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The Ahadith That Distort The Message Of The Quran - Part I



By Naseer Ahmed, New Age Islam

14 July 2016

There isn’t a subject on which the Ahadith do not mislead vis-à-vis the clear message of the Quran whether it is war, divorce, female witnessing, inheritance, or even the hajj. In this article, we discuss one Hadith which is causing the greatest damage and is truly satanic in its scope. Consider the following Hadith:

The Tafseer of Ibn Kathir on verses 2:191 to 193 and 8:36 to 8:38 quotes a Hadith collected in the two Sahihs in which the Prophet (pbuh) is alleged to have said:

«أُمِرْتُ أَنْ أُقَاتِلَ النَّاسَ، حَتَّى يَقُولُوا: لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا اللهُ، فَإِذَا قَالُوهَا عَصَمُوا مِنِّي دِمَاءَهُمْ وَأَمْوَالَهُمْ، إِلَّا بِحَقِّهَا، وَحِسَابُهُمْ عَلَى اللهِ عَزَّ وَجَل»

(I was commanded to fight against the people until they proclaim, `There is no deity worthy of worship except Allah.' If and when they say it, they will preserve their blood and wealth from me, except for its right (Islamic penal code), and their reckoning is with Allah, the Exalted and Most Honoured.)"

The abovementioned Hadith has not only distorted the message of the Quran, but made Muslims believe in a false history of early Islam for which there is no evidence. It is believed perhaps by all scholars, that the Christians and the Jews under the political authority of the Prophet (pbuh) were given the option to pay Jizya or face war, but the polytheists had no choice but to accept Islam or be killed. Nothing can be farther from the truth. Consider verse 9:29 translated by Yusuf Ali:

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission.

Who are the people who do not believe in Allah and the last day? Are they the Jews and Christians? Certainly not! The only people the Quran accuses of not believing in Allah and the last day are the “Mushrikin” or the polytheists. There are numerous verses that speak of the Jews and the Christians but not even one verse accuses them of not believing in Allah or the last day. There are also numerous verses that speak of the “Mushrikin” which accuse them of not believing in the last day and associating partners with Allah or disbelieving both in Allah and the Last Day (44:35, 50:3, 56:47). How do the scholars then connect this part of the verse with the Jews and Christians and not with the “Mushrikin” or the polytheists? They are misled by the quoted Hadith according to which, the Mushrikin forfeited their right to life if they did not accept Islam and therefore there was no question of their being given the choice of paying Jiziya and continue to live as polytheists.  A truly satanic Hadith is made to prevail on a very clear message of the Quran!

The Jews and the Christians are accused of not holding that forbidden which has been forbidden by Allah and his messenger (4:161, 5:42, 5:62,63) and not acknowledging the religion of Truth. The subject of the latter part of the verse is therefore the Jews and the Christians. The verse therefore covers the Polytheists, the Jews and the Christiana and all of them are given a choice to willingly pay Jiziya or face war.

Yusuf Ali appears to show a correct understanding by saying “(even if they are) of the People of the Book” implying thereby, that the subject of the verse is primarily the polytheists and such of the people of the Book who do not hold forbidden that “which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth”

Let us now see the contortions that Muhammad Asad goes through to make the meaning fit the Hadith cited:

9:29 [And] fight against those who - despite having been vouchsafed revelation [aforetime]- do not [truly] believe either in God or the Last Day, and do not consider forbidden that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and do not follow the religion of truth [which God has enjoined upon them] till they [agree to] pay the exemption tax with a willing hand, after having been humbled [in war].

    Notice how he struggles with the first part of the verse:

[And] fight against those who - despite having been vouchsafed revelation [aforetime]- do not [truly] believe either in God or the Last Day.”

If the Christians and the Jews who believe in God and the last day are to be accused of not believing, then the only way to do so was to say that they do not “truly” believe. He puts “truly” in parenthesis because it is not there in the Quran. So were they hypocrites? And if so, why does the Quran not make it clear that although the Jews and the Christians claim to believe, they do not truly believe? The Quran is quite unmistakably talking about people who are by their own account disbelievers in Allah and the Last Day and not those who claim to believe but actually do not. The simple truth is that this part of the verse does not refer to the Christians and the Jews but to the Polytheists.

