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Islam,Terrorism and Jihad (07 Dec 2008 NewAgeIslam.Com)



Muslim Response To Mumbai Terror In Sync With The National Mood, But What Is Wrong With Our Intellectuals?




By Sultan Shahin, Editor, New Age Islam

December 07, 2008

From the very moment it became clear that the terrorists who attacked India recently in Mumbai were Pakistanis, Indian Muslim anger against Pakistan and the godfathers of terror in that county has been expressing itself in a variety of ways.  They are particularly angry that these marauders have been maligning the fair name of Islam and its image as a religion of peace. They seem to instinctively understand that Indian Muslims’ peaceful co-existence and continued integration in the national mainstream is not in the interest of Pakistan’s permanent establishment. It negates the Two-Nation Theory on which their country is ideologically based. They keep trying - and, fortunately for us, failing - to instigate communal violence on any pretext that may become available to them. They did that in the aftermath of Bombay riots in 1993. Dawood Ibrahim-organised serial blasts took 250 civilian lives and caused 700 injuries alongside massive economic disruption but India refused to fall in the Pakistani trap. Our country is displaying the same commitment to secularism now and thanks God for that.

Muslims recognise the reasons behind Pakistani desperation to attack our secularism, our tolerance and national cohesion, our growing prosperity. India presents a complete contrast to their divided house, virtually every ethnic community seeking to secede, every sect bent upon destroying every other sect, killing its members in as large numbers as possible. Only the day before yesterday a Sunni suicide-bomber killed 20 Shias in a mosque in an event that has become routine in that country. Hence the Mumbai Muslims’ refusal to bury the Pakistani dead in their graveyards, refusal to mourn the loss of Babri Masjid on December 6 this year, which has become an annual event, a sort of another Muharram since 1992. Muslim fury at a clear Pakistani attempt to foment wider violence against them resulted in their participation in large numbers in fellow-citizen’s efforts to show solidarity with the families of those who had died in the latest invasion of our territory – 40 out of 172 killed were Muslims – and condemn the barbaric atrocities while paying homage to those brave policemen and commandos who laid down their lives in the service of nation.

But as we open the Urdu newspapers on 6 th of December, we find the editorial pages recycling the same material they keep doing every year on this Moharram II day, the same bemoaning of the “shahadat”(martyrdom) of the Babri mosque, without explaining how can bricks and mortar become “shaheed”-  will they go to Jannat, one naturally wonders. You won’t  find any of these newspapers ever bemoaning the “shahadat” in Saudi Arabia of Islam’s holiest shrines and greatest heritage buildings, that were living proofs of the historicity of many events in Islam’s and Prophet Mohammad’s life (PBUH).

Then you find Rashtriya Sahara reproducing historian Amareesh Mishra’s conspiracy theories about Mumbai terror being the work of Israeli and Hindu Zionists’ handiwork. You open your mailbox and find several Muslims enthusiastically lapping up Mishraji’s theories and circulating them. Just sample one sentence of what a widely-circulated e-mail by convenor of the Mumbai-based Muslim Intellectual Forum, Firoze Mithiborwala, reads: “As far as the terrorists who attacked Mumbai are concerned, they are in all likelihood… controlled by the American CIA, the Pakistani ISI and the Israeli MOSSAD.”

As Zulkif Manzoor, a Ramanujan Fellow at the Indian Institute of Science in Bangalore has been quoted in The Hindustan Times as saying: “Such poisoned opinion has only helped to strengthen prejudices (against Muslims).” Clearly our intellectuals are forgetting that Amareesh Mishra is a Kanyakubaja Brahmin and can say what he will, but we can’t, not at this time.

Now does this mean that we are second class citizens; we don’t have the same rights as Brahmins or others? No it doesn’t mean that at all. We are and have been free to express ourselves in whatever way we will; our newspapers have been spreading venom for long - part of the reason why we have alienated ourselves to a certain extent from some sections of society and also injected cynicism in the minds of some of our youth. Mercifully, not many non-Muslims read Urdu newspapers. More mercy, not many of our own youth read Urdu newspapers either; that would have poisoned their minds beyond redemption perhaps.

