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The Importance of Understanding Correctly, the Attributes of Allah – Pre-destination and the question, ‘Was Muhammad (pbuh) Pre-Destined To Be The Seal Of The Prophets?’ – Part Three



By Naseer Ahmed, New Age Islam

23 February 2019

In the previous two parts, I have covered a few of the most important attributes of Allah that are widely misunderstood. In this part, I cover the nature of the Prophetic Mission which is also widely misunderstood.

The Quran says in verse 5:3

“This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion”

The essential requirement for perfecting and completing the Deen was that the Prophetic Mission was required to cover all the following four phases:

Phase 1: The peaceful propagation phase teaching co-existence with other and even hostile faiths.

Phase 2: The Prophet becoming a ruler for legislative verses to be revealed

Phase 3: Guidance covering just wars from which the principles of war can be derived.

Phase 4: Guidance on how to justly deal with the vanquished people.

Without these four phases, the Deen or religion would have been incomplete. We know that only phase 1 was covered during the Prophethood of Jesus (PBUH) which is why the Bible is like the Makki Quran. Did Allah know then that the religion would be completed and perfected with Muhammad (PBUH) even before the revelations began in 610 CE? Not with 100% certainty unless, all the subsequent events are pre-determined, and no one had any choice to do anything except what they did. Such pre-determination absolves all those who opposed the Prophet, persecuted and fought wars of any blame. Nothing was therefore pre-determined. The possibilities that such a mission would not have been the last and similar to that of Jesus (pbuh) are:

1.       The Kafirin had left the Muslims alone and not persecuted them and heeded 109:6 “To you be your religion and to me mine”. The Prophet then would have preached peacefully, and not migrated and not fought the wars against the Mushrikin. Without active opposition by the Kafirin, a large number may have accepted Islam making it the dominant religion. Eventually, all may have accepted Islam.

2.       The Prophet may have even become a ruler and the legislative verses revealed. Any war then would have been with an external aggressor but without any preceding oppression. This would have been a normal war and not a religious war against religious persecution. The Deen would have remained incomplete to be completed with a later prophet or prophets.

3.       The Kafirin had heeded (8:38) “Say to the kafaru, if (now) they desist (from religious persecution), their past would be forgiven them; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them)” after the Battle of Badr and agreed to cease religious persecution. The Prophet would then have returned to Mecca and resumed peaceful preaching. Such a scenario would have resulted in only the first 3 of the 4 phases being completed.

4.       In the Battle of Uhud, the Kafirin were successful which made them bolder and a point of no return was near at hand. In the battle of the Trench they returned with a great force and laid a siege to Medina itself to annihilate Islam and the Muslims. The point of no return had been reached

The end result was not a certainty but became so only when the Mushrikin ganged up and besieged Medina with an intention to annihilate Islam and the Muslims. It was only at this stage, that it became Allah’s responsibility to complete the Prophetic mission with complete military victory of the Muslims over their enemy. This meant that all four phases would be completed and with it the Deen of Allah, and therefore, Muhammad (pbuh) could be declared the seal of the Prophets. This is exactly when the verse 33:40 was revealed in 5 AH, during or after the Battle of the Trench, saying that Muhammad was the seal of the Prophets. Before this, if the Mushrikin had agreed to desist from religious persecution and agreed not to hinder Muslims from the path of Allah, it would have been back to 109:6 “To you be your religion and to me mine” and peaceful co-existence which may or may not have lasted. If peace had lasted the lifetime of the Prophet, then he would not have been the seal of the prophets since the Deen would have remained incomplete. This discussion underlines the createdness of the Quran. The proof of the correctness of this understanding is in the precise timing of the announcement of Muhammad as the seal of the Prophets. This was not at the beginning of revelations, but at the precise moment when it became certain that the Deen would be completed with him.

 Muslim scholarship without exception, however, takes a deterministic view, which is why they struggle with verses such as 109:6, “To you be your religion and to me mine”. Javed Ghamidi, a well-known moderate says:

" The last verse of the Surah, it must be appreciated, is not an expression of tolerance; it expresses renunciation on the part of the Prophet (sws) and a warning to the disbelievers that they must now get ready to face the consequences of their obdurate denial."

