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‘India Today’ has no sympathy for the pain Taslima Nasreen has to suffer due to our flawed secularism: Ashok Chowgule

Many of the questions India Today asked of Taslimaji are really pathetic.  It clearly shows that the interviewer has no sympathy for the pain that she has to suffer due to the practice of secularism in India: Ashok Chowgule, vice-President, Vishwa Hindu Parishad

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from        Ashok Chowgule <ashokvc@chowgulegoa.com>

To               Sultan Shahin <Editor@NewAgeIslam.com>

date        16 January 2009 11:53

subject   Interview of Taslima Nasreen on India Today

 

Many of the questions asked of Taslimaji are really pathetic.  It clearly shows that the interviewer has no sympathy for the pain that she has to suffer due to the practice of secularism in India.

 

Let me list out these pathetic questions:

Q. Why should everybody be scared of publishing Taslima Nasreen?

Q. But is the government that powerful?

Q. Why didn't you get the support of the people? Are they impotent?

Q. Why don't you compromise with the CPM?

Q. Do you think the CPM exchanged you for votes? It was a deal?

Q. Is the prime minister serious about your return?

Q. Why don't you suck up to the CPIM if you are so desperate to live in Kolkata? Just some mere kowtowing?

Q. But what do these people have against you? I just do not understand...

 

It is also a reflection of the policy of the publication to allow this interview to be published.  What is all this about compromising with the CPM and sucking up to them?  Is this how a democracy would work?

 

Reminds me of an interview of Anu Aga by Shekar Gupta in the Indian Express of October 13.  She was asked: "But nobody from the government called and said don’t do this, you will have an Income-Tax raid." Clearly Shekarji thought that this is what the NDA government would do, because this is what was done by at least some of the previous governments.  And Anuji replied: "No, nothing."

 

And it is the CPM that is called democratic, secular, progressive, etc. While the exactly the opposite is said of the NDA.

 

Namaste

Ashok Chowgule

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The Interview in India Today:

Don't allow fanatics to rule: Taslima

Abhijit Dasgupta

Kolkata, January 2, 2009

 

Exiled Bangladeshi writer Taslima Nasreen pines for Kolkata, her adopted home. Ever since she was forced to leave the city after protests by fundamentalists, she has lived a desolate life in New York. Nasreen tells India Today's Abhijit Dasgupta that she now finds it difficult to concentrate on writing and yearns to return to the city she needs so sorely for inspiration. Excerpts from the interview:

 

Q: Why are you perpetually harping on the fact that you are homeless in the world? You seem to be moving around the globe and there would have been many people back in our country who would revel in such a situation.

Taslima: It is not my choice to become a nomad. Neither is it my choice to be homeless. I badly need a home.

 

Q. We know that and we are in full sympathy and support. What is it that you are working on now?

Taslima: It is very difficult to concentrate on my writings...When I have no place to live, and I am not allowed to live where I like to live.

 

Q. We understand the pain. But tell me what are you writing now?

Taslima: I am finishing a novel.

 

Q. What is it on?

Taslima: It's about Kolkata...

 

Q. When is that coming out?

Taslima: I am not sure. It is hard to get publishers. I am blacklisted and banned in both the Bengals. No Bengali newspaper publishes my articles…hardly any publisher dare to publish my books.

 

When the fanatics are against me, I get support from people, but when governments are against me, I lose almost all the support. People are scared of supporting me. Publishers are afraid to publish my books. I saw exactly the same thing happen in Bangladesh.

 

Q. Why should everybody be scared of publishing Taslima Nasreen?

Taslima: They should not, but they are. They think publishing my books or supporting me would show that they are against the government.

 

Q. But is the government that powerful?

Taslima: Government is always powerful. If the government supported me, I could easily live in Kolkata, the city I love the most, the city I need to be inspired.

 

Q. Why didn't you get the support of the people? Are they impotent?

Taslima: I don’t think they are impotent. I don’t like this word. I think civil society should not shut its mouth. They should protest against any kind of injustice. Most of the people have become immune to injustice. That is very alarming.

 

Q. And what about Bengal...don’t you think the situation here is alarming for the arts?

Taslima: As long as you compromise, it is fine. But for a writer like me, who is fighting for equality and justice, who has dedicated her life for secularism and for women's rights is not fine.

 

Q. Why don’t you compromise with the CPM?

Taslima: I have done nothing against the CPM. Actually, I always supported them.

 

Q. Then why did they throw you out?

Taslima: I don’t think my ideology and theirs are different. I had been living in Kolkata for years and suddenly the fanatics came out on the streets and demanded my deportation. I thought the government would protect me.

 

Q. You share the same ideology and they give you the boot. "Sounds strange. I am okay with you but when it comes to vote banks, I will ignore you"—sort of strange policy.