We have been free and have misused our freedom to the hilt. What is different this time then? Well, as theatre personality Amir Reza Khan explained in a NDTV discussion, right now WE ARE AT WAR. And this war has been declared by a country inhabited by fellow-Muslims and not only in our name but also in the name of our religion. They have been posing as saviours of Indian Muslims and practitioners of Islam. Rules of the game are different in a war. We do, therefore, need to wear on our sleeves not only our patriotism but also a few verses of the Holy Quran preaching peace and opposing violence. As actor Shah Rukh Khan pointed out in his interview with Barkha Dutt on NDTV, it is not only Muslims in India, but all over the world who are being called upon to explain that Islam is not a religion of violence.

To those who love to spread conspiracy theories here is one that is more grounded in reality and common sense. Backed by US Imperialism, Christian crusaders and Israeli Zionism, Saudi Arabia has for decades been damaging Islam, not only destroying Islam’s heritage buildings, but also spending billions of dollars to spreading a view of Islam that says that Muslims should not only kill all non-Muslims but also those Muslims who do not believe in this murderous version of Islam. Like the known enemies of Islam from the time of the first crusades, this Saudi Islam believes that Islam spread with the power of the sword that the Prophet and his successors wielded. Now use your imagination and you can easily surmise what the Crusader, Zionist game is in protecting the Saudi regime and promoting Saudi Islam, even after 9/11, while they destroyed the only bastion of secular and tolerant Islam in the Middle East, Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, on a manifestly false pretext, and turned it into a Saudi or Iranian version of sectarian and intolerant Islam.

Fortunately the common Muslim understands the need of the hour that some of our intellectuals and journalists do not. I would appeal to Muslims to continue to walk the extra mile in condemning the Mumbai attacks and distancing themselves and their religion from Osama bin Laden’s or Hafiz Saeed’s version of Islam that has spawned Al-Qaeda, Lashkar-e-Tayyaba and similar scourges.

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TOTAL COMMENTS:-   157


  • Your article is good and an eye-opener to the fanatic-Indian-Muslims(youth) and congress-party-led pseudo-secularists, who always look for the vote-bank of Muslims in this country, not at all caring for their welfare (in true sense). Your suggestion to this people of this religious community, not become puppets in the hands of Pakistani-leaders or Talibanians, or the bigotryic-Ulema in India.

    The Indians are most religiously-toleterant people of the world (you must agree). That noble spirit of tolerance has its origin/genesis in the Hinduism (which is a way of life with anicient Dharma, evolved over thousands of years, immemorial).

    Muslims must put effort in practice the principle of co-existance, co-habitation and strive to mingle with mainstream of people, more specifically with Hindus. All measures should be taken in this direction with no loss of time.

    IT IS THE NEED OF THE HOUR THAT EACH AND EVERY MUSLIM-VOTER SHOULD BE FREED FROM THE CLUTCHES OF ULEMAS, BY NOT ISSUING FATVA ON VOTING, AND ALLOWED TO VOTE ON THE BASIS OF MERITS OF POLITICAL CANDIDATES WITH NATIONAL-INTERESTS IN VIEW.


    By Hima -



  • soc.culture.canada
    From: "Frank Arthur

    If you believe that 2000 years of Christianity has brought peace, brotherhood and happiness then you are ignorant of history. Or if Islam is a religion of peace why are Sunni Muslims & Shiite Muslims slaughter and torture each other by the tens of thousands?

    Reason and Science or Religion and superstition? All religions are based on "belief" not "facts". Things like "heaven" ,"72 virgins", "Garden of Eden with a talking snake","Angels","Ghosts","Noah's Ark", "Jesus walking onwater","witches"& "Moses getting the 10 Commandments from God" are all"beliefs" and contain not even a shred of evidence."Satan", "Red Devils with tails","exorcisms" and "endless pits of fire"? As if any of these childish things ever existed. Why would they be taught in Public Schools- or posted in Public buildings financved by people of all beliefs, other than to explain the difference between "facts" & "beliefs"? Judaism,Christianity & Islam were religions written during periods of extreme ignorance. The people who wrote these books had no knowledge of the Solar System, the fact that the Earth was round or that the Sun was the center of the Solar System, the origins of the Universe,the Decimal System of Measurements, Germs or Bacteria, Antibiotics,X-Rays,Dinosaurs and other Pre-historic animals,Natural Selection, Sciences or even that North America, China,or the Polar Ice Caps even existed. Can you imagine such a
    "belief system" based on ignorance and superstition as religions do? Or people
    who believe ancient books possess magic powers or hold "sacred truths"? I prefer reason, logic,science and ethics.Can you really believe "Lot's wife turned into a pillar of salt"?


