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The War Within Islam (30 Oct 2019 NewAgeIslam.Com)


  • true. By giving away Kashi and Mathura without waiting for a mass movement or court process, Muslims in India can trigger reformation of Islam to make it deserve a place in India.
    By Madhuraj Patinhare Covilakam - 11/12/2019 8:11:04 AM

  • @Zahid Osman Islam needs to refine a lot to deserve a place in India, where there is respect for every religion.
    By Madhuraj Patinhare Covilakam - 11/12/2019 8:10:35 AM

  • More than reconstruction of a Mosque, which was a political structure more than a religious structure Muslims should reconstruct their religion in Indian ethos of respect for all religions.
    By Madhuraj Patinhare Covilakam - 11/12/2019 8:09:44 AM

  • Majority Himdus do not want Gahr vapsi, it's like taking Ghu vapsi, Sada huva dimag nahi chahiye,,chahe unke purvaz Hindu Ho, The person with right thoughts, no false ego in Muslims society will stop follow Islam and follow Hinduism no need the convention egoism and public show that I am now Hindu. Ghar Vapsi of goon Hindus or tolerant Muslims like Sultan Shahin is game of egoism and hypocracy.
    By Aayina - 11/8/2019 1:06:41 PM

  • Indian Muslims have disease of minority they are second largest Majority. Minority are those that are chances of getting vanished and powerless like in Pakistan, Bangldesh and Indian majority Muslims areas, where you cannot find Hindus
    By Aayina - 11/8/2019 12:56:58 PM

  • Does this website is doing anything like new age Islam no playing same card in different way of playing minority games Jains and some Ismaili Khoja are better they asked for similar right as main stream not like hypocrate Indian Muslims are Shamless call themselves minority actually they are second largest Majority, if they have right thoughts in mind they might have played proper role in India 
    By Aayina - 11/8/2019 12:54:04 PM

  • @Murshid Hassan
    Murshid Hassan India have both hindu and islamic law and thereby rules.
    Plz do not post funny reply.

    By Sharda Rajan - 11/8/2019 9:15:28 AM

  • @Murshid Hassan India doesn't have Islamic rules
    By Sharda Rajan - 11/8/2019 9:14:33 AM

  • Let the court decide first if it is a mosque actually. Land of a mosque not saleable or transferable in Islam.
    By Murshid Hassan - 11/8/2019 9:13:37 AM

  • @Zehra sherwani Now also Islamists are crossing their limits. Continuously we see different types of jihads, love jihad and rape jihad being the prime.
    All these sunnah will be replied back with a far brutal manner, we just hope it stops without thay

    By Abhay Kumar - 11/8/2019 9:11:45 AM

  • @Zehra sherwani all those genocides were started by Islamists only
    By Abhay Kumar - 11/8/2019 9:10:53 AM

  • True bonhomie shall ensue only when all talks of Jihad are given up and the pernicious practice of conversion activities are given up!

    By Eknaath Nagarkar - 11/4/2019 9:25:13 PM

  • Sultan Shahin... Paid agent and a blockhead person......
    By Waseem Nabi Dar - 11/4/2019 9:24:25 PM

  • @Bilhan Kaul
    We only seen rioters of Hinduism in whole India.
    Because frame of reference matters more.
    And also this issue belongs to an Indian Mosque and I'm talking about Indian rioters who are none other than Indian Hindus.

    By Farhan Azmi - 11/4/2019 9:23:48 PM

  • @Farhan Azmi ,good. But you have no idea about rioters of Islam. Had you broached about them,then your opinion would have carried weight. Otherwise,it is strict no,no.

    By Bilhan Kaul - 11/4/2019 9:23:18 PM

  • @Meerafrejul Islam ,no need to donate. But you have wonderful ideas. But problem is why are you dependant upon Islam so much. You too have wisdom without involving Islam. Is it Muslims were told that first talk about welfare of Islam and your welfare is secondary. In other words, why are you ideological and drag Islam. Show some independence of thought and you already have that. But don't be propagandist.
    By Bilhan Kaul - 11/4/2019 9:22:50 PM

  • @Meerafrejul Islam
    You are free to donate your house when these rioters come to your home, Not that land.

    By Farhan Azmi - 11/4/2019 9:22:13 PM

  • @Meerafrejul Islam why do one thing donate ur house to any poor hindu and established peace.
    And even u can do ghae whapsi

    By Seher Liyana - 11/4/2019 9:21:44 PM

  • Meerafrejul Islam Agreed. 🌹
    By F N Deshmukh - 11/4/2019 9:21:21 PM

  • If the verdict of sc goes against ram mundir, it will be better for the muslim to donate the to mundir for establishing peace which is most desired objective of Islam..
    By Meerafrejul Islam - 11/4/2019 9:20:49 PM

  • On the pipeline waiting Krishna birthplace.

    By Profanadikumar Kundu - 11/4/2019 9:20:09 PM

  • In clear words, they want to subjugate one community. Probably henceforth that community will become second grade citizens, if their citizenship isn't quashed.
    By Profanadikumar Kundu - 11/4/2019 9:19:17 PM

  • @Zaheerhusain Khan ,here is problem with you? Why are you interested to see everything through Islamic prisim.show some individuality. We are giving the impression that Islam believes in herd mentality and you are it's slave. No one is impressed with religion these days and least of all Islam. Modern problems are different and you have nothing more to worry than Islam.
    By Bilhan Kaul - 11/4/2019 9:18:28 PM

  • @Abu Basim Khan , then you have say your Muslim rulers also culprits and Looters who has destroyed and looted so many Temples in INDIA. What you say?