Taslima: But unfortunately, I am getting punished for no fault of mine. I am being punished for the crimes Islamic fundamentalists committed against me. I do not believe in religion, superstition, or any kind of dogmas. I believe in humanism, I don’t believe in consumerism or capitalism. I believe in equality and justice for all people. Don't you think communists have the same beliefs?

 

Q. If they did, then why did they surrender?

Taslima: I was thrown out of my own country 14 years ago. West Bengal was my home.... and still it remains a shock that I have been thrown out and will never be allowed to go there. Only they know why they surrendered, if they surrendered. But I don’t think the fanatics will love them (the Communists) for too long.

 

No political party, for the sake of the country, should surrender to the fanatics. But unfortunately you do not see this picture. The great politicians never give up their ideology for votes.

 

Q. How would you describe the CPM in one word?

Taslima: I can’t describe the CPM in one word. The CPM banned my book. But still even in my worst nightmares, I can never think that CPM would throw me out of Kolkata, my only refuge.

 

Q. Do you think the CPM exchanged you for votes? It was a deal?

Taslima: I don’t think they have earned a single vote by throwing me out. I am not subject worth that much...99% Muslims do not know about me. It's just handful of fanatics who use me for their political gain.

 

The politicians in many countries bow their heads in front of fanatics. It happens in the subcontinent. Instead of taking action against the fanatics who issue fatwas against me, the governments of both Bengals took action against me.

 

In India, it is heartbreaking when you take a decision to make an exiled writer homeless once again. I hope they will allow me in Kolkata again. I am not powerful, I am not a politician. If they do not open the door, if they do not show their sympathy and support, how can I go back home?

 

Q. Have you written to Governor Gopal Krishna Gandhi? He is a non-partisan man.

Taslima: He was very sympathetic to me. I always got his support.

 

Q. Any more support?

Taslima: Recently Manmohan Singh wrote a very good letter to someone. He wrote: '"India's glorious traditions of welcoming people irrespective of caste and creed, community and religion will continue, whatever be the odds. The atmosphere of hate being perpetuated by a small segment within the country will not prevent us from persisting with this tradition. We recognize Taslima Nasreen's right to remain in a country of her choice, viz., India in this case. She shall also have the option to choose whichever city or state she chooses".

 

Q. But why isn't the PM intervening? He compares you with The Dalai Lama in his letter and then forgets all about it. That is not the way a PM should react...

Taslima: Maybe somebody else is taking all the decisions regarding me. I do not have the foggiest idea as to how a government works.

 

Q. Did you contact anybody in the government?

Taslima: I wrote to the chief minister and foreign minister.

 

Q. Both are Bengalis...

Taslima: As a Bengali, I would like to trust Bengalis. If they are a bit considerate, I think the problems would be solved.

 

Q. Is the prime minister serious about your return?

Taslima: I believe one day I will be able to go back to Kolkata and live there. The door of Bangladesh is closed for me. I can't imagine the doors of India are permanently closed. I don’t know politics. I am against fundamentalism but then so are many others. But I am a soft target because I am just a mere writer, I am not influential, I do not have any organisation and above all, I am woman.

 

Q. But you are influential. You are Taslima Nasreen...

Taslima: I have some innocent readers who love me, that’s all. They are not united. You know something. You can fight fundamentalists but you can't cross swords with the government. And so I could not live where I want to live. Bengal is my place…Bengal is my home.

 

Q. What are you doing in New York?

Taslima: I am homeless everywhere...I move around and depend on friends to allow me to stay with them. I do not want to live in a Western country. It's an impossible situation. Emotionally and economically, it is very difficult.

 

Q. When did you last come to India?

Taslima: In August. I was only allowed to stay in Delhi. I could not go to my apartment in Kolkata. I wrote letters to both Buddhadeb babu and Pranab babu, I begged, pleaded and cried for getting the permission to be allowed to go back to Kolkata to survive as a writer. But it did not work. I did not get the permission. I had to quit my Kolkata home.

 

I have had to remove all my furniture from Kolkata and they are now lying in a sealed warehouse in Delhi. I asked Pranab babu whether I could visit Kolkata for just two days. It was refused.

 

Q. Why don't you suck up to the CPIM if you are so desperate to live in Kolkata? Just some mere kowtowing?

Taslima: The cruelty that I have seen...this is not the real India. I cannot act. I am not an actor, I am a writer. All I have is honesty. Why should I sacrifice that?

 

Q. What sort of cruelty have you seen?

Taslima: I sometimes wonder whether all that is happening around me is true...I am too stunned to react. .

 

Q. Any friends in the CPM?

Taslima: There were many people in CPM who support me...LF Chairman Biman Bose once told me so many stories of his adventures. He invited me to visit   his Vidyasagar Girls School.

 

Q. But what do these people have against you? I just do not understand...

Taslima: I don’t know. If they still believe in communism, I don’t think they have any reason to go against me. One day they will realise their folly. But that might happen after I die.