Asad continues to struggle trying to reconcile the first part of the verse with the second part and says: “Since, earlier in this sentence, the people alluded to are accused of so grave a sin as wilfully refusing to believe in God and the Last Day, it is inconceivable that they should subsequently be blamed for comparatively minor offences against their religious law”

Why is he blind and deaf to the simple truth that the first part refers to the Polytheists and the second part to the Jews and the Christians? The cited Hadith is to blame.

This is how he tries to reconcile the two parts “: consequently, the stress on their "not forbidding that which God and His apostle have forbidden" must refer to something which is as grave, or almost as grave, as disbelief in God. In the context of an ordinance enjoining war against them, this "something" can mean only one thing - namely, unprovoked aggression: for it is this that has been forbidden by God through all the apostles who were entrusted with conveying His message to man. Thus, the above verse must be understood as a call to the believers to fight against such - and only such - of the nominal followers of earlier revelation as deny their own professed beliefs by committing aggression against the followers of the Qur'an (cf. Manar X, 338).” 

In effect, what Muhammad Asad is trying to say, is that the Quran is asking the Muslims to fight against the Jews and Christians, only if they fight against them, and then after defeating them, impose Jizya on them! If that is what the Quran wanted to say, isn’t there a simpler and clearer way? Those who interpret the Quran in the light of the highly unreliable Ahadith, make it appear as a Book of crooked deviousness (God forbid) which none can understand without the help of these scholars.

The subject of Jiziya is covered in detail in my article:

The Story of the Prophetic Mission of Muhammad (pbuh) From the Qu’ran (Part 6): The People of the Book and Jiziya

The other verses that are misinterpreted on account of the cited hadith are verses 8:36 to 8:38 to imply falsely, that the Prophet’s battles were to end not only religious persecution and aggression by the polytheists but to end “shirk” itself. This is covered in my article:

The Story of the Prophetic Mission of Muhammad (pbuh) in the Qu’ran (Concluding Part) Summary

These are similar to verses 2:191 to 2:193 which are also misinterpreted to mean that fighting is ordained not only to end the “Fitna” of religious persecution and establish the “Deen of Allah”, but to end polytheism. The “Deen of Allah” clearly stands for “no compulsion in religion” and to allow the wilful but peaceful rejecters of the faith “to follow their own way”.

Let us now examine the end game after the Prophet conquered Mecca and within the next year and a half defeated all other tribes who had fought against the Muslims earlier and brought the entire Arabian Peninsula under his political authority. This is covered in Surah Taubah.

The Final Judgment

This was the time for Allah to pronounce His judgment that was repeatedly warned in the Meccan Surahs. Allah had spared the Meccans destruction by an act of God when Muhammad (pbuh) was driven out of Mecca. A few of the remaining chiefs of Unfaith were executed after the conquest of Mecca.

Surah Taubah the second last Surah in chronological order was revealed roughly 18 months after the conquest of Mecca by which time all remaining pockets of resistance were overcome. The war was mostly with the Meccans and their allies who were all Mushrikin. Notice when Mushrik is used and when kafir is used in these verses.

Verses 9:1 and 9:2 declare amnesty of four months to all Mushrikin but with a warning that the Kafirun among them will be covered with shame at the end of the period.

9:3 and 9:4 announces dissolution of all treaties with the Mushrikin except with those who never broke their treaty and warns the Kafirun (not Mushrikin) of a grievous penalty.

Verse 9:5 is a command to kill all Mushrikin at the end of the four month period with the exception of:

1.       Those who never broke their treaty or never fought the Muslims (9:4)

2.       Those who accept Islam offer prayers and pay Zakat (9:5)

3.       Those who seek asylum (9:6)

If the command was to kill only the kafir, then the problem would have been how to identify them since there was no longer an enemy standing in battle. The verse identifies the non kafir among the Mushrikin through the exceptions listed above. The rest of the verses are by way of justification and evidence of the Kufr practiced by those who are to be killed which covers all the Mushrikin except those who never broke their treaty with the Muslims or never fought against them or those who seek asylum. Asylum seekers are not defiant and therefore not kafir.