 What he is saying effectively, is that 109:6 does not mean what it says but is a veiled warning of “wait and see now what we do to you”! This is because in a deterministic view, war with the Kafirin and their annihilation is inevitable, and therefore 109:6 cannot mean what it says. The deterministic view makes Islam an immoral religion of deceit

Likewise, they have the same problem with:

(8:38) Say to the kafaru, if (now) they desist (from religious persecution), their past would be forgiven them; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them).

They twist is as follows:

 (8:38) Say to the kafaru, if (now) they desist (from disbelief and accept Islam), their past would be forgiven them; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them)

 And (8:39) And fight them on until there is no more religious persecution (fitna), and there prevail fully the deen of Allah; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do.

(The Deen of Allah is for full religious freedom and no compulsion in religion)

 Becomes:

(39) And fight them on until there is no more “shirk”, and all worship is for Allah only; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do.

 They cannot imagine a return to peaceful co-existence with the ceasing of hostilities until and unless all accepted Islam first. This is because, in a deterministic view, what was possible was only what took place and nothing else. Any other scenario is unthinkable and therefore the verses that appear to be offering a real choice, are “interpreted” in such a manner, as to remove all choice from them.

The end is also misinterpreted as offering no choice to the Mushrikin except acceptance of Islam or death while the truth is that for those who had fought the Muslims in violation of their treaty, the choice was migration, Islam or death and for the remaining it was to become Jiziya paying citizens if they wished to retain their faith. This is covered in my article:

The Nuances of Quranic The Correct Understanding of the So Called ‘Sword’ Verses of Surah Taubah

Extremism thrives for the same reason. The deterministic view moves only in one direction and cannot go back to a previous state and therefore, the Meccan verses are treated as abrogated! As a matter of fact, these are not even thought to have meant what they mean!

 Not getting the attribute of Al-Qadr right, has turned a moral religion into an immoral one. The question then is which god do we worship? The moral one or the immoral one? That is the difference it makes when we understand correctly or not, the important attributes of Allah.

The Sign of Allah is that there can be no falsehood and no contradiction in His Book. But the Muslims have made it the Book of Satan and cannot understand it without numerous contradictions, and without considering many of the verses as abrogated. Based on the most rigorous analysis and understanding of the complete Book, I testify that this is indeed the Book of Allah, without a contradiction, and no verse is abrogated. (The only exception being verse 4:176, the last verse to be revealed, contradicts 4:12, but this is intended to solve a problem of inability to deal with 4:12 alone and is deliberate. Now with better logic and mathematics, we know how to implement 4:12, 4:176 can be treated as obsolete)

The Ultimate Success of our Life

يَا أَيَّتُهَا النَّفْسُ الْمُطْمَئِنَّةُ

ارْجِعِي إِلَىٰ رَبِّكِ رَاضِيَةً مَّرْضِيَّةً

فَادْخُلِي فِي عِبَادِي

وَادْخُلِي جَنَّتِي

(89:27) To the well satisfied self (l-nafsu l-mu'ma-inatu) will be said:

(28) "Come back thou to thy Lord,- well pleased (with Allah), and well-pleasing unto Him!

(29) "Enter thou, then, among My devotees!

(30) "Yea, enter thou My Heaven!

The state of being completely at peace and pleased with Allah and Allah being completely pleased with us, can only be reached when we have understood and accepted whole-heartedly, the nature/attributes of Allah, and moulded our lives accordingly. It is we who must tune ourselves to the divine frequency, so that the same becomes our natural frequency, and our whole self resonates with the divine frequency. Our poorly tuned selves create doubts and blind us to the truth or make us resonate with the Satanic frequencies.

Correctly understanding and whole-heartedly accepting the attributes of Allah and moulding ourselves to become a perfect instrument of Allah for carrying out His purpose in creating us, is the ultimate success.