 

Q. Did you approach Sonia Gandhi?

Taslima: I did.

 

Q. Can I ask you a personal question?

Taslima: Shoot.

 

Q. Are you in love now? Any chances of marriage? Don't you want to become a mother?

Taslima: It would have been nice if I were in love. The answers of your three questions are, NO, NO and NO.

 

Q. Have you cut down on your smoking? The last time I met you years ago, you were smoking like a chimney...

Taslima: I stopped smoking in 2003.

 

Q. What about your cat? You miss her, don't you?

Taslima: When I had to leave Kolkata, my friends in Kolkata took care of her. I miss my Minu so much. But what can I do? There is nobody in India who could take care of her. She was sent to Dhaka with my brother. She is a great football player. She does not play anymore. She hardly eats. She is from Kolkata. She misses her wonderful life in Kolkata, she misses being with me.

 

Q. What are your plans?

Taslima: I have no future, everything is uncertain.

 

Q. If you were in Bangladesh now, who would you have voted for?

Taslima: I wouldn’t have voted for anyone.

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  • Where are the Maulanas? Give a reply to this!

     Sex In Paradise 

     

    By Ali Sina

     

    When the popular CBS documentary program '60 Minutes' aired the interview with a Palestinian terrorist who claimed that those who blow themselves killing many Israelis will go to Paradise and receive 70 houris, Muslims were outraged and as Joyse M. David on August 23, 2001 reported they claimed that the story of 70 Houris promised to those who fight and die in the name of Allah for killing the infidels is ‘fabricated’.   

    Davis writes: “The documentary by reporter Bob Simon examined the militant Islamic organization Hamas, which has claimed responsibility for dozens of suicide bombings against Israel. Muslim leaders charge that the report presented false stereotypes of Muslims and defamed their religion.” 

    She quotes the Muslims “scholar” Dr. Maher Hathout a member if the Islamic Center of Southern California, who said, "There is nothing in the Koran or in Islamic teachings about 70 virgins or sex in paradise. This is ridiculous, and any true Muslim knows that,". 

    I agree with Dr. Hathout that this is ridiculous, but I disagree with him when he says that there is nothing in the Quran or in Islamic teachings about the 70 virgins or sex in Paradise. If Dr. Hathout is truly an Islamic scholar he should have at least read the Quran. There are several references to the houris in Quran with details. Because I know Muslims always say that their critics quote “out of the context” I am going to quote the verses of the Quran speaking of the houris with the preceding and succeeding verses. 

    In Surah 44, Muhammad first describes the hell quite vividly. 

    43    Surely the tree of the Zaqqum, 

    44    Is the food of the sinful 

    45    Like dregs of oil; it shall boil in (their) bellies,

    46    Like the boiling of hot water.

    47    Seize him, then drag him down into the middle of the hell;

    48    Then pour above his head of the torment of the boiling water:

    49    Taste; you forsooth are the mighty, the honorable:

    50    Surely this is what you disputed about.

    After giving this dreadful description of the hell and the tortures preferred by Allah the Prophet promises lots of goodies to those who became Muslims.

    51    Surely those who guard (against evil) are in a secure place, 

    52    In gardens and springs; 

    53    They shall wear of fine and thick silk, (sitting) face to face; 

    54    Thus (shall it be), and We will wed them with Houris pure, beautiful ones.    

    In Surah 52 there is another description of the heaven and hell:

    17    Surely those who guard (against evil) shall be in gardens and bliss 

    18     Rejoicing because of what their Lord gave them, and their Lord saved them from the punishment of the burning fire.

    19    Eat and drink pleasantly for what you did, 

    20    Reclining on thrones set in lines, and We will unite them to large-eyed beautiful ones. 

    21    And (as for) those who believe and their offspring follow them in faith, We will unite with them their offspring and We will not diminish to them aught of their work; every man is responsible for what he shall have wrought. 

    22    And We will aid them with fruit and flesh such as they desire.

    23    They shall pass therein from one to another a cup wherein there shall be nothing vain nor any sin.

    Amazingly this paradise promised by the holy prophet satisfies even the paedophiles. 

    24 And round them shall go boys of theirs as if they were hidden pearls. 

     

    Also in Surah 76:19 Allah promises fresh youths to Muslim men. 

    And round about them shall go youths never altering in age; when you see them you will think them to be scattered pearls.

     

    Again in Surah 56 the Prophet gives the glad tidings of the paradise to his followers and says:

    59    And besides these two are two (other) gardens:

    60    Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?

    61    Both inclining to blackness.

    62    Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?

    63    In both of them are two springs gushing forth.

    64    Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?

    65    In both are fruits and palms and pomegranates.

    66    Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?

    67    In them are goodly things, beautiful ones.

    68    Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?

    69    Pure ones confined to the pavilions.

    70    Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?

    71    Man has not touched them before them nor jinni.

    72    Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?