    By Frank Arthur" -



  • Obama and Kashmir

     

    The man who will be inaugurated 44th President of the United States on January 20 has certain ideas on Kashmir that have raised concerns in India’s official and political establishment — and enthused separatist elements in Jammu & Kashmir. These ideas, which go back some way, were detailed in an October 2008 interview to Time magazine and touched upon during a December 5 interview to the same publication. Winning the war in Afghanistan, w hich increasingly looks like a pipe dream, is one of Barack Obama’s top priorities. Somewhat naively, he approaches Pakistan-India relations and the Kashmir dispute through the prism of “managing a more effective strategy in Afghanistan.” That, in his view, calls for a viable strategy with Pakistan’s civilian government, its military, and the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) to “root out militant terrorists.” And this brings Mr. Obama to the idea of “working with Pakistan and India to try to resolve the Kashmir crisis in a serious way.” Despite recognising Kashmir as “a potential tar pit diplomatically,” Mr. Obama has gone on record favouring mediatory intervention between India and Pakistan through a high-powered special envoy.

     

    These ideas may be unwelcome in New Delhi but there is no cause for alarm, assuming of course that official India can work out a clear and resolute strategy of dealing with the Kashmir issue in its external and internal dimensions. In particular, there is no need to get hot under the collar over the prospect of any return to hyphenation. India must be clear and resolute that the only way to resolve the Kashmir issue in its external dimension along with other key issues is through comprehensive bilateral talks with Pakistan. It must act on the realisation that Mr. Obama’s principal focus for quite a while will be on the economy. But as soon as the opportunity arises, New Delhi must disabuse the new administration of any notion that the Kashmir issue can be approached in the way Mr. Obama has proposed. The U.S. cannot possibly mediate between Pakistan and India on Kashmir or other critical issues unless New Delhi allows it to do so. India-Pakistan relations are in crisis. But it must be hoped that sooner than later, a sustainable solution will be found through political and diplomatic means to the issue of cross-border terrorism so that the two countries can resume their composite dialogue and get back on the cooperative track. Mr. Obama is welcome to take on the political challenge of pressuring and encouraging Islamabad to deliver on its anti-terrorism commitments on the Afghan as well as Indian fronts. But internationalisation of the Kashmir issue through Washington’s intervention must be ruled out of court.

    http://www.hindu.com/2009/01/14/stories/2009011455840800.htm


    By Syed Mohammad Sanaullah -



  • Amir Moghul salaam

    I didn’t know that you are a Mushrik  all this while I mistook you to be a Muslim my mistake, to err is human just as crying with fear is human specially in case of khalifa 1 in  Hira but crying is also Bidath right ...you people are a joke, don’t know what to say what not to say even ashamed of accepting the fact that you are Wahabis..actually there is no need to be ashamed at all, and there is no need to be disappointed  of the mercy of Allah  swt  all you have to do is say astaghfar but not as,  in your case that you continue to commit the same sin and say Allah swt forgives...doing a sin continually is greater    sin Mr Amir...And yes western Music is prohibit I am surprised you did not know?  Now don’t ask me to quote for do not believe in copy paste as you do all the time. You have the hint now find out yourself where it is prohibited in Isl


    By Humrazz -



  • in your case that you continue to commit the same sin and say Allah swt forgives...doing a sin continually is greater    sin Mr Amir...And yes western Music is prohibit I am surprised you did not know?[Humraz]

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    Dear Humraz Sahab,

    Listening to Music doesn't make any Muslim a Mushrik [Polytheist], by the way Western Music/Dance is Haram [unlawful] because Non-Muslim practice it but what about Qawwali and Sufi Dances of Whirling Rumi Dervish [Music is also used in these vices]? Is it not Haram [Unlawful] because Muslim do it or is there any permission given in Quran and Hadith regarding Sufi Music???