The following verses are further proof that the cause for fighting is not for the Kufr of faith or belief which is known only to Allah, but for the kufr of violating oaths and covenants, for having plotted to expel the Messenger, and for being the first to assault the Muslims. There is no command to kill for simple unbelief.

(9:12) But if they violate their oaths after their covenant, and taunt you for your Faith,- fight ye the chiefs of Unfaith ( a-Immat-al-Kufri) : for their oaths are nothing to them: that thus they may be restrained.(13) Will ye not fight people who violated their oaths, plotted to expel the Messenger, and took the aggressive by being the first (to assault) you?

Those “Kafaru” who had actively opposed Islam, fought wars, broke their treaties and remained defiant even after the four month amnesty period were to be put to the sword. How many people fell in this category? I have not been able to find any account of those killed after the amnesty period and it would appear that all of them had either accepted Islam, or sought refuge or migrated to a neighbouring country.

What of those who never broke their treaties but whose treaties had also expired and those who sought asylum but not accepted Islam? As per 9:29, they could continue to follow their own religion but pay Jizia. It would appear that none fell in this category either which should not be surprising at all. Once the remaining Chiefs of Unfaith had either accepted Islam or migrated, the rest of the people had no impediment in accepting Islam and entered the religion in large numbers as evidenced by the last Surah in chronological order viz, Surah An-Nasr / Divine Support

(110:1) When comes the Help of Allah, and Victory,

(2) And thou dost see the people enter Allah´s Religion in crowds,

(3) Celebrate the praises of thy Lord, and pray for His Forgiveness: For He is Oft-Returning (in Grace and Mercy).

Not a single person was killed for simple unbelief and the principle of  “Let there be no compulsion in religion” and “To (peaceful rejecter of faith ) be his way and to me mine” was never violated either by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) or by any of the previous prophets and these are the eternal principles of the Deen of Allah.

Scholars including the most moderate Javed Ghamidi are thrown totally off the track on account of the cited Hadith. Javed Ghamidi maintains that at the end of the Prophetic mission, all those who do not accept belief are either destroyed by an act of God or put to the sword by the Prophet and his armies since the Kufr of disbelief is established against them. There is no verse in the Quran which justifies killing for the Kufr of simple disbelief. From the example of the previous prophets’ missions, it is not difficult to see that he is mistaken. Moses preached in Egypt for several years assisted by nine signs of Allah and yet very few believed. The Kafaru killed by drowning were only the Pharaoh and those who followed him with intent to kill Moses and the Children of Israel. These alone were the Kafaru (enemies of Allah and his Prophet) among the non-believers and they alone were killed by Allah by drowning them in the sea. Before Moses, Prophet Yusuf preached in Egypt and yet there were no believers among the Egyptians when Moses began to preach. It would appear that not many accepted belief at the end of Prophet Yusuf’s mission and yet none were killed either by the sword or by an act of God.

All the rejecters of faith appear to have been peaceful rejecters and therefore none were destroyed. In the case of Prophet Yunus, all the people (some hundred thousand) accepted belief and none were killed/destroyed. The Hadith has misled all the scholars and the Ulema and must be categorized among the satanic Ahadith and rejected. This misinterpretation is at the root of the religious oppression that the Muslims are today practicing on their minorities. The so called Muslims who do this are the Kafirs of today by the Quran’s definition of kafir which means the oppressors and especially the religious persecutors. There is no compulsion in religion and there never was by any of the Prophets of Allah and their true followers. Those who fight peaceful non-Muslims to destroy “shirk” are the followers of Satan.