    By Bhaskaar Acharya - 11/4/2019 9:17:06 PM

  • What type and nature of Islam is this, which mandated destruction of more than thirty thousand hindu temples, which imposed jaziya on non believers, which destroyed the culture and traditions of India, which burnt the worlds oldest University at Nalanda with all the ancient manuscripts, which cant coexist peacefully with any faith, which condones jihad against the non believers! Islam objects idol worship and treats non believers as kafirs. Can other faiths be allowed to object against prayers in a masjid, can other Faith's take liberty to treat Muslims as kafirs. Think about it and reform with times otherwise it will be too late.

    By Abhisaar Mehrotra - 11/4/2019 9:14:55 PM

  • @Bilhan Kaul
    Many people are anxious that Hindus should be modernized.Hindus are also tied with identity because of their religion.Both Hindus and Muslims of India should focus their attention to other important things that matter in their lives rather than religions and castes.I agree with you.

    By Syed Ahson - 11/4/2019 9:13:47 PM

  • Jeena yaha marna yahan, iske Siva Jana kahan.
    Syed Ahson, no part of earth is private property of any religion or sect. Nations are made for people not other way. But now many people are anxious that Muslims should modernise. More,because some laws come into play to interfere with modern laws.
    Hindus too believe in outrageous things but they don't interfere with modern laws. For peculiar reason some Muslims are tied with identity because of religion. Others too are involved but to lesser extent. It is more or less wiped in Europe because as already stated they have other things to worry than religion.

    By Bilhan Kaul - 11/4/2019 9:13:00 PM

  • Bilhan Kaul
    We must first educate poor and LMC people about the perils of superstition and fear of the unknown.Next comes poverty. We need to work in rural areas.

    By Syed Ahson - 11/4/2019 9:12:19 PM

  • Yes,true. Indians are also very religious. Because they too don't understand how universe works. But religion is tied here with earth and do not involve lot of politics. And one shouldn't have any problem with Dee wali sweets or Eid mutton.
    Problem with some Muslims is difficult to explain. Homonigesation of Islam where from Kosovo to kanyakumari some Muslims have same opinion. It wasn't true in Indians at least where from region to region people had different god's. And there was no animosity because of that. But space with Muslims was less because they were prevented from looking beyond Islam. It has created problem. So the thing is unconsciously Muslims have opinion their welfare is dependent upon march of Islam. They are unable to tear religion from self. But many Indians know the difference. And i am speaking about less educated one's than educated. It is here you can observe the difference.

    By Bilhan Kaul - 11/4/2019 9:11:41 PM

  • @Bilhan Kaul
    Are Hindus in India less religious? I am against over-religionists.I follow minimum requirement of my religion and I hate bigots.But I will fight against injustice and hate and tyranny wherever it exists.You are welcome.

    By Syed Ahson - 11/4/2019 9:10:48 PM

  • @Syed Ahson ,
    72 hoors are ready for......

    By Keshav Bhandarkar - 11/4/2019 9:10:11 PM

  • Syed Ahson which rights?Of course,fight about Muslim education and fight about modernisation of Muslims who are excessively tied to religion. And surely religion is one proof that you are backward. It is true everywhere. That is why Europeans are less religious now because they have other achievements. But i qualify that i don't worry about temple or mosque. I have no opinion.

    By Bilhan Kaul - 11/4/2019 9:09:39 PM

  • We must fight for our right whatever price we may have to pay.Your advice is absurd.
    By Syed Ahson - 11/4/2019 9:09:00 PM

  • This Boomer at it again
    Typical self styled "intellectuals" "peacemakers" like him have always favoured the hindu side of the story no matter what...
    These bootlickers desperately want to be in the good books of the Hindutva regime at all costs..
    They hv exposed their own bigotry time and again
    They NEVER called for action against rioters, politicians and failed administration for their inaction which caused a nation wide communal violence against muslims.. Rather they want muslims to 'forgive' the "miscreants" to 'retain the good will of the Hindu Majority'
    Just wow
    NEVER did they say a word for the victims who were brutually murdered by the hands of the hindutva rioters/"miscreants"
    This article in a nutshell :
    "Muslims should give up their rightful ownership of the land or get ready to face the wrath of the majority hindu community, again"

    By Mohammad Hussain - 11/4/2019 9:07:59 PM

  • Himmat hai to sach ka samnaa karo...is judgement se S.C ki izzat dao pe hai....ye jhagda ko Milkiyat ka hai...??? Yehi to dekhnaa hai
    By Najib Rahman - 11/4/2019 9:06:58 PM

  • There is No Old age Islam or New age Islam Islam is for all ages.
    By S Iqbal Ahmed - 11/4/2019 9:06:04 PM

  • Whatever the court's verdict, every party must respect the verdict, but I fail to understand what is meant by earning of majority hindu goodwill, all the communities in india are equal citizens, no community is obligated to please other community to buy peace out of fear. There must be rule of law.
    By Zahid Osman - 11/4/2019 9:02:27 PM

  • @Abhay Kumar so should every genocide that happens..partition of india..gujrat riots..Bombay riots..muzafar pur killings..Assam killings ..giving a killings..the list is endless
    By Zehra Shervani - 11/4/2019 9:01:52 PM

  • @Zehra Shervani U can't define the threshold that suits ur own comfort. Every Islamic genocide would be taken into account if u look back
    By Abhay Kumar - 11/4/2019 9:01:11 PM

  • Sultan Shamless Sultan Shahin should have write title once in his life form his Hindu wife prospective.
    By Aayina - 11/3/2019 10:30:15 PM

  • Hindus read the Title as: Rebuilding and Restoring  Deomoish Ram Temple by Muslims, regaining glory and respect of Ram"
    By Aayina - 11/3/2019 10:28:54 PM

  • Temple demolished, mosque demolished on camera. I suddenly feel leave it at it, what more is needed here? Another temple ?. It will not be go smooth in future.