    73    Reclining on green cushions and beautiful carpets.

    74    Which then of the bounties of your Lord will you deny?

    75    Blessed be the name of your Lord, the Lord of Glory and Honor!   

    In Surah 56  , there is promise of houris as well as youths that never age for the gratification of Muslim men. 

    11    These are they who are drawn nigh (to Allah), 

    12    In the gardens of bliss.

    13    A numerous company from among the first,

    14    And a few from among the latter.

    15    On thrones decorated, 

    16    Reclining on them, facing one another.

    17    Round about them shall go youths never altering in age, 

    18    With goblets and ewers and a cup of pure drink; 

    19    They shall not be affected with headache thereby, nor shall they get exhausted,

    20     And fruits such as they choose, 

    21    And the flesh of fowl such as they desire. 

    22    And pure, beautiful ones, 

    23    The like of the hidden pearls: 

    24    A reward for what they used to do.

     

    I believe this should suffice to prove that not only Allah promises "virgin houris" to the righteous Muslims but also “never-aging boys” as white as pearls.

    There are also several hadith that confirm sex in paradise. Hadith are the sayings of the Prophet. The following are few of them

     

    Sahih Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 402

    Narrated Abdullah bin Qais:

    Allah's Apostle said, "In Paradise there is a pavilion made of a single hollow pearl sixty miles wide, in each corner of which there are wives who will not see those in the other corners; and the believers will visit and enjoy them. And there are two gardens, the utensils and contents of which are made of silver; and two other gardens, the utensils and contents of which are made of so-and-so (i.e. gold) and nothing will prevent the people staying in the Garden of Eden from seeing their Lord except the curtain of Majesty over His Face."   

     

    The modern Muslim apologists try to present Islam as a religion of peace yet it is not hard to find many hadiths that call for war and promise great rewards in the other world and in this one to the Mujahid who takes the arm and fights for Allah.

    Bukhari V. 4, B 52, N 46

    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The example of a Mujahid in Allah's Cause-- and Allah knows better who really strives in His Cause----is like a person who fasts and prays continuously. Allah guarantees that He will admit the Mujahid in His Cause into Paradise if he is killed, otherwise He will return him to his home safely with rewards and war booty."

     

     Bukhari V. 4, B 52, N 48

    The Prophet said, ...  "Paradise has one-hundred grades which Allah has reserved for the Mujahidin who fight in His Cause,

     

     Bukhari V. 4, B 52, N 72

    Narrated Anas bin Malik:

    The Prophet said, "Nobody who enters Paradise likes to go back to the world even if he got everything on the earth, except a Mujahid who wishes to return to the world so that he may be martyred ten times because of the dignity he receives (from Allah)."

    Narrated Al-Mughira bin Shu'ba: Our Prophet told us about the message of our Lord that "Whoever amongst us is killed will go to Paradise." Umar asked the Prophet, "Is it not true that our men who are killed will go to Paradise and their's (i.e. those of the Pagan's) will go to the (Hell) fire?" The Prophet said, "Yes."

     

    The Hadiths like these abound and there are also many verses of Quran the glorify Jihad (holy wars). As it is clear these wars were not defensive but were offensive wars. See how Muhammad prepared his followers to attack the lands that had nothing to do with Islam. 

    Bukhari V. 4, B 52, N 48

    Narrated Khalid bin Madan:

    Um Haram informed us that she heard the Prophet saying, "Paradise is granted to the first batch of my followers who will undertake a naval expedition." Um Haram added, I said, 'O Allah's Apostle! Will I be amongst them?' He replied, 'You are amongst them.' The Prophet then said, 'The first army amongst' my followers who will invade Caesar's City will be forgiven their sins.' I asked, 'Will I be one of them, O Allah's Apostle?' He replied in the negative."

     

    Therefore it is safe to say that the essence of Islam is expressed in the following hadith. 

     Bukhari V. 4, B 52, N 73

    Narrated 'Abdullah bin Abi Aufa:

    Allah's Apostle said, "Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords."

     

    More articles from Ali Sina can be found at www.golshan.com and http://free.freespeech.org/rationalthinking


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  • Taliban’s Swift Justice

    By DR. GHAYUR AYUB

    Friday, 23 January 2009.

    WWW.AHMEDQURAISHI.COM

     

    ISLAMABAD, Pakistan—It was during a visit to Peshawar that I met a senior police officer. He narrated a story which was brow-raising. He told of a person from Bannu who lent Rs. 40,000 [approx. U.S. $500] to a man he knew, who promised that he would return it within a specified time. He told the borrower that he had saved up the said amount to help pay for his children's education. When the agreed time lapsed, he asked him to return the amount. The borrower started making excuses and after a few months he flatly refused and challenged the lender to do what ever he could. There is a Pukhtu word for it ‘Laas Da Azaad De’.