Naseer Ahmed is an Engineering graduate from IIT Kanpur and is an independent IT consultant after having served in both the Public and Private sector in responsible positions for over three decades. He is a frequent contributor to NewAgeIslam.com

URL: http://newageislam.com/islamic-ideology/naseer-ahmed,-new-age-islam/the-ahadith-that-distort-the-message-of-the-quran---part-i/d/107957

URL of Part 2: http://newageislam.com/islamic-ideology/naseer-ahmed,-new-age-islam/the-ahadith-that-distort-the-message-of-the-quran-–-part-two/d/107984

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TOTAL COMMENTS:-   12


  • Dear Rashid Sahab,

    You have actually hurt my sentiments by pairing at-Tabari, and al-waqidi (who specialized in different domains) and by demeaning each of them as 'carpet-baggars hadith junkies.' This is what i wrote about the contribution of hadith in the early centuries of Islam:
     "For its era, the knowledge contained in the Hadith enabled the growing Muslim community to lead a peaceful, harmonious and progressive life and contributed to the phenomenal rise of Islam."

    Re:

    http://newageislam.com/islamic-sharia-laws/evolution-of-hadith-sciences-and-need-for-major-paradigm-shift-in-role-of-hadith-corpus-and-scope-of-madrasa-education/d/6581


    As to the backgrounds of at-Tabari and al-Waqidi, here is a heads up:

    al-Tabari (d. 313/926) is of Persian origin and credited with the compilation of one of the earliest and most elaborate works on tafsir [jami al-bayan fi tafsir al-Qur'an];


    As recorded in his wikipedia: "Today, he is best known for his expertise in tafsir, fiqh, and history, but he has been described as "an impressively prolific polymath. He wrote on such subjects as poetry, lexicography, grammar, ethics, mathematics, and medicine."[3]


    As for al-Waqidi, he lived almost a hundred years before Tabari's era and was of Arab origin - born in Medina 748AD died in 822 AD. He is one of the earliest biographers of the Prophet.

    The records they left are based on the materials - largely hadith that they had on hand. If the posterity take them as historically accurate records, the fault is not theirs but of Islamic scholarship, the weakness of which is betrayed in your rash comments - though God knows best.    


    At-Tabari and al-Waqidi, thoroughly discredited historians and carpet- baggers hadith junkies from Central Asia are the sources of that book. - See more at: http://www.newageislam.com/islamic-ideology/naseer-ahmed,-new-age-islam/the-ahadith-that-distort-the-message-of-the-quran---part-i/d/107957#sthash.WhXi7RAJ.dpuf

    By muhammad yunus - 7/18/2016 8:56:58 AM



  • شبهة أمرت أن أقاتل الناس يوم 20 / 1 / 2015 
    =========================== 
    بسم الله والحمد لله والصلاة والسلام علي رسول الله وعلي أله وصحبه ومن تبعهم بإحسان الي يوم الدين ثم أما بعد .. 
    أعداء الإسلام يتهمون ديننا الاسلامي بالتطرف والارهاب والعنف فتارة يربطوه بسلوك بعض المسلمين المنحرفين عن منهج الإٍسلام القويم ، وتارة يأتون بأيات واحاديث يفسرونها بما يفهمون هم ولا يرجعون الي التفسيرات الإسلامية المعتمدة ، فعلمائنا ما تركوا شيئا إلا وتحدثوا فيه علي قدر المستطاع في أوقاتهم ..
    ومن هذه الإفتراءات حديث النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ف الحديث الصحيح ...

    أُمِرْتُ أن أقاتلَ الناسَ ، وفي روايةٍ : أُمِرْتُ أن أقاتلَ الناسَ حتى يقولوا : لا إله إلا اللهُ . فإذا قالوا : لا إله إلا اللهُ عَصَمُوا مِنِّى دماءَهم وأموالَهم إلا بحَقِّها . وحسابُهُم على اللهِ . ثم قرأ : إِنَّمَا أَنْتَ مُذَكِّرٌ . لَسْتَ عَلَيْهِمْ بِمُسَيْطِرٍ [ 88 / الغاشية / آية 21 ، 22 ] .
    الراوي:جابر بن عبدالله المحدث:مسلم المصدر:صحيح مسلم 
    ************************************************************
    الرد :-
    بداية نقول أن الذين قالوا أن الحديث غير صحيح نقول لهم بل الحديث صحيح وشهد له الجميع بالصحة فرواه أبو هريرة وسبعة مع أبو هريرة ثم رواه عن أبو هريرة رضي الله عنه وأرضاه 30 نفس ، إذا ً الحديث صحيح لا غبار عليه ابدا
    طيب كيف يستقيم ذلك ؟ النبي رحمة للعالمين ، كيف يقول أمرت أن اقاتل الناس اليس هذا غريب ؟ الاجابة 
    النبي بلا شك رحمة للعالمين قال الله ( وما أرسلناك إلا رحمة للعالمين ) طيب كيف رحمة للعالمين وكيف يقول أمرت أن أقاتل الناس ,, هنا النبي يقول أُمرت , أي انه مأمور من قبل الله جل وعلا..هذا اولا ً 
    .ثانيا 
    نمسك بقي ألفاظ الحديث الشريف ونشوف معانيه.
    الناس ثلاثة . إما } مؤمن . منافق . كافر . اليس كذلك {