    Regarding Sin and Allah's Mercy:

    Lo! Allah forgiveth not that a partner should be ascribed unto Him. He forgiveth (all) save that to whom He will. Whoso ascribeth partners to Allah, he hath indeed invented a tremendous sin. [AN-NISA (WOMEN) Chapter 4 - Verse 48]

    And (remember) when Luqman said unto his son, when he was exhorting him: O my dear son! Ascribe no partners unto Allah. Lo! to ascribe partners (unto Him) is a tremendous wrong [LUQMAN (LUQMAN) Chapter 31 - Verse 13]

    On the authority of Anas (may Allah be pleased with him), who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) say: Allah the Almighty said:

    O son of Adam, so long as you call upon Me and ask of Me, I shall forgive you for what you have done, and I shall not mind. O son of Adam, were your sins to reach the clouds of the sky and were you then to ask forgiveness of Me, I would forgive you. O son of Adam, were you to come to Me with sins nearly as great as the earth and were you then to face Me, ascribing no partner to Me, I would bring you forgiveness nearly as great at it. [Tirmidhi and in Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal).


    By Aamir Mughal -



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    Amir Moghul salaam

    I didn’t know that you are a Mushrik  all this while I mistook you to be a Muslim my mistake, to err is human just as crying with fear is human specially in case of khalifa 1 in  Hira but crying is also Bidath right ...you people are a joke, don’t know what to say what not to say even ashamed of accepting the fact that you are Wahabis..actually there is no need to be ashamed at all, and there is no need to be disappointed  of the mercy of Allah  swt  all you have to do is say astaghfar but not as,  in your case that you continue to commit the same sin and say Allah swt forgives...doing a sin continually is greater    sin Mr Amir...And yes western Music is prohibit I am surprised you did not know?  Now don’t ask me to quote for do not believe in copy paste as you do all the time. You have the hint now find out yourself where it is prohibited in Islam


    By Humrazz -



  • As regard to my being worried about your salvation let me remind you that it is my duty to do Tableigh and feel care and concern for every brother in faith, my worries about your salvation can only be misplaced in case you are not a Muslim.[Humrazz]

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    Dear Humraz Sahab,

    Dont worry about my salvation because sometime Allah forgives even the worse Sinners like me:

    On the authority of Jundub (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) related:

    A man said: By Allah, Allah will not forgive So-and-so. At this Allah the Almighty said: Who is he who swears by Me that I will not forgive So-and-so? Verily I have forgiven So-and-so and have nullified your [own good] deeds (1) (or as he said [it]). [Muslim]

    A similar Hadith, which is given by Abu Dawud, indicates that the person referred to was a goldly man whose previous good deeds were brought to nought through presuming to declare that Allah would not forgive someone's bad deeds. 

    On the authority of Abu Mas'ud al-Ansari (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (may the blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said:

    A man from among those who were before you was called to account. Nothing in the way of good was found for him except that he used to have dealings with people and, being well-to-do, he would order his servants to let off the man in straitened circumstances [from repaying his debt]. He (the Prophet p.b.u.h) said that Allah said: We are worthier than you of that (of being so generous). Let him off. [Muslim, Bukhari and Nasa'i).


    By Aamir Mughal -



  •  Do you have any right to quote the Holy Quran when your Blog,  which I Visited only yesterday, besides other things, announces that you are a lover of Western Music and also has links to the Music sites, now, is this a trait of a Muslim? [Humrazz]===========================================

    Dear Humrazz Sahab,

    Please define the traits of a Muslim?