    The man went from pillar to post to seek justice but with no result. The police proved incapable as the borrower was a powerful man with strong connections. When he tried to knock on the door of the court for justice he was dismayed to hear that it would take months for the case to come to a hearing and years to reach a final judgment. After all that, the chances were that the verdict would go against him as he was up against powerful people. To top it off, he was told he had to pay Rs 1000 upfront every time he wanted to put his case forward for a hearing. This amount did not include the amount he was going to pay the lawyers. When he calculated it, the approximate amount turned out to be more than the actual amount he was going to seek justice for.

    At the end of every day, he would go back home heart broken; cursing his luck to be living in a country where there was no justice for the middle or poor classes. He tried to persuade the borrower by pleading with him, explaining how desperately he needed the money for his children’s education. He even offered a discount or to split the amount into installments, but all in vain. It was like hitting a brick wall. He felt dejected, helpless and powerless to see his children suffering just because he came from a stratum of a society pushed against the wall. 

    One evening, he heard a knock on the door. He opened it and saw two strangers with bushy beards standing outside. Thinking they were there to collect charity, he asked with irritation what they wanted. They told him that they saw him crying in the mosque and on enquiry they were told that someone was refusing to pay his money back. With a surprised look on his face, he asked them who they were.

    “We are local Taliban,” they said. Then they asked if he would let them have his side of story. He saw a ray of hope and ushered them in. After listening to his story, the Taliban told him that the borrower had committed an un-Islamic act, and if he wanted they could persuade him to return the said money. “We want your permission”. His heart jumped with flickering optimism and immense joy and without any hesitation, he gave them his consent. Before they left the premises they asked for 72 hours.

    According to the police officer, the Taliban went to the influential man and told him it was un-Islamic not to pay the amount he had borrowed from the man. They threatened that if he did not pay the debt back within 48 hours; he would bear the consequences. They also told him how Taliban had previously dealt with people like him. Shivers went through the spine of the ‘powerful’ man as he knew what their threat meant. With a dry mouth, frightened face and shaking body he nodded his head in agreement, promising he would return the amount. The next day, he went to the house of the lender and paid back the full amount he had refused up until then. He apologized for the delay and requested him to tell the Taliban not to harm him or his family and to let them know that he had returned the money. The Taliban never went back to ask whether he got the money back, but they must had been watching the development. From that day on, according to the police officer, that man became a strong supporter of Taliban. Could anyone blame him?

    Another related story about quick and effective justice comes from the Bugti tribe of Balochistan. According to electronic media, a man named Nazim Ali was refused his share in a dispute. According to him, he spent a lot of money to get justice from the court but failed because of corrupt practices. So he went to the tribal chief who referred him to the Jirga. The Jirga decided that he should walk on fire and if he was telling the truth he will not be burned. Nazim Ali agreed to it and in front of onlookers he walked on red hot coal. After the walk, people saw that his soles were not burned. The chief decided in his favour and he was given his due share.

    There are countless other stories of parallel justice systems running in Pakistan in the present day. These systems seem to be nippy and effective satisfying their poor clients. Some are Taliban style, others tribal style, sharing one commonality; they are swift, just and not stained with corruption.

    In my discussions with different walks of people living in the troubled parts of FATA and NWFP the vast majority agreed that the justice provided by Taliban is fair and quick. They might not agree with other activities related to Talibanization such as discouraging western education, burning of schools, gender discrimination etc; but they do appreciate the provision of justice served at the doorsteps with efficiency, audacity and honesty. Swift justice is the major achievement which attracts the poor people of Pakistan to Taliban.

    Dr. Ayub can be reached at turi555AThotmail.com


    By Gulzar -



  •  

    Many of the questions India Today asked of Taslimaji are really pathetic.  It clearly shows that the interviewer has no sympathy for the pain that she has to suffer due to the practice of secularism in India:( Ashok Chowgule, vice-President, Vishwa Hindu Parishad)

     

     

    Why is it, that all the enemies of Islam either external or within (Taslima etc) suddenly become best of Pals and centre of attractions  with the organisations like VHP etc? Is it coincidence or Prejudice? Or is it the feed of the kind of Politics these organisations are best at?  Before Mr. Chowgule delves into the definition of secularism in the eyes of various communities, he should take time to answer the questions above without ambiguity and hypocrisy please.


    By SAF RIZVI' -



  • In the last para of my comments, the words occuring as "Dr. Rizvi" may be read as Dr. Mirza, an error crept in inadvertently. Error regretted.