    طيب تعالى بينا نضع كل من المؤمن والمنافق والكافر مكان كلمة الناس .
    - أمرت أن أقاتل ( المؤمنين ) حتى يشهدوا ان لا اله الا الله ؟ أكيد لا 
    - أمرت أن أقاتل ( المنافق )حتى يشهدوا أن لت اله الا الله اكيد لا لان المنافق يقول لا اله الا الله .
    يبقي فاضل مين ؟؟؟ أيوه صح فعلا ( الكافرين )
    يبقي أمرت أن أقاتل ( الكافرين ) حتي يشهدوا ان لا اله الا الله . هكذا يستقيم الحديث وهذا هوالمفهوم الصحيح للحديث ..، 
    قد يقول قائل الكافرون على إطلاقها ؟؟ الإجابة :-
    الأئمة الأربعه :- أجمعوا علي أن كلمة ( الناس ) عموم يراد بها خصوص وورد هذا الأسلوب في القرآن الكريم في أكثر من موضع ومنه الموضع اللي حضرتك ذكرته ( الذين قال لهم الناس إن الناس قد جمعوا لكم فاخشوهم ) مستحيل مبدئيا ان يراد بالناس الاولي كل الناس صحيح ؟؟؟؟
    فهل يمكن ان تُطلق لفظه الناس علي فرد واحد ؟ الاجابه
    قال الله (( الذين قال لهم الناس ان الناس قد جمعوا لكم فاخشوهم.فزادهم إيمانا وقالوا حسبنا الله ونعم الوكيل )).
    و الناس هنا أطلقت علي شخص واحد فقط وهو ( نعيم بن مسعود الثقفي ) مع أنه شخص واحد الا انه أطلق عليه لفظة الناس وهي كلمة عامة
    سؤال ....
    - هل القران أستخدم هذا الاسلوب في مواضع اخري ؟ 
    الإجابة :- نعم 
    في حادثة طوفان نوح قال الله ( وفجرنا الأرض عيونا ً ) هل كلمة الارض اي ان كل الارض ؟؟؟؟ ام المنطقه التي فيها سيدنا نوح فقط 
    في قصة طوفان نوح ، معلوم أن كل رسول أرسل الي قومه فهل يستقيم أن نوح عليه السلام يٌرسل الي قومه وهناك بشر لم تصلهم الرسالة بعد ُ و يغرق الله الارض كلها بما فيها ؟ 
    اكيد الكل هيقول لاه .. طيب نفهم من كدا ايه ؟؟
    نفهم ايضأ ان كلمه الارض كلمه عامه ولكنها اطلقت علي خاص وهو المكان او القريه التي كان فيها سيدنا نوح او قوم سيدنا نوح ............. أليس كذلك ؟
    الأن بعد أن أصلنا المسأله وان المراد بكلمه الناس هناليس كل الناس علي وجهه الأرض , وجب علينا ان نعرف لماذا يقاتل النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم وهذا ما ذكره ابن تيميه رحمة الله تعالى عليه في شرحه للحديث وتعليقه عليه ....... فالسؤال .. لماذا يقاتل النبي ؟ 
    الاجابه هي ...
    النبي يقاتل خلي بالكم من كلمة يقاتل أي انه لا يعتدي بل هو يُعتدي عليه فيرد العدوان .. ( فمن أعتدي عليكم فأعتدوا عليه بمثل ما أعتدي عليكم )، النبي طوال فتره حياته في الحروب و الجهاد لم يقتل الا شخص واحد فقط اذا فكان النبي يحارب ولكنه لا يعتدي ايضا بل هو يدافع يدافع لا يهجم هو علي الشخص الكافر المُحارب الذي أمامه ... إلا إذا دعت الحاجة إلى ذلك كنقض عهد أو أعترض بعض الكفار طريق النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم في الدعوة فهنا يدعوهم إلى الإسلام إن رفضو طلب منهم الجزية إن رفضو فيحاربهم النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم ليس إلا انه يريد ان يوصل الحق الذي معه لباقي البشر الذين لم يصلهم الحق .
    اذا فالخلاصة ... .( النبي لا يحارب الا الكافر المعتدي الذي ياتي ليحاربه او الكافر الذي يمنع النبي لكي يوصّل النبي دعوتة الي باقي الناس الذين لم تصلهم رسالة الإسلام بعد ) 
    فهذا هو المقصد .. جهاد الدفع و جهاد الطلب وفي كلتا الحالتين .. النبي ضرب أروع مثال على الرحمة في الحروب ومن أمثلة هذا عفوه صلى الله عليه وسلم عن مشركي مكة لما دخلها فاتحا ً لها بعد ما ذاق فيها ألوان العذاب ‫#‏صلى_الله_على_محمد_صلى_الله_عليه_وسلم‬
    فالحمد لله على نعمة الإسلام 
    كتبة العبد الفقير الي الله 
    ‫#‏خالد_الهاروني‬