    Do you include Qawwali [Spiritual Chants] in Music or not? If not then why? If Qawwali is Halal [Lawful] then why Music is Haram [Unlawful]

    Listening to Music doesn't make you Kafir [Infidel] and it is a vice which can be forgiven by Allah but not Shirk [Polytheism] and I thank Allah for that I am not indulged in Polytheism [that is too by the Grace of Allah], because Allah says:

    Lo! Allah forgiveth not that a partner should be ascribed unto Him. He forgiveth (all) save that to whom He will. Whoso ascribeth partners to Allah, he hath indeed invented a tremendous sin. [AN-NISA (WOMEN) Chapter 4 - Verse 48]

    And (remember) when Luqman said unto his son, when he was exhorting him: O my dear son! Ascribe no partners unto Allah. Lo! to ascribe partners (unto Him) is a tremendous wrong [LUQMAN (LUQMAN) Chapter 31 - Verse 13]

    Do you have any right to quote the Holy Quran when your Blog,  which I Visited only yesterday, besides other things, announces that you are a lover of Western Music and also has links to the Music sites, now, is this a trait of a Muslim? [Humrazz]==============================================

    Dear Humrazz Sahab,

    I listen to Music without taking the cover of Sufism and I do it at my own expense and responsibility knowing the consequences in the life hereafter. By the way who will snatch this right from me of quoting Quran and Hadith and that too because of my indulgence in minor vice like Music. I wonder how would you justify the Sufi Music Festivals [in the name of Qawwalis and Qalandar Dances] held at different Shrines of so-called Saints of Allah, scattered all over India, Pakistan, Turkey and Iraq. Please do comment on my views on Music.

    Music in Islam: Lawful or Unlawful.

    http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/music-in-islam-lawful-or-unlawful.html


    By Aamir Mughal -



  • Amir Moghul Salam

     

     Are you aware that inconsistency is the trait of a liar, at one occasion you have said that you do not curse the Yazeed  lanati  because he had a  Pious Wife having origin from the family of Ahlulbait  (as per your claim) and today you have forgotten your own words and  quoted the holy Quran arguing exactly the opposite of what you said?  “Each soul earneth only on its own account, or doth any laden bear another's load. Then unto your Lord is your return and He will tell you that wherein ye differed. [Quran AL-ANAAM (CATTLE, LIVESTOCK) Chapter 6: Verse 164]” (as quoted by Amir Moghul)

     

    Don’t you feel any quilt when you indulge in such diametrically opposed behaviour just to win a debate? Do you have any right to quote the Holy Quran when your Blog,  which I Visited only yesterday, besides other things, announces that you are a lover of Western Music and also has links to the Music sites, now, is this a trait of a Muslim? Do you have the right to come up with quotations from the Hadith and the Quran Majeed when you don’t practice a single word therein? As regard to my being worried about your salvation let me remind you that it is my duty to do Tableigh and feel care and concern for every brother in faith, my worries about your salvation can only be misplaced in case you are not a Muslim.


    By Humrazz -



  • Amir Moghul salam

    So you say, that you are a Muslim, and that would means you are not a Wahabi right? If you are not a Wahabi  then I will Pray for you [Humraz]

    Dear Humraz Sahab,

    Walaikum Assalam,

    Although I am a Muslim but lets just assume that I am a Wahabi as well then what? It has nothing to do with you because you are not the Judge and Ultimate Examiner.  Religion is a Personal Thing between the man and Allah.

    You don't have to worry about my salvation on the Judgement Day because Allah says:

    That no laden one shall bear another's load, And that man hath only that for which he maketh effort, And that his effort will be seen. And afterward he will be repaid for it with fullest payment; [Quran AN-NAJM (THE STAR) Chapter 53: Verse 38 to 41]

    Say: Shall I seek another than Allah for Lord, when He is Lord of all things? Each soul earneth only on its own account, nor doth any laden bear another's load. Then unto your Lord is your return and He will tell you that wherein ye differed. [Quran AL-ANAAM (CATTLE, LIVESTOCK) Chapter 6: Verse 164]

    By the way thanks for the Prayers for my Salvation.


    By Aamir Mughal -



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    Amir Moghul salam

     

    So you say, that you are a Muslim, and that would means you are not a Wahabi right? If you are not a Wahabi then I will Pray for you that you  see the true Islam and May Allah almighty show you the right Path which is following the Prophet pbuh and his progeny only, and not involving and glorifying any tom dicks and harrys Along with the progeny of the Prophet Pbuh' I would also request you to Pray to Allah swt to guide you everytime you read a Hadith so as to discern a ture hadith from the wrong and concocted ones because only true faith and help from Allah swt can help you understand what is truth , for only Allah swt is the bestower of true faith and intelligence. Please don't read my message with any prejudice, lest you would miss the precious advice therin.