    By A.M. Jamsheed Basha, Chennai, India. -



  • Taslima Nasreen is no one to blame than herself. Taking up the cause of a community or people or class of people and voicing concern over their plight and fighting for their rights is different from denigrating the very religion in which she was born. She took up the cause of the Hindu minorities in Bangladesh and raised the issue of their plight to attract Govt attention was fine. No body seems to have objected to her love for the cause. But every body was up in arms against her, particularly the fundamentalist when she wrote something berating Islam in her Memoirs. If she had the character and strength to withstand such isolation, she would not have buckled under the pressure of the Islamists and agreed to remove certain objectionable passages from her Memoirs while she was in Kolkattah. Even the likes of Communists did not tolerate her for long. She was packed off immediately, when the heat was turned on by the fundamentalist in Kolkatta. Even the much pampered BJP in Rajesthan where she was especailly invited by Hindutva forces to use her against fundamentalist Islamists, could not entertain her for long fearing backlash. They too, buckled undere the pressure of fundamentalist Islamists. From there also she made an ignominous exit. The Central Govt too relented to the pressure of the Muslim community and refused to own her.

    The sudden love and affection showered on her by Mr. Ashok Chowgule and his VHP was nothing but to use her case to belittle the Muslim community indirectly while they attack the secularists.They made a heroine out of her ill tempered writings against Islam. But when snother woman writer, Teesta Setvlad took up the cause of Muslims in Gujarat, the same VHP and others called her anti-Hindu and anti-Indian. Because she did not serve their purpose but went all out to paint Modi black for his role in the state sponsored pogrom in Gujarat, where more than 3000 Muslims were killed, scores of women, children, aged Muslims were injured, hundreds rendered homeless. This is the hypocrisy of these VHP leaders.

    Ashok Chowgule has been in constant search of such Muslims who can write some third rated stuff against Islam and quotes their write ups as if to prove a point that all is not well with Muslims vis-a-vis Islam. He earlier quoted Dr. Mirza of Bangladesh to malign Islam as he gave an interview to the FrontPage magazine. This Dr. Rizvi's interview provided a perfect fodder to Ashok Chowgule, when he not only berated the very religion of Islam in which he was born and he even went to the extent of calling Quran, a man made book (Nawoozubillah) calling our Prohet Mohammed PBUH a Plagiarist (Nawoozubillah) alleging that he manufactured a book copying certain stories from other religious books like Bible and Tourah. One Taslima Nasreen, one Salman Rushdie and one Dr. Mirza, may satisfy the safron brigade but they would in no way could damage the strong and most popular religion called Islam, which is the religion of God and His Prophet Mohammed PBUH. Till such time that Taslima Nasreen repents for her follies, she would continue to suffer homelessness in this world and hereafter. She thought she would be sheltered by Safron Brigade for ever in India, but she did not understand that would soon disown her once their short term objective of berating Islam is achieved. Exactly same thing happened when she was asked to pack up from Rajasthan last. Now she is homeless. How long she could lead a life of a traveller. It is advisable for her to disown all her blasphamy works and tender unconditional apology to Muslims of the world. This would help her to reclaim her citizenship in Bangladesh.

     


    By A.M. Jamsheed Basha, Chennai, India. -



  • Dear Mr. SAF Rizvi,

     

    Thanks very much indeed for pointing this out. The offending comment has been removed. As the site acquires greater popularity, it is also attracting the attention of some enemies of civilisation. First the Hacker and now this. I would request other readers too to point out such offensive remarks to me as soon as possible, so that such dirty comments can be deleted. Thanks again, Mr. Rizvi.

     

    Sultan Shahin


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  • Dear Sultan Shahin

    Please go through the posts which is copied below and If you deem fit, remove them, as the language used is street side and filthy, I understand your good site is for educated and civilized  people and not a chat room for  people of dirty  blood to litter their garbage.


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  • Teesta Setalvad, Romila Thapar, Noam Chomsky, Arundhati Roy , Deepa Mehta etc.etc.

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    "If [the film] 'Fire' is allowed to be screened, lesbianism would spread like wildfire through all the girls' hostels." Bal Thackeray, Outook Magazine, 1998.