    By الواقد الجزائري - 7/18/2016 7:53:53 AM



  • Pankaj Verma,

    I am not aware of any other Muslim who says that the Quran makes no difference between the polytheists, the Christians and the Jews in the matter of giving all of the peaceful ones, the right and the freedom to pursue their own faith without let or hindrance. Not today, but also in the Prophet's times. While the moderates agree that this is true today, they make a one time exception for the times of the Prophet or for the polytheists of Arabia. I make no such exception and prove it with the authentic and clear message of the Quran and show that the hadith that obscures this view or distorts it,  is false and the work of satan.


    The most moderate of the Maulanas like Javed Ghamidi and Waheeduddin Khan also say (falsely as shown by me in the article) that the polytheists were not given any choice except to accept Islam or be killed.

    I am also the only Muslim who has said that the Quran did not consider all the polytheists of Mecca as "kafir" but only those who were enemies of Islam and the Prophet and practiced religious persecution. The person with whom I had a debate on this who maintained otherwise was Muhammad Yunus who also considers that all the polytheists of Arabia in the Prophet's times were kafir.

    I am also the only Muslim who has said that  not all polytheists are/were "kafir", and it is only the kafir who will go to hell.

    Either you have a problem understanding what I write, or I must be very  poor in my communication.


    By Naseer Ahmed - 7/15/2016 10:08:02 PM



  • @Naseer! I never understood, why do you have so much hatred against polytheists? You use this term more like an abuse.


    By Pankaj Verma - 7/15/2016 9:56:39 AM



  • @Naseer Ahmed

    It requires conviction and courage to say “Satanic Hadith” I am aware that increasing number of Muslims turn “Koran only Muslims”. I hope Naseer’s life is safe in a democratic country like India.

    @Atif Aslam

    The problem with many of our Muslim brothers is that they think the laws of seventh century Arabia (particularly Hadith) are canonized for eternity, knowing well that the 23 year revelation had abrogation. Allah is the only one who can decide to take a life because Allah is the ultimate author of life. All others who abuse and kill others are murderers whether they are Christians or Jews.

    The second great prophet of Islam says “ You shall know the truth, the truth will set your free”


    By Royalj - 7/15/2016 5:39:41 AM



  • Satan speaks satanism. It is a business of Satan to take money for speaking against Islam, quran, hadith, ulemas. Satan is the dog of Hell. Muslims should not feel offended. Insha Allah, he will decay in the Hell. And May Allah curse this Satan in this world too and grant him a severe painful disease because this Satan has called AHADITH as SATANic. 