    By Humrazz -



  • I repeat that Abu Huraira was a cheat and concocter of Hadith [Humraz]

     

    Dear Humraz Sahab,

     

    You have the freedom of opinion because Allah says:

     

    There is no compulsion in religion. [AL-BAQARA (THE COW) Chapter 2 - Verse 256]

     

    Also you have not answered my question yet hence I repeat ARE YOU A WAHABI?? [Humraz]

     

    Dear Humraz Sahab,

     

    I am a Muslim and you are as well.


    By Aamir Mughal -



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    Amir moghul salam

     

    I repeat that Abu Huraira was a cheat and concocter of Hadith which is a grave sin because it has drastic result and breed people like yourself, who blindly believe everything what they read if it suits their evil designs, as regard to your argument that Abu Huraira wrote a hadith about Prophets pbuh’s love for Imam hassan as …how can you be so timid so as to believe that a concocter of hadith would write everything false..no it does not work this way …every concocter intricately weaves false with truth to make it look like all truth…so don’t be fooled by the cunning of the likes of Abu Huraira the evil concocter who was also beaten till he bled by Umar farooq for  depicting certain things which Umer farooq did not like for it projected him in bad light. Also I would request you to argue with hiqmat and faith, abstain from copying from here and there for the sake of replying because most of the things you copy and paste is already done by you more than 50 times on this site and due to this annoying habit of yours, I am sure most people skip the long material that you post. Also you have not answered my question yet hence I repeat ARE YOU A WAHABI??

     


    By HUMRAZZ -



  • Muawiya, the usurper and father of Yazeed LA had set up a cottage industry for manufacturing wrong hadith and you know why.  Because he wanted to bring Prophet SAW to his level as written by prominent Sunni scholar Maulana Shibli Nomani.  That was Muawiya 1370 years ago and today it is you and the Saudi brand of Islam,When I quote about Abu Huraira and how badly he was beaten by Caliph Umar (RA) on the back till he bled you ask for sources and all the sites are mentioned and many of them belong to your school and your land. [Faraz]

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    Dear Faraz Sahab,

    Shibli Nomani is not a proof [Hujjat] in Islam [if he has really written that what you have quoted above!]. Regarding beating of Hazrat Abu Huraira [May Allah be pleased with him] by Hazrat Omar [May Allah be pleased with him], I will again ask for a Source from where you have quoted the event.

    I have a firm belief on Hadith -e-Thaqlayn [Two Weighty Things] and Quran and Sunnah because both the Hadith are correct to the hilt. But you would have to withdraw your comment on Hazrat Abu Huraira [May Allah be pleased with him] because he has also narrated theses two very important Hadiths.

    Hazrat Abu Huraira [May Allah be pleased with him] had also narrated two very important Hadiths which Shia often quote 1 - Hadith Thaqalain [Two Weighty Things - Quran and Ahl Al Bayt] 2 - Ghadeer Khum. I wonder did Hazrat Abu Huraira [May Allah be pleased with him] concoct [God Forbid] these Hadith as well.

    References:

    Subject: Narrators of Hadith-e-Thaqalain

    14. Abu Hurayrah, `Abd al­Rahman ibn Sakhr (d. 59/679).

    Abu Bakr al­ Bazzaz,

    Shams al­ Din al­ Sakhawi,

    Jalal al­ Din al­ Suyuti,

    Ahmad ibn al­ Fadl ibn Ba Kathir,

    Nur al­Din al­ Samhudi,

    Mahmud ibn Muhammad al­ Shaykhani al­ Qadiri.

    Subject: Narrator of Ghadeer Khum:

    Haafiz Abu Bakr Khateeb Baghdadi has narrated this tradition from Abu Huraira [May Allah be pleased with him] in his book of history.