    By Karthikeyan Chidambaram - 11/3/2019 9:46:01 PM

  • Bilhan Kaul ok likely to visit Jammu around 22nd November.Hope to see you then
    By Pawan Jalali - 11/3/2019 9:45:32 PM

  • Pawan Jalali ,well i have noticed there are no Kashmirs today,which was not the case earlier when many Kashmiris were in this forum probably last year. I was literally searching for them. Well Indian Muslims have same sort of problem which minorties face unless it is advanced like European civilisation. If you come to Jammu i will give you book which i have written.
    By Bilhan Kaul - 11/3/2019 9:45:06 PM

  • Bilhan Kaul my dear friend am fine.I feel humbled by your eulogising comment
    By Pawan Jalali - 11/3/2019 9:44:30 PM

  • @Pawan Jalali,how are you?wish you well. Continue giving replies because you have that talent.
    By Bilhan Kaul - 11/3/2019 9:44:05 PM

  • It would be proper to correct the rongs done by invaders.we the Indian hindus do not have to be apologetic.How come that the bloody leftist historians have justified the barbarous acts of invedors. Now that we are a free country what is wrong if the old mandir all over India, are restored to their glory.?,
    By A C Ram Gupta - 11/3/2019 9:42:58 PM

  • @Abdul Rahman not possible at all. We want three major places of worship back from Muslim clutches. Ayodhya ji, Mathura and Kashi Vishvnath. And I promise you, we will take or snatch them back in a few years. Rest we don't even talk of.
    By Hemant Kapoor - 11/3/2019 9:42:31 PM

  • @Abdul Rahman , Not possible. Wrong cannot continue. Wrong cannot become right.
    Or In 1947 partition took place on the basis of religion?.

    By Keshav Bhandarkar - 11/3/2019 9:41:39 PM

  • Let there be a pact between two sides not to resort to or not to succumb to similar duress over ownership of any other worship place. If it realises, then further goings will be smooth and easier.
    By Abdul Rahman - 11/3/2019 9:41:09 PM

  • @Hassan Ghouse Baig agree with you.
    Making purposefull mosque on demolished big hindu faiths is definitely not the example you want to site here.
    Everyone in this country know ibrahim garadi with Maratha , sacrifices of Muslims for hindavi swarajya, 1957 revolt to maulana azad
    And also genocide of Hindus made in the name of islam by sultans and mugals.
    This is an opportunity to dissociate from wrong islam of rulers

    By Gajanan Waychal - 11/3/2019 9:40:24 PM

  • Till BJP leaders cannot change their mind set towards Muslims whatever be the sacrifices of the muslim community it cannot fetch the desired results.
    By Hassan Ghouse Baig - 11/3/2019 9:39:17 PM

  • What abt others demand s like Mathura Kashi and..... We must fight judiciously. Yes an amicable solution is justiable.
    By Jamshed Haidar - 11/3/2019 9:38:51 PM

  • Rassi jal jati hai ganth ainthan rah jati hai
    Ham log bahut aadarshvadi nahi hain
    Koi hare ya jite man ki kashak to rahegi hi

    By Shriniwas Dubey - 11/3/2019 9:38:20 PM

  • You are not an innovator. Many have this opinion. But why to leave the Right,? Other party is ready to interpret it as your fear and out of weakness. Best way is to gracefully accept verdict of court.
    By Nisar Ahmad - 11/3/2019 9:35:46 PM

  • @Azim Jr. No, only Ayodhya, mathura and kashi.
    By Abhay Kumar - 11/3/2019 9:35:18 PM

  • So wise advice? Give space for miscreants hooligan lawbreaker ! Act of Demolition of Babri masjid is not a Hindu Muslim affair but quite an act of defying Indian constitution. Does our constitution permits such act?
    By Harihar Kalita - 11/3/2019 9:34:34 PM

  • @Bilhan Kaul If u don't care for both why do u jump into this ? It's obvious u r telling a big lie.
    By Akber Hussain Hussain - 11/3/2019 9:34:00 PM

  • Post karnewala (Abusive word deleted... Editor) hai srf Muslim ko hedyat kr raha hai dono samuday ke logo se speak kr
    By MD Ghiasuddin Ansari - 11/3/2019 9:32:27 PM

  • No mr. Gangadhar U don't have enough knowledge. Makkah was built long before Prophet Mohammed's birth. Don't make new stories.
    By Akber Hussain Hussain - 11/3/2019 9:31:51 PM

  • @Ahmad Mobin Khan, Muslims have the birth place of Muhammad constructed as the greatest mosque at Mecca. Same way, Christians have the birth place of Jesus with out any prejudice or attacks. The birth place of Sri Ram is Ayodhya and the temple built at that place was demolished and a mosque was built over it by invaders. We Hindus are not asking for places of temples demolished by mugals at thousands of places, but the birth place of Sri Ram.
    By Gangadharan VG - 11/3/2019 9:30:52 PM

  • Good suggestion, but after all mosque was built over a demolished temple. The whole thing looks muddled.
    Worshiping in such a temple or mosque is also absurd.