    A powerful organisation of Indian Islamic clerics promised to help Christian groups launch protests if the authorities did not ban the screening of the controversial film, “The Da Vinci Code”. When Scorsese's Last Temptation of Christ was released in 1988 in the face of Christian protests, one cinema in Paris, France was burned to the ground by right-wingers for showing the movie.
    Protests against the movie from the religious community began before the film had even finished production. The studio was expecting a backlash due to the controversies revolving around any media treatment of Christ (see dramatic portrayals of Jesus Christ), but the protests accompanying Last Temptation were unprecedented. Major religious leaders in the United States blasted the film in fiery sermons, and condemned its subject matter as pornographic. On October 22, 1988, a French catholic fundamentalist group launched molotov cocktails inside the Parisian saint Michel movie theater to protest against the film projection. This terrorist attack injured thirteen people, four of them where severely burned. The movie includes a disclaimer explaining that it departs from the commonly-accepted biblical portrayal of Jesus' life, and that it is not intended to be an exact re-creation of the events detailed in the Gospels.
    During the year 2000 the film Water, which was to be directed by Deepa Mehta (the third film of the trilogy after Fire and Earth). It was to be a period piece about the plight of widows in India to be made in the city of Varanasi. After many protests and threats of violence from various political/religious parties, the filming was stopped before it ever really had a chance to begin.
    Deepa Mehta completed Water in Sri Lanka after protests in India The movie Water, which triggered violent protests while being filmed in India, will open the Toronto International Film Festival.  Directed by Deepa Mehta, the movie follows the lives of Hindu widows. Filming in India was abandoned  after hardline Hindu protesters burned its sets, claiming the movie distorted Indian culture. Filming was completed in Sri Lanka.
    Many might scent dark neo-imperialist conspiracy here, as raids on gay bars are not yet a local issue in India. But what is a local issue, undoubtedly, is the existence of Section 377 on the statute books, according to which homosexuals can be awarded imprisonment for up to 10 years. And sooner or later the issue might capture the attention of the neo-Hindu right which is obsessed, after all, with questions of numbers and demographics. A marriage between Article 377 and a conservative BJP-type government could yield as offspring some serious persecution of sexual minorities. The ire visited by the Shiv Sena upon 'Fire', a film depicting a lesbian relationship between two women, can be a precursor of things to come. 
    Notes and References.
    Christians, Muslims unite against ‘Da Vinci’
    http://www.dawn.com/2006/05/16/int10.htm
    The Last Temptation of Christ
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Temptation_of_Christ
    http://www.hrw.org/reports98/chile/Chilerpt-06.htm
    Torched by protesters, a piece of the Water set burns  An acclaimed auteur’s new film gets caught in the cultural crossfire BY JASMINE YUEN-CARRUCAN
    April 2000 | Issue 28 Copyright © 2000 by Jasmine Yuen-Carrucan
    Jasmine Yuen-Carrucan has worked in various production roles on commercials and feature films since 1995. She lives in Australia.
    http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/28/water.html

    Letters and statements that have been sent to the Prime Minister of India and the Chief Minister of the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh protesting the decision to block the production of Deepa Mehta's latest film Water in that state and against the ongoing campaign by Hindu fundamentalist organisations to prevent the film from being made anywhere in India.
    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/apr2000/dmc-a07.shtml
    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/apr2000/dmc-a07.shtml
    Hindu widows film opens festival
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/4633397.stm

    The BJP & Deepa Mehta's 'Water': Strife as Diversion and Design 26 February 2000 The Times of India Saffron Herrings Strife as Diversion and Design By SIDDHARTH VARADARAJAN

    svaradarajan.blogspot.com/2000/

    02/bjp-deepa-mehtas-water-strife-as.html

    http://www.globalgayz.com/g-india.html

    http://www.samarmagazine.org/archive/article.php?id=60


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  • Teesta Setalvad, Romila Thapar, Noam Chomsky, Arundhati Roy etc.etc.
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    What a tragedy that at the drop of hat we Muslims [no matter from where]  start quoting Secular and Leftist thinkers when their point view support the so-called Muslim Political Thoughts on Palestine, War On Terror and Hindutva etc.etc but we pick silence on this burning issue, read an indepth study conducted by Pakistani/Indian Hisotrian and Educationists
    PAKISTAN:


    The Subtle Subversion: The state of Curricula and Textbooks in Pakistan. reasons was from Pervez Hoodbhoy and A. H. Nayyar
     www.sdpi.org/whats_new/reporton/State%20of%20Curr&TextBooks.pdf
    INDIA:


    Teesta Setalvad: How text books teach prejudice
    http://www.colaco.net/3/textbook%20prejudice.htm

    Communalism Repository
    http://www.sacw.net/DC/CommunalismCollection/ArticlesArchive/index.html


    By Aamir Mughal -



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    Peace Power <anamin...@gmail.com
    You Have Made Me Your Human Bomb"

    I am the product of your tyranny. You have dissected the leftovers of my country into bits and pieces of shantytowns, ghettoes and concentrations camps. You have cut off my water supply and left me thirsty while you the Israelis bathe in cooled pools not far from where I live. You have uprooted my trees and desecrated my fieldsmaking sure I have no way to sustain myself or those who depend on me.
    You have cut off medical supplies that treat the wounded and at your checkpoints, you detain and humiliate Palestinians and prevent those who are in dire need of medical assistance to pass through causing my people who are your victims to die at your impromptu borders.

    You assassinate my freedom fighters while explaining to the world that you are merely defending your own squatters. You shoot to kill little
    children who in defiance and courage wield small stones in the name of liberty against you the fiercely armed enemy.
    You torture the children and resistance fighters you incarcerate and try to bribe or coerce my people into collaborating against one another. You bulldoze homes and you prevent me from earning a living.
    You kill me by remote control from your US made Apache helicopters
    and your settlers who squat on what you have left me of my land throw firebombs into my dwellings and on my passageways, attack my children and womenfolk with guns and clubs and hate.