    Janab Amir Moghul...salaam:in your hurry to reply, you missed my querry,  what  is your belief? where do you stand in all this? [Humraz]

    Dear Humrazz Sahab,

    To make myself even more regarding my belief:

    Reality of Sufism - I

    http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/10/reality-of-sufism-i.html

    Reality of Sufism - II

    http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/10/reality-of-sufism-ii.html

    Reality of Sufism - III

    http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/10/reality-of-sufism-iii.html

    Reality of Sufism - IV

    http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/10/reality-of-sufism-iv.html

    Reality of Sufism - V

    http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/10/reality-of-sufism-v.html

    Reality of Sufism - VI

    http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/10/reality-of-sufism-vi.html


    By Aamir Mughal -



  • Whatever,  the answer from you is still awaited.Instead of answering my question you again quoted something out of context or should I say misquoted, "I left upon you two things of which you will never go astray after them: The Book of Allaah and my Sunnah. They will never be separated until they return to me at the Haud (the Pond)." [Saheeh Al-Jaami'] (Amir Moghul) The actual quote is “the book of Allah and my Ahley bait” not ‘sunnah’ as you have conveniently fitted to suit yourself’ I wonder why some people have been labeling you as a concoctor of religious material. [Humraz]

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    Dear Humraz Sahab,

    You and other must take back which you have said against Hazrat Abu Huraira [May Allah be pleased with him] and read. May I ask did Hazrat Abu Huraira also concoct these Hadith:

    Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying to Hasan: O Allah, behold, I love him. Thou too love him and love one who loves him.[Saheeh Muslim]

    Abu Huraira reported: I went along with Allalh's Messenger (may peace be upon him) at a time during the day but he did not talk to me and I did not talk to him until he reached Bazar of Banfi Qainuqal. He came back to the tent of Fatima and said: Is the little chap (meaning Hasan) there? We were under the impression that his mother had detained him in order to bathe him and dress him and garland him with a sweet garland. Not much time had passed that he (Hasan) came running until both of them embraced each other, thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: O Allah, I love him; love him Thou and love one who loves him (Hasan). [Saheeh Muslim]

    Dear Humraz Sahab,

    I believe in both the Hadiths Quran and Ahl Al Bayt and Quran and Sunnah. Chain of Narrations and Authenticity are as under:

    The hadith in question states that the Prophet said, upon him blessings and peace:

    “I have left among you two matters by holding fast to which, you shall never be misguided: the Book of Allah and the Sunna of His Prophet.”

    This is narrated from Anas by:

    *Abu al-Shaykh in Tabaqat al-Muhaddithin fi Asbahan (4:67 §549);

    also from `Amr ibn `Awf by:

    *Ibn `Abd al-Barr in al-Tamhid (24:331);

    and also from Ibn `Abbâs by:

    *Ibn Nasr al-Marwazi (202-294) in al-Sunna (p. 25-26 §68)

    *al-Hakim in his Mustadrak (1:93=1990 ed. 1:171 §318) who declared that all its narrators are “agreed upon” meaning in the two books of Sahih

    *al-Bayhaqi in al-Sunan al-Kubra (10:114 §20108)

    *al-I`tiqad (p. 228) by Malik in his Muwatta’. Ibn `Abd al-Barr narrated its chain in al-Tamhid (24:331) and describes it as “so famous and widespread as a Prophetic report among the people of knowledge” that it can be treated as mass-transmitted (mahfuz, ma`ruf, mashhur `an al-Nabi salla Allahu `alayhi wa-Sallam thamma ahl al-`ilm shuhratan yakadu yustaghna biha `an al-isnad)

    *Ibn Hazm who declared it sahih in al-Ihkam (6:243=6:810) even though he is overly strict in his
    criterion for soundness as stated by Shaykh Ahmad al-Ghumari in his student `Abd Allah al-Talidi’s biographical notes, Darr al-Ghamam al-Raqiq.

    Another version states:

    “I have left among you two matters by holding fast to which, you shall never be misguided: the Book of Allah and my Sunna. And these two shall never part ways until they show up at the Pond.”