    By Karthikeyan Chidambaram - 11/3/2019 9:30:15 PM

  • Please turn your article as "Opportunity for Hindus". Why don't you suggest to Hindus to pave way for reconstruction of Masjid at the original site as a goodwill gesture and sacrifice generally given by the elder brother to his youngers in a matter of family dispute. Please keep your suggestion within yourself and wait for the judgement of the Hon'ble Supreme Court.
    By Ahmad Mobin Khan - 11/3/2019 9:29:32 PM

  • Land of mosque can't be sold.Rest of waqf can be sold as per will or deed of waaqif.if waaqif has restricted to sell his waqf property then no one has power to sell.
    By Nazar Abbas - 11/3/2019 9:29:04 PM

  • Aukaf lands can be sold the resources thus gained can be utilized for welfare of aukaf N community. Exchange of land is also allowed
    By Azhar Husain - 11/3/2019 9:28:36 PM

  • @Nazar Abbas there are exception to every law. When any one is dying of hinder, he can eat pork.
    By Nisar Ahmad - 11/3/2019 9:28:11 PM

  • Respected sharda bahen,it is your view.wait for the verdict of the court.
    By Nazar Abbas - 11/3/2019 9:27:42 PM

  • @Nazar Abbas This was not a mosque
    By Sharda Rajan - 11/3/2019 9:27:17 PM

  • Site was never disputed.dispute was created pre independence.now the matter is in the hands of politicians.your eye opening words should be also for those who demolished the mosque and trying to grab the site by hook and crook despite that matter is and was sub judice.if the mosque was built on a private land or any religious place then it can't be considered as mosque.Now wait for the decision of the supreme court.
    By Nazar Abbas - 11/3/2019 9:26:29 PM

  • @Nazar Abbas,well as per modern laws everyone should have 21st century ideas than 6that century ideas.Why are you behaving that you have seige mentality where you can't decide. I understand Muslims are not interested in giving the disputed site. But no need to always wear Islam on sleeves and give the impression that Muslims have no achievement other than religion.
    By Bilhan Kaul - 11/3/2019 9:25:55 PM

  • As per islamic law no one has right to donate,handover and sell the place of mosque to anyone.even waq board is only care taker.
    By Nazar Abbas - 11/3/2019 9:24:55 PM

  • A perfect example of tolerance and beauty of the majority community which runs,leads the country,dominates in every field,despite very less contribution in economy never object various subsidies and assistance to minority has been waiting for court's verdict since decades.
    Needs to think and introspect.

    By Sanjeev Sharma - 11/3/2019 9:24:23 PM

  • Were the Hindus really concern about the Ram Mandir earlier before Shahbano?? No..Muslims demanded Pakistan, It's well known History from where did the Muslim League used to win before Independence...but Hindus didn't mind Muslims stayed in India..they never treated badly like Hindus treated in Pakistan and Bangladesh..but...Things changed after Shahbano..they feel that the core muslimness which created Pakistan "Islam khatre me hai" is still here remained..made the road of Ram Janmbhoomi agitation..it's not going to stop anymore until you generously give Kashi and Mathura
    By Om Prakash Pandey - 11/3/2019 9:23:48 PM

  • @Rangarajan Maddikera The court should decide the matter on facts and the judgement should appear to have been delivered on facts.
    By Ghayas Akhtar - 11/3/2019 9:23:19 PM

  • @Sharda Rajan Frankly speaking Ram himself is not a historical figure. No contemporary proof or writing of that period proves his existance But ofcourse we respect the sentiments and if the highest court concludes that it was mandir we will honour the verdict. Let all know how honestly the court decides.
    By Ghayas Akhtar - 11/3/2019 9:22:50 PM

  • Ghayas Akhtar what honesty we want. The truth is lakhon years pahelese Ram janam bhoomi Ayodhya hai. Is me kya charcha karna
    By Sharda Rajan - 11/3/2019 9:22:18 PM

  • @Rangarajan Maddikera - I hope that Babri Masjid disputes will be last in India.
    No further claims will be entertained.
    Court verdicts will be final.

    By Mohammad Akhtar Imam - 11/3/2019 9:21:46 PM

  • @Ghayas Akhtar sir what is the measure of honesty according to your standards
    By Rangarajan Maddikera - 11/3/2019 9:20:50 PM

  • If we have faith in our court we need not comment on sub judice matter.
    Let the court decide and the decision be laid down in history. Let the world know about the honesty of court. If they decide honestly the world will recognise. If not, again the world will know. And will become a part of history.

    By Ghayas Akhtar - 11/3/2019 9:20:17 PM

  • @Abhay Kumar 1947 was the cut off year in history forownership of property...
    By Zehra Shervani - 11/3/2019 9:19:20 PM

  • @Bilhan Kaul Well said.
    By Ajoy Dutta - 11/3/2019 9:18:15 PM

  • @Zehra Shervani yes,Mosque shouldn't be problem anywhere and to settle centuries old dispute is laughable. But it was on cards. Muslims had nothing but mosque politics to worry about.
    I mean those Muslims who control them,not masses. To spread anarchy and be excessively tied with Arabs,who tend to have no achievements other than propagation of Islam added to worry of Indians. Now they too are playing politics like Muslims.