Part One of the Article:

 

The Importance of Understanding Correctly, the Attributes of Allah – Divine Will, Justice and Mercy – Part One

 

http://www.newageislam.com/islamic-ideology/naseer-ahmed,-new-age-islam/the-importance-of-understanding-correctly,-the-attributes-of-allah-–-divine-will,-justice-and-mercy-–-part-one/d/117713

 

Part Two of the Article:

The Importance of Understanding Correctly, the Attributes of Allah – Kalam, Al-Alim, Al-Qadeer, Al-Muqtadi – Part Two

http://www.newageislam.com/islamic-ideology/naseer-ahmed,-new-age-islam/the-importance-of-understanding-correctly,-the-attributes-of-allah-–-kalam,-al-alim,-al-qadeer,-al-muqtadi-–-part-two/d/117766

Naseer Ahmed is an Engineering graduate from IIT Kanpur and is an independent IT consultant after having served in both the Public and Private sector in responsible positions for over three decades. He is a frequent contributor to NewAgeIslam.com

URL: http://www.newageislam.com/islamic-ideology/naseer-ahmed,-new-age-islam/the-importance-of-understanding-correctly,-the-attributes-of-allah-–-pre-destination-and-the-question,-‘was-muhammad-(pbuh)-pre-destined-to-be-the-seal-of-the-prophets?’-–-part-three/d/117833

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TOTAL COMMENTS:-   39


  • Naseer sb. questions the relevance of my questions. Here are the two posts I was referring to:

    (1) Naseer sb.,
    Before answering my comment, you had to first call me an apostate! If you think this discussion is making you lose your mental balance, I would be quite willing to grant you a week's rest.
    It is wrong for you to call your own article "path-breaking". I have not heard anyone else calling it path-breaking.

    You did criticize earlier scriptures when you said, "All previous scriptures were about using compulsion in religion," and,  "confusion with how previous Scriptures had dealt with the Kafir".
    Your whole thesis on why compulsion was necessary with earlier scriptures is without any substance or sense. Admonition against compulsion was given to the followers of our Prophet, and it is ingenious of you to use it for your one-up-man-ship against Jews and Christians.

    You said, "Verse 13:38 also informs us that the previous Books were only for a period and not for all time." That is a lie. Verse 13:38 does not say that. We may not always fully understand comments in the Quran about other scriptures and we should not let those comments reduce our respect for the Bible or the Torah. Christians and Jews consider their books to be complete and standing on their own, and we should not dispute that.

    I have no sympathy for the Christian crusaders who made rivers of blood flow in Jerusalem, but they were not fighting kuffar. They were trying to recover their holy places from Muslim "occupation". They were of course not lovers of Islam.
    It is sheer invention on your part to say that war related verses in the older scriptures were "passed over" or "abrogated" by the Quran. Unless the Quran specifically says that such and such a verse is no longer valid, it is very presumptuous and megalomanic on your part to make such false assertions. You may have sinned by making such assertions but since I am not an expert on sin, it may be best for you to consult some knowledgeable maulvi and desist in future from crossing your limits.
    Your so-called phase 2, 3 and 4 are outside the Prophetic Mission as I have previously explained.  Your trying to create a chain of progression ending in Islam being at the pinnacle is the kind of daydreaming that the ISIS guys must be indulging in. I am quite satisfied with my Islam being a call from the desert propagating a message of peaceful co-existence,  rectitude, justice, compassion and piety.
    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 3/1/2019 1:56:27 PM.

    (2) 
    Instead of responding to the questions that I had raised in my last comment, Naseer sb. has decided to resort to silly digressions. 

    He is freely critical of verses in the Old Testament while believing that criticism of even one verse in the Quran would make one an "apostate"! He quotes the Pope making racial slurs against Muslims but does not see that their rationale for the Crusades was recovery of Christian holy places from Muslim control, and not a war on kuffar.

    He again repeats his idiotic assertion that the Quran has abrogated verses from the Torah and the Bible! When moderate Jews and Christians say that  the violent verses in their holy books are not to be taken literally, he mocks them instead of joining them and saying that the violent verses in our holy book too should not to be taken literally. 

    His criticism of  moderate Judeo-Christian scholars and moderate Islamic scholars is laughable and probably delusional. His belief that he himself has the right answers is definitely delusional.

    Naseer sb., instead of carrying on with your jingoistic diatribes, why don't you respond specifically to the points raised in my last post? Are you trying to run away from the points that I had made?

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 3/3/2019 12:49:11 PM

    As can be seen both my posts are diectly related to Naseer sb.'s preceding posts as well as the substance of his article. If he had not wasted so much time cursing me and calling me an apostate etc., he would have given a comprehensive answer to my questions by now. He should take this opportunity to do so.


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 3/17/2019 3:22:29 PM



  • GM sb says “ …. and fraudulently questioning the relevance of my questions to the article under discussion.