    Narrated from Abu Hurayra by:

    *Ibn Shahin in al-Targhib fil-Dhikr (2:406 §528) as stated by Ahmad al-Ghumari in al-Mudawi (3:482 §3923)

    *al-Hakim in the Mustadrak (1:93=1990 ed. 1:172 §319)

    *al-Bayhaqi in al-Sunan al-Kubra (10:114 §20109)

    *al-Daraqutni in his Sunan (4:245 §149)

    *Abu Bakr al-Shafi`i in the Ghaylaniyyat as stated by al-Suyuti in the Jami` al-Saghir (§3923)

    *al-Lalika’i in Sharh Usul I`tiqad Ahl al-Sunna (1:80)

    *al-Khatib in al-Jami` li-Akhlaq al-Rawi (1983 ed.1:111=1991 ed. 2:165-166 §89) and al-Faqih
    wal-Mutafaqqih (1:94)

    *Ibn `Abd al-Barr in al-Tamhid (24:331)

    *Ibn Hazm in al-Ihkam (6:243=6:810)

    *al-Suyuti declared it hasan in al-Jami` al-Saghir (§3923).

    Also narrated mursal from `Urwa as cited by:

    *al-Suyuti in Miftah al-Janna (p. 29 §35).

    Also narrated mursal through Ibn Ishaq from `Abd Allah ibn Abi Najih by:

    *al-Tabari in his Tarikh (2:205-206)

    *Ibn Hisham in his Sira (6:8-10).

    So there are chains through at least four different Companions corresponding to two versions which have in common the wording: “I have left among you two matters by holding fast to which, you shall never be misguided: the Book of Allah and the Sunna or my Sunna.”

    The fact that this wording in the Muwatta’ is enough proof that it is sahih, as further confirmed by Ibn `Abd al-barr’s remarks. Both these sources actually reflect that there is more to Hadith-grading than the mere documentation of chains of transmission.

    Imam al-Bukhari narrates over 200 hadiths from Ibn Abi Uways. Over 170 of those are hadiths Ibn Abi Uways narrates from his maternal uncle, Imam Malik. As for his father `Abd Allah Abu Uways, he is one of the narrators of the Sunan and Muslim also uses him in his Sahih. Ibn Hajar, Abu Hatim, and Ibn Ma`in all called him truthful (saduq).

    Al-Hakim followed up with another route because it came through another Companion, which strengthens the hadith. Nowhere does he declare the first hadith weak.

    Shaykh Abu al-Fadl Ahmad al-Ghumari in his book al-Mudawi li-`Ilal al-Munawi (3:482 §3923) supports the authenticity of this hadith and that his brother, Shaykh `Abd Allah ibn al-Siddiq al-Ghumari, Allah have mercy on both of them, included this hadith among the sound hadiths in his compilation of the sahih and hasan hadiths of Imam al-Suyuti’s al-Jami` al-Saghir which he titled al-Kanz al-Thamin fi Ahadith al-Nabi al-Amin salla Allahu `alayhi wa Sallam. And Allah knows best.

    The hadith in question (Quran and Sunnah) is not weak…(and it is narrated by) at least four different Companions …the other hadith (Quran and Ahl al-Bayt) is not mutawatir as I already said…the hadith is NOT mutawatir nor narrated by anywhere near even 10 Sahaba. [Therefore, a similar number of Companions narrated BOTH Hadith, with perhaps only a couple more narrating the Hadith of the Quran and Ahl al-Bayt.]

    First of all, the Hadith about the Quran and Ahl al-Bayt is not Mutawattir, nor is the Hadith about
    Quran and Sunnah considered Dhaeef (weak). Instead, both Hadith are of a very similar calibre. Secondly, we have not abandoned the Hadith about Quran and Ahl al-Bayt nor have we replaced it with the other Hadith. Instead, we believe in both Hadith; the Hadith about Quran and Sunnah was said by the Prophet in front of the larger gathering during his Farewell Sermon, and the Hadith about Quran and Ahl al-Bayt was said by the Prophet in front of the smaller gathering at Ghadir Khumm. This second Hadith was directed towards those of Medinah because it was they who would be tasked with the role of caring for the Prophet’s family after his death.


    By Aamir Mughal -



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