    By Bilhan Kaul - 11/3/2019 9:17:43 PM

  • Is there place for justice or might and lies.
    By S Iqbal Ahmed - 11/3/2019 9:17:13 PM

  • @Zehra ji yes you are right. There shouldn't be any approach for grabbing. But it was Babar who grabbed the land at the first place itself. He didn't buy it, he grabbed it.
    So, if we go by ur logic, entire waqf property would have to be given back to Hindus

    By Abhay Kumar - 11/3/2019 9:16:22 PM

  • @Gyaneshwar Dayal Singhal who invited Babar and for what?
    By Rizwanullah Khan - 11/3/2019 9:15:27 PM

  • @Zehra Shervani When waqf came in to existance? Who sold or gifted this land to babar or his looteras? If as an Indian patriot we think than Babar can not be ideal but a barbarous invader who killed Tolerant Indians for his lust not as a religious head.
    By Gyaneshwar Dayal Singhal - 11/3/2019 9:14:40 PM

  • It's waqf land..given to chastity for well being of Muslims...why has a price never been offered for the plot..why this grab and take...why does anyone need to curry favour

    By Zehra Shervani - 11/3/2019 9:13:49 PM

  • @Bilhan Kaul Well said
    By Ajoy Dutta - 11/3/2019 9:12:36 PM

  • @Bilhan Kaul Those who dont know their grand old fathers name are taliking about Muslim convert First go through Hindus you will find Hindus converted from Huns Shak Pehlavs Greek Parthians Mongols and so many other wild foreign race Other your point do not deserve reply
    By Abdulkadar Desai - 11/3/2019 9:11:29 PM

  • @Abdulkadar Desai ,wah!You are trying to say that RSS is RSS and jamaat is jammat and twain can never meet. But your problem with RSS ideology would have carried weight,if you had introspected and got through Islamic ideology.
    Why? Because you were converted precisely for that purpose. See defect in opposite camp. Indians are casteist but no one can beat sectarian tribalistic Islam. Having said that i don't care about temple or mosque.

    By Bilhan Kaul - 11/3/2019 9:10:24 PM

  • @Ghayas Akhtar sir what is the measure of honesty according to your standards
    By Rangarajan Maddikera - 11/3/2019 8:46:47 AM

  • If we have faith in our court we need not comment on sub judice matter.
    Let the court decide and the decision be laid down in history. Let the world know about the honesty of court. If they decide honestly the world will recognise. If not, again the world will know. And will become a part of history.

    By Ghayas Akhtar - 11/3/2019 8:45:45 AM

  • Hadith mentions it is not right for any to take any property and to abuse them.
    Imran bin Husain narrated that :
    The Prophet said: "There is no Jalab, no Janab, and no Shighar in Islam. And whoever takes some property by force, then he is not from us."
    حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ الْمَلِكِ بْنِ أَبِي الشَّوَارِبِ، حَدَّثَنَا بِشْرُ بْنُ الْمُفَضَّلِ، حَدَّثَنَا حُمَيْدٌ، وَهُوَ الطَّوِيلُ قَالَ حَدَّثَ الْحَسَنُ، عَنْ عِمْرَانَ بْنِ حُصَيْنٍ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏"‏ لاَ جَلَبَ وَلاَ جَنَبَ وَلاَ شِغَارَ فِي الإِسْلاَمِ وَمَنِ انْتَهَبَ نُهْبَةً فَلَيْسَ مِنَّا ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قَالَ أَبُو عِيسَى هَذَا حَدِيثٌ حَسَنٌ صَحِيحٌ ‏.‏ قَالَ وَفِي الْبَابِ عَنْ أَنَسٍ وَأَبِي رَيْحَانَةَ وَابْنِ عُمَرَ وَجَابِرٍ وَمُعَاوِيَةَ وَأَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ وَوَائِلِ بْنِ حُجْرٍ ‏.‏
    The extract above is from Jami' at-Tirmidhi 1123, in-book reference: book 11, hadith 45, English translation: vol 2, book 6, hadith 1123.
    The phrase, whoever takes some property by force..then he is not from us, here can mean whoever takes the mosques by force and to demolish it, he is not from Muslim.  Or in other word, he is not Muslim, since Quran demands Muslims to do good instead of doing evil deeds, i.e. destroying somebody's property, mosque.
    The phrase, by force, here means by violence.  However, it does not apply to non-violence.  What if the mosques that have been taken away are not by violence, but it is merely due to they are vacant for many years and nobody use it.  They take them and to demolish them without any violence, since none object.  The mere reason that none object is none use them or occupy them as mosques nowadays.  If that is the reason, the way that they demolish it would not contradict against this hadith, since this hadith only does not permit people to take property by force.
    Thus, it is against many years ago it happened terrorists destroyed mosques and killed many Muslims, since this hadith verse forbids people to do evil deed by using force to take some property to do whatever thing what they like, i.e. by destroying it or by owning it or whatever.
    By zuma - 11/2/2019 4:40:00 AM

  • Akber Hussain Hussain ,why are so shocked? If you talk sense,then apne zameer beach diya,wah!But i have no opinion about temple or mosque. I don't care for both. But those people who have peace at heart should be heard. Showing braveness in your room and exhort others to fight for Islam and not for human rights has caused much suffering and Muslims are first sufferers.
    By Bilhan Kaul - 11/2/2019 1:49:03 AM

  • How dare u say that.
    Lagta hai aapne khud Ko or apne zameer Ko bhi bech diya.

    By Akber Hussain Hussain - 11/2/2019 1:48:14 AM

  • Hamid Hussain nothing wrong in that. You can't play games all time. And wafadar of sarkars are everywhere and not just in India. But sultan shahin is entitled to his opinions. You may disagree.
    By Bilhan Kaul - 11/2/2019 1:47:35 AM

  • Wafadar of sarkar always talking in way to be more close to majority
    By Hamid Hussain - 11/2/2019 1:47:01 AM

  • @Mohammed Rafiq Jamadar it is a sensible preposition. But i don't worry about temple or mosque. Muslims were prone to play politics with religion for long time and some mischievous elements in Hindus understood it and are now playing reactive politics.
    By Bilhan Kaul - 11/2/2019 1:46:30 AM

  • The matter has came a very long way where scope for any thoughts looks dim but the writers feelings R very welcome.
    By Mohammed Rafiq Jamadar - 11/2/2019 1:45:53 AM