    I challenge the liar to establish relevance to the article. The coward will never do that because he is lying.


    By Naseer Ahmed - 3/17/2019 7:52:45 AM



  • Naseer sb. has found several devious ways of not answering the questions that would show him up as a charlatan, including abusing me, calling me an apostate etc. etc. etc. and fraudulently questioning the relevance of my questions to the article under discussion. All his evasions can be put under one label: cowardice.


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 3/16/2019 1:42:20 PM



  • The question has nothing to do with the article.  My comments have since become two more articles. So, if the question is relevant to some comment, why not seek the answers under the appropriate article? 

    Why fill up this space with his rudeness and irrelevancies? GM sb's "forays in this forum have had the sole purpose of being disruptive, derisive and rude". 

    By Naseer Ahmed - 3/16/2019 1:59:07 AM



  • It is not a rude judgmental comment. I asked legitimate questions and make relevant comments. If you do not have answers, just say so honestly. 


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 3/15/2019 6:19:23 PM



  • Why would I respond to a rude judgmental comment? I do not have to prove anything or defend myself. GM sb's "forays in this forum have had the sole purpose of being disruptive, derisive and rude". 

    He does not deserve an answer. 

    By Naseer Ahmed - 3/15/2019 3:50:50 AM



  • Naseer sb. again uses pretend indignation in order to avoid responding to my two posts. He will use any ruse to run away from what he does not want to answer!

    Regarding this article, since no one else has called it "path-breaking", Naseer sb. has decided to call it path-breaking himself! He claims, " It is the first time someone has looked at the Prophetic mission as something that was shaped by the events and not as something that was pre-determined to happen the way it did." This is an area of idle speculation and Naseer sb. excels in idle speculation. But he will not answer direct and specific questions addressed to him!


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 3/14/2019 12:03:29 PM



  • It is GM sb who is an ignoramus and a fool. His comments are not even relevant to the article. His purpose is to divert attention from the article which is path breaking.  The fool will say that no one else has said it is path breaking because he does not even know what path breaking means. It is the first time someone has looked at the Prophetic mission as something that was shaped by the events and not as something that was pre-determined to happen the way it did. It has consequences on the way the Message is understood for the better as explained in the article and the way the Muslims interpret events. He has no interest in discussing the article but only in diverting attention away from it. His "forays in this forum have had the sole purpose of being disruptive, derisive and rude"

    By Naseer Ahmed - 3/14/2019 2:02:16 AM



  • Naseer sb. will not answer the two posts that I had mentioned because any attempt on his part to do so will expose the fact that he is nothing but a charlatan.


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 3/13/2019 12:31:58 PM



  • So, it is not relevant to the article. Why can't you remain focused on the article? Why do you want to digress?
    By Naseer Ahmed - 3/13/2019 2:58:32 AM



  • Naseer sb. now raises the question of relevance! He goes far afield from the subject of an article when it suits him, but now he is wants to escape in a cowardly manner because he does not want to face up to the questions raised in  3/1/2019 1:56:27 PM and 3/3/2019 12:49:11 PM.. The questions are directly relevant to the thread that was developed with his full participation. So stop running and answer the questions. Or admit that you do not have the answers.


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 3/10/2019 1:50:24 PM



  • Why don't you show some bravery and prove that your comment has relevance to the article? You are the coward who is running away. 
    By Naseer Ahmed - 3/9/2019 11:37:45 PM



  • Naseer sb.,
    My comments are neither illogical nor flippant and you know it. The onus is not on me to explain anything. You just want to run in a cowardly fashion instead of standing there like a man and responding to the points that I had raised in  3/1/2019 1:56:27 PM and 3/3/2019 12:49:11 PM.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 3/9/2019 12:29:20 PM



  • I repeat, the comments are illogical, irrelevant and flippant. The onus is on him to prove that they are not.
    By Naseer Ahmed - 3/8/2019 11:15:52 PM



  • Let me repeat. Since Naseer sb. does not want to answer the questions in  my posts of  3/1/2019 1:56:27 PM and 3/3/2019 12:49:11 PM., he, in his cowardly manner, again creates a smoke screen, abusing me, calling me names etc.! I can understand why he is running away from those two posts. They clearly show him up to be the charlatan that he is.


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 3/8/2019 1:43:08 PM



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