

    http://www.readingisliving.com


    By Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia - 4/10/2015 9:04:06 PM



  • Dear Naseer Sahab

    You are again putting words into my mouth or my vocabulary is erroneous when you say:
    So you agree that the battles were only to end the religious persecution and not to establish the truth of Islam."


    I am saying repeatedly that the battles that the Prophet was forced to fight as he was under attack from powerful Meccan armies was a fight against oppression/ persecution and this was also essential to establish Islam as a historical reality. Had he not defended his community in the major battles in the first eight years of Medinite period, the Quraysh/ his enemies would have wiped them out and Islam would have disappeared like a flash in the pan of history. 

    I do not want to repeat my I said in my last comment re declaring the ISIS as modern Kharijites - people are free to agree or disagree. 

    By muhammad yunus - 4/10/2015 8:39:16 PM



  • Good Morning Dehlvi Saheb,

     

    As-Salaam Alay-Kum

     

    Thank you for your kind response. I usually do not get entangled into the senseless debate about “created,” or “uncreated,” and “from God” or “of God.”

     

    Maulana Azad’s translation of our Holy Qur’an is seldom read by our fellow Muslims. I consider myself to be blessed, for being able to carefully study about Maulana Azad’s emphasis on the profound importance of “Divine Providence, Divine Benevolence and Divine Guidance,” in human lives.   

                                                                                                    

    Kind personal regards,

     

    Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia

     

    A Pen1  www.myfellowmuslims.com

    http://www.wethemoderatemuslims.com

    http://www.readingisliving.com


    By Mohammed Rafiq Lodhia - 4/10/2015 8:22:52 PM



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