  • hindus converted in muslims forcefully or in kinds in india by ivaders earlier the same happens to christian too
    now is a time to those who converted in muslims and christians from hindus to rethink
    what the world now thinking on islam

    By सुबोध श्रीराम - 11/2/2019 1:45:12 AM

  • @Abu Basim Khan vah kirayedar bol rahe hain k makaan ka malik apni property inke naam par kar de. For ur kind information, mandir banane ka decision already ho chuka hai kyuki prabhu Sri Ram ji ki yahi mansha hai. Jai shree Ram.
    By Rajkumar Mehra - 11/2/2019 1:44:41 AM

  • @Rizwanullah Khan kyu America ne islam ko international terror religion kaha hai. Ye bhi batao. Mullon ka to vaha katchha tak uttar kar airport par security k naam par checking ki jati hai. Aur tumhari kaum k besharam log phir bi vaha insult karaane jate hain. Vaise kahawat hai k insult uski hoti hai jiski koi respect ho.
    By Rajkumar Mehra - 11/2/2019 1:44:08 AM

  • @Rizwanullah Khan All r treated equally in Saudi ....so funny , childish
    As if u r the only person know about Saudi 😂😂😂

    By Maruti Matlapurkar - 11/2/2019 1:43:38 AM

  • सुबोध श्रीराम Hindu converted in Muslim, christians, budh, sikh, etc. in past and continue converting in india and world as well. Think about the reason. Why not sikh, christian, muslim, and others.
    Indian muslim and indian hindu are equally treated in Saudi. They are Freely doing job no asked him to leave Saudi because you are hindu. No one force to say Allah Hu akber to non muslim.
    Listen Modi ji speech about Saudi. मेरा जन्म जन्म का नाता है सऊदी से?

    By Rizwanullah Khan - 11/2/2019 1:43:07 AM

  • Do u all know about urselves who u r
    A converted muslims only from hindu origin and u all are treated as dogs in saudia they not recognise u as muslims

    By सुबोध श्रीराम - 11/2/2019 1:42:32 AM

  • @ Krishna Kumar Why not u sacrifice,u are the culprit, u are broken and damaged the Mosque.
    By Abu Basim Khan - 11/2/2019 1:42:04 AM

  • @ Batt Sahab I think u r talking about makka and Ajmer kabargah.
    By Rajkumar Mehra - 11/2/2019 1:41:31 AM

  • @Krishna Kumar good idea make it sabze mandi
    By Batt Sahab - 11/2/2019 1:40:55 AM

  • To keep the relation it is better to sacrifice the disputed land to make mandi
    By Krishna Kumar - 11/2/2019 1:40:18 AM

  • Idiotic suggestion. This could lead to a chain reaction of demolitions.
    By Shafi Patel - 11/2/2019 1:39:38 AM

  • जब आप 'ईश्वर' को एक मानते है, तो इंसान का बंटवारा हिन्दू-मुसलमान-ईसाई में क्यों करते हैं !
    मुकदमा जीतने वाला पक्ष इस जमीन को सरकार को इस शर्त पर दे दे कि वहां एक राष्ट्रीय विश्वविद्यालय की स्थापना हो, जिसके परिसर में सभी धर्मों के उपासना स्थल बने हों। शर्त यह भी हो, कि आजादी के पहले निर्मित किसी भी धर्म के पूजा-स्थल के स्वरूप को बदला नहीं जाएगा ।
    कट्टरपंथी संघी हिन्दू संगठनों की नीति-नीयत-आचरण इस देश के बहुलतावादी सांस्कृतिक ढांचे के
    अनुकूल है ही नहीं । उन पर भरोसा नही
    किया जा सकता है । जिनकी विश्वसनीयता ही नहीं, उनका गुडविल/सौहार्द्र किस काम का ! उनके पास कपट के हजार बहाने मिलेंगे ।

    By Mahesh Jaiswal - 11/2/2019 1:38:50 AM

  • Today Babri Masjid...tomorrow Delhi Jame Masjid
    By Azim Jr. - 11/2/2019 1:38:13 AM

  • कब तक और कहां तक दरियादिली दिखायेंगे आप। सवाल सिर्फ एकमात्र बाबरी मस्जिद का नहीं है। 5000 अन्य मस्जिदों पर भी डिस्प्यूट है। क्या वो सब भी दरियादिली के चलते छोड़ दी जाएं। और बात यहीं नहीं रुकती, बात तो अब काबा शरीफ तक पहुंच चुकी है। क्या उसको भी छोड़ देंगे। इसी लिए तो मामला अब प्रतिष्ठा से जुड़ा हुआ बन गया है। बेहतर होगा कि अब सुप्रीम कोर्ट का निर्णय माना जाए।

    By Intizar Siddiqui - 11/2/2019 1:37:42 AM

  • There r more than 3000 Hindu worship places which were demolished by Jehadi Rulers to establish Islamic Rule over Kaphers is the
    History .... apart rapes murders killings in the name of Jehad

    By Maruti Matlapurkar - 11/2/2019 1:36:51 AM

  • Kashmir is a land of Kashyap Rishi

    By Kaul Ashok - 11/2/2019 1:34:31 AM

  • Zaheerhusain Khan but this realization is bit late that too confined in few minorities among Muslim but no Muslim listen to people like you.
    By Kaul Ashok - 11/2/2019 1:33:41 AM