    You occupy my land and on my bloodstained hills station your tanks and armored jeeps in order to shoot off one by one little children playing in the streets.

    You take over the Orient House, my one symbol of freedom that was donated by a man worth all Israelis, while at the same time you
    starve the orphans just across the street.

    You shoot out my water tanks and you kill off Palestinian servicemen even though at the time of your brutal massacres, these servicemen
    were patrolling their land or simply eating their last supper. You cut off my electricity so you can assassinate me more easily in the dank shadows of your dark treachery.

    You are cowards and you are afraid of little Palestinian children with stones. You never kill them single handedly. You roam in groups like packs of wild dogs and you are just as vicious if not more so.
    You leave me and my people without hope and when you have driven me
    into a corner and deprived me of all that is human, I react with
    anger and bitterness. I strap explosives onto my body and search for a place
    to detonate myself. Yes, I kill your civilians, but this is the price
    you have to pay for taking away my inalienable rights, the rights that all men are entitled to for your demoniacal oppression of my people.

    It is really very simple. God created all men equal and no man better than any other. Yet, somehow you have made it your protocol that Jews
    are better than all others and that you have the right to come to my land committing rape and plunder yet expect me to thank you for doing
    so.

    Just the other day, a young boy was eating lunch. One of your settlers who came from America threw a firebomb into this boy’s house. His two
    brothers were killed immediately. But the one boy survived horribly disfigured. His name is Amar Emeera. His scars have turned a once
    beautiful child into a grotesque being that does not even look human.
    What did this child do to go through life so horribly disfigured?

    You shoot babies point blank while swaddled in their parent’s arms in
    Palestinian cars going to weddings. You slay Palestinian children
    going to and from school and you slaughter Palestinian children when
    they fight your armies with their bare hands. One such child, Mohammed
    Abu Arrar was shot down and killed when he protested your occupation of his land. Palestinian relatives of the boy kissed his body laid
    out in his coffin before he was taken away to be buried in the Gaza
    Strip.

    You kill unarmed Palestinian fathers on their way to buy school supplies and books for their children. You have even run out of
    excuses for the atrocities you continue to perpetrate. You shell the homes of Palestinian families, instantly killing the occupants and
    then claim that the action was friendly fire from the Palestinians even though the homes were far removed from the scene of the battle
    and even though remnants of your American made shells are scattered
    about the demolished homes of the innocent. You collectively punish 3 million Palestinians half of whom are children who reside on what is left of their own land though you know
    full well that their only desire is to free themselves from your
    barbaric cruelty. You tell the world that you want peace yet at every corner, at every instance, you are as far from peace as the earth is from a different
    universe speeding in an opposite direction.
    You speak peace with the forked tongues of your warmongers and then pretend shock when finally a Palestinian human bomb blows himself up.
    You will only be free of the threat of human bombs when you seek a just and comprehensive peace and when you end your occupation of the
    indigenous inhabitants of Palestine.

    By: Edna Yaghi

    NOTE. You say you are an MD.  Find a garbage truck to work on.  You
    are most suited for that kind of job. Many posters are more qualified
    educationally and professionally than you are.  Trashy bastard!

     

     


    By Peace Power -



  •  

    US kills transatlantic airline plot leader - another shitskin moslem
    bites the dust - British Islamist Rashid Rauf was killed by missile
    attack in north-west Pakistan - British Muslim terrorist Rashid Rauf,
    who planned the 2006 transatlantic airline plot, was killed by a US
    missile attack in north-west Pakistan today - Rauf, who is originally
    from Birmingham and fled Britain after the murder of his uncle, was said
    to have been killed along with at least four other militants with links
    to al-Qaida. - "The transatlantic bombing plot alleged mastermind Rahsid
    Rauf was killed along with an Egyptian a operative in the US missile
    strike in North Waziristan early Saturday," a senior security official
    told AFP. -
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/22/transatlantic-airline-ras...

     


    By Rauf -



  •  

    Bali nightclub bombers executed - Three Muslim men convicted of killing
    202 people in a 2002 bombing at two nightclubs on the Indonesian island
    of Bali were executed by firing squad early Sunday, attorneys said. -
    fucking their 72 virgin goats already BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA  -
    http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/08/bali.bombings/index.html


    By Bali nightclub -



  • Many of the questions India Today asked of Taslimaji are really pathetic.  It clearly shows that the interviewer has no sympathy for the pain that she has to suffer due to the practice of secularism in India: Ashok Chowgule, vice-President, Vishwa Hindu Parishad

     

     

    Why is it that all the enemies of Islam either external or within (Taslima etc) suddenly become best of Pals and centre of attractions  with the organisations like VHP etc? Is it coincidence or Prejudice? Or is it the feed of the kind of Politics these organisations are best at?  Before Mr. Chowgule delves into the definition of secularism in the eyes of various communities, he should take time to answer the questions above without ambiguity and hypocrisy please.

     

     

     


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