  • I dont know what will be the verdict of the spreme court. There are two aspects, Universal worldly rules and Islamic shriyaa rues . Ffrrom Islamic Shriyah rrule invasion on any country is unislamic, haraam and a sin, as such all the kings, shahs and sultans who invaded India and for that matter any country , did a grave gunah . History and Rawayaat are testimony that the Rasool e Islam did never waged asingle war among 80 ghazwah he faught. All these wars were defensive, not a single offensive , as suuch no war on any countrywas Islmic. Baburs invasion was an unislamic offence. After he won , he legally possessed nthing as such the patch of land on which the babri masjid was made was ghasbi, illegal and a masjid on this land was unislamic, any prayers done there were unvalid, it doe not matter whether it was the birth place of Lord Ram , it doesnot matter whether a mandir existed or not , but a masjid was haram and unislamic there . From worldly rules an ancient masjid existed somewhere and some people unauthrisedly demolished it, the perpitrators are liable to be prosecuted a d punished as per the existing law .Now the masjd gone, rightly or wrongly a mandir if desired could be constructed there by all means , the place belongs to its original inhabitants , hindus, not migrant muslims .
    By Zaheerhusain Khan - 11/2/2019 1:29:57 AM

  • This matter isn't belongs to a land but an allegation put by Indian extremist Hindus group.
    They can take their allegations back and punish all the culprits for goodwill gesture, But you too know they are not going to do this. Then talking about some peace is just useless.

    By Farhan Azmi - 11/2/2019 1:28:01 AM

  • Report this page
    By Md Asim - 11/2/2019 1:27:22 AM

  • That is a nice way to grab every mosque in India . First demolish it by force , vandalise it and then expect the Muslim community to be maganaminous enough to not only forgive the miscreants who indulged in vandalism but to expect them to gift the land of the mosque to the vandals for building a temple!!
    It seems that you have taken a vow to browbeat the beleaguered Muslim minority into submitting before the aggressive majority and to insult it.
    Not a word of condemnation against the fascist vandals. You are doing the job assigned to you by the fascist sanghis

    By Saud Ahmed Siddique - 11/2/2019 1:26:45 AM

  • @Gyaneshwar Dayal Singhal
    Not going deeply to the nitty gritties of Babriji Masjid.. Isalm don't recognise a Masjid which is built illegal or under falsehood. However this is to be proved unequivocally. Holy place of Hajj was filled with more than 300 idols and its destroyed after the arrival of prophet Muhammad SA.

    By Musthaque Ahmed - 11/2/2019 1:25:55 AM

  • @Gyaneshwar Dayal Singhal Trial and hearings are over no recordical evidence was proved that Babar constructed a Masjid over a temple. Have the attorneys produced in recordical evidence. Why throwing stones in a hallow vaccum. There is a history and recordical evidences are there for Kaba. At the outset you are an illiterate about your own religion and you are talking of other religions. First be a human then understand your own religion well and follow it with all true faith and devotion then you will come to know the truth.
    By K M M Siddique - 11/2/2019 1:25:22 AM

  • @Abdulkadar Desai , can you please tell me where I said that Babar was an Arab? Regardless, Babar, you and your Muzzie brothers got your venoms from the 7 th century barbaric Arabia.
    By Thiru Sethuraman - 11/2/2019 1:24:45 AM

  • @Kamran Haider By this modus oprendi they are making all Muslims historical mosques palaces Tajmahal etc controversil and than destroying Actually these sanghis consider all Muslims historical buildings as symbol of slavery Even they are changing name of town villege and city derived on the name of Muslim kings Mughal sarai Allahabad Fizabad and many more changed to Pryag raj etc. They are creating fake story like this Once I have told on social media that Badrinath temple is Mazar of Baba Badruddin than all had started to abuse but same time we are tolerating
    By Abdulkadar Desai - 11/2/2019 1:24:03 AM

  • how can u say it reshaped on temple our archelogical survey of india doesnt found any stuff related to mandir ..these all is a planned reel story
    By Kamran Haider - 11/2/2019 1:23:28 AM

  • Thiru Sethuraman Babar was not Arabian he was from central Asia pls obtain some knowledge and come out of barbarian mindset
    By Abdulkadar Desai - 11/2/2019 1:22:51 AM

  • @Gyaneshwar Singhal Muslim rule in India was strted in 1192 and Babar came in 1526 300 year after delhi sultanate defeating Ibrahim Lodhi In 1226 CE, Ayodhya became the capital of the province of Awadh (or "Oudh") within the Delhi sultanate.Under Mughal rule, the Babri mosque was constructed in Ayodhya. The city was the capital of the province of Awadh, which is also believed to be a variant of the name "Ayodhya." During the British Raj the city was known as Ajodhya or Ajodhia and was part of the United Provinces of Agra and Oudh. It was also the seat of a small 'talukdari' state.[54][55]

    After the death of Aurangzeb in 1707 CE, the central Muslim rule weakened, and Awadh became virtually independent, with Ayodhya as its capital. However, the rulers became increasingly dependent on the local Hindu nobles, and control over the temples and pilgrimage centres was relaxed.[53] Saadat Ali Khan, Nawab of Awadh, bestowed the riyasat (principality) of Ayodhya on his loyal Brahmin soldier Dwijdeo Mishra of the Kasyapa gotra, for quelling revenue rebels in Mehendauna in Eastern UP. WHEN MUSLIM POPULATION OR HINDU POPULATION grow than Masjid or temple require this is understandable by ordinary person also

    By Abdulkadar Desai - 11/2/2019 1:22:11 AM

  • @Gyaneshwar Dayal Singhal , if the these barbarians from the 7th century Arabia can only be logical, we will never be in this situation.
    By Thiru Sethuraman - 11/2/2019 1:20:48 AM

  •  How it could be a religious masjid. It was not own land gifted or purchased legally nor it was constructed on barren ground but was reshaped on old temple by using power. The holy religion recognize such masjid, I do not agree.
    The time when Babar invaded Indian land can any body tell how many followers of Islam were living in Ayodhya? Why a large size masjid was needed in Ayodhya a holy place of lord Ram. No body should question Holy place of Haj if he is a true religios person may have belief in Hinduism or Christianity.

    By Gyaneshwar Dayal Singhal - 11/2/2019 1:20:09 AM

  • Is it the duty of Muslims only to be anxious for the country.Is there no duty of the majority. Hundreds of Muslims were killed in India after the demolition of Babri Masjid. Who will be responsible for that.It is the duty of Muslim to bear every thing silently.
    By Mahmood Hasan - 11/2/2019 1:19:32 AM

  • 1400 साल हुए है आपके सिर्फ ।
    By Kuldeepsinh Mori - 11/2/2019 1:18:49 AM

  • This is intruders vs truth.
    By Umesh Goenka - 11/2/2019 1:18:01 AM

  • @Vg Ramachandran Your comment is wrong. Even at this age you can study history and apply your logical mind. All the best 🌹
    By F N Deshmukh - 11/2/2019 1:17:12 AM

  • why muslim give land for mandir why u not left the land for muslim good will
    By Kamran Haider - 11/2/2019 1:16:36 AM

  • @Vg Ramachandran During Muslim rule Indian economy was 24% of world GDP That is enough to proove that Muslims rule was peacefull. Thousands of temples builded before Muslims rule are till prevailing in India So dont play victim card by putting false allegation to justify your atrocity and injustice in democratic India . Malcom x told that in fascist era victim wiil potrait a
    By Abdulkadar Desai - 11/2/2019 1:15:55 AM

  • @Abdulkadar Desai Look back at Muslim rulers atrocities thru centuries on Hindus and their place of worship. Muslims must repent for that and b apologetic.
    By Vg Ramachandran - 11/2/2019 1:15:14 AM

  • If Muslims will give all Mosques to RSS Hindus even after Muslims cant earn theri goodwill One has to go through RSS ideology and book Baunch of thought of Guru Golwelkar
    By Abdulkadar Desai - 11/2/2019 1:14:50 AM

  • @Thiru Sethuraman You are right the invaders killed peaceful Indians and forcefully occupied their properties for their same natured succeessors who live in India gets all benefits but supports seperatists and terrorists and hates hindus .
    By Gyaneshwar Dayal Singhal - 11/2/2019 1:12:32 AM

  • @Basith Mehkri , really, how funny a man with a foreign religion demanding the destruction of a local mandir? You bastards subscribe to the barbaric ideology from the 7 th century Arabia and you have the nerve to talk about others. Name me absolutely one place you people live in peace with others. Just one. Every where you vermins go, you destroy peace there. For the last 1400 years, all you bastards have given the world is death and destruction. How can you be so bloody stupid to not realize that most of the houses of hate that you violent species visit every Friday is actually were old Hindu temples. Gujarat riots? Hmmm. If you are lying, try a better example. Get the fck out of India and go live in God forsaken Pakistan where the entire country think like you.
    By Thiru Sethuraman - 11/2/2019 1:11:32 AM

  • The blood thirsty scoundrels will never stop at grabbing one masjid. They have already planned to demolish more masjids.
    Don't forget that rioters and rapists who led Gujarat pogrom are ruling now

    By Basith Mehkri - 11/2/2019 1:10:30 AM

  • Aslia Since the site stands demolished. And muslims by their routine practice throng even busy roads and available nook or corner for worship of God, they now for any reason can't press for a particular place which had been abondoned for years.
    By Laxmi Chand - 11/2/2019 1:10:15 AM

  • To Sultan Shahin
    Secular Fabric is already turn apart by the fake people like you, when came in this website 4 years by reading the title "New Age Islam" I was exited, but find you same fake like Zakir Naik, only different version.
    As I have asked many time why you do not have any article on finding of Archeological finding of India, Also K K Mohmmad said on many occasions.
    If Muslims do win then they will gift our stolen place back that is how your narrative are.
    If you were neutral you would have put finding of Archelogical survey of my India and KK Mohmmad story.
    You fake another version of Zakir Naik version " yes I am Hindu if you call me from Indus Valley side". A fake sentence told by Zakir Naik 20 years ago all my Hindu friends were exited, but that I said he is hypocrate, he fooling by words,,same like you. New Age Islam, which has nothing new but another version to fool Hindus with your partners Arshad Alam and many more
    By Aayina - 10/31/2019 10:44:01 PM

  • Yes, let us by all means transform into a felicitation what has been a sore thumb for so long.

    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 10/31/2019 11:52:08 AM

  • In complete agreement with your views. Forgiveness love and joyful participation in our diversity is what makes life worth living.Ego and machismo are destructive We need to set them aside.
    By Amina Sherwani - 10/31/2019 2:30:04 AM

  • Brilliant article. Very well argued Sir! Impeccable religious references.As the British would say, I cannot agree with you more!
    By Dr Adil Rasheed - 10/30/2019 9:57:45 PM

  • A great and incisive write-up. If it is followed in true spirit, it will not only solve the festering problem but also send a positive message across the globe. After all, bringing in socio-religious harmony is the need of the hour. Like you, scholars and intellectuals should come forward and ensure that centuries of secular fabric is maintained in India and vested interests are not allowed to reap any dividends. Thanks for the brilliant piece.
    By A N Jha - 10/30/2019 9:56:54 PM

  • That's precisely what the Hindutva leaders tell Muslims - earn our goodwill,  don't question us.  We'll decide how you're going to live and don't stand up to that.  
    I think that's highly despicable.  More despicable when it comes from a Muslim.

    By Shabbir Hussain - 10/30/2019 9:55:59 PM