    O Lord of the entire universe, O Allah save our Muslims from fitna of ISIS, Yahudis in Palestine and jews-dollars-funded reformists.

    Let the world know that if this Satan abuses me and beats me I will not say anything to him in retaliation but if he abuses any possible hadith of the prophet I will make duas hundred times in front of the Lord of the universe to punish him.

    According to these Satans, perhaps wine is ok, women-nudity is ok, gambling is ok, freeing and discounting rapists is ok, homosexuality is ok, kufr is ok, shirk is ok, haram is ok, 

    no one forces to you to believe AHADITH HOLY BOOK,but what is request is that do not abuse our hadith because this is our holy book and holy books of all muslims except in the past. an fir should be appealed against this man who has abused Ahadith. Muslims should register a FIR against this man in police station of india which gives right to religion. these satans want to damage peace of india 


    By Shahid - 7/15/2016 3:10:15 AM



  • Mr A. Aslam,
    Salman did not say anything that is not written in your Ahaadith! He merely wrote a fiction to make money and get a knighthood.
    At-Tabari and al-Waqidi, thoroughly discredited historians and carpet- baggers hadith junkies from Central Asia are the sources of that book. Cleanup your books first, Sir Atif!
    By Rashid Samnakay - 7/15/2016 12:45:35 AM



  • Naseer Sb
    The reality is that nobody can claim authentically regarding the fabrication of certain Ahadith. In that scenario you and your tribesmen are hurting the Muslims 'religious sentiments by refuting Ahadith based upon mere assumptions. Now you have joined the likes of Satan Rushdie.

    By Raihan Nezami - 7/15/2016 12:15:46 AM



  • Questions that the Defense Counsel for Satan needs to answer.

    There are several problems with the alleged hadith which purports to report the Prophet (pbuh) as saying:

    “I was commanded to fight against the people until they proclaim, `There is no deity worthy of worship except Allah.”

     Who commanded the Prophet and what was the mode of communication? Was it Allah? And how did Allah communicate? Why is such an important communication not there in the Quran?

     If he was commanded to fight until they accepted Islam, why does the Quran say: “But if the enemy incline towards peace, you should  (also) incline towards peace”? (8:61)

     What if the enemy had chosen to remain peaceful for a hundred years? In that case which command of Allah do you think the Prophet would have followed and why? Would he have remained peaceful or broken the treaty and fought?

     Why is Allah giving such contrary commands? In the Quran it is to accept peace if the enemy offers peace, but the secret counsel it appears, is to keep fighting until they accept Islam. Are such secret counsels the sunna of Allah and His Prophet or of Satan?  “Secret counsels are only (inspired) by Satan, in order that he may cause grief to the Believers; but he cannot harm them in the least, except as Allah permits; and on Allah let the Believers put their trust” (58:10). It is ahadith like these that bring a bad name to Islam and justifies the charge of the Islamophobes that Islam is a religion of deception!

      In 628 CE, the Prophet signed a 10-year truce called the Treaty of Hudaybiyah with the Meccans. Why did the Prophet sign the treaty for a period of 10 years with the people against whom he was commanded to fight until they accepted Islam? Why is he disobeying the command to keep on fighting and entering into treaties of peace?

     The Meccans broke the treaty and the Prophet conquered Mecca in 629 CE.  When they entered Mecca, Sa’ad ibn Ubada said this is the day of massacre but the Rasool corrected him and said 'this is a day of mercy and granted amnesty. Why did he declare amnesty when he was commanded to fight until they recited the Kalma?

     If the Prophet is seen to be consistently disobeying the alleged command, what is it except a concoction of Satan to defame the Prophet (pbuh) and Islam? So are those who are defending the hadith not the votaries and advocates of Satan?


    By Naseer Ahmed - 7/14/2016 11:49:24 PM



  • Hadiths are not our holy books, although some may contain words of wisdom. For us, the seminal words in the Quran are, "To you your religion, and to me mine, " and, "There is no compulsion in religion".


    By Ghulam Mohiyuddin - 7/14/2016 3:04:50 PM



  • Mr Atif,

    When did the Prophet say what he is alleged to have said? Before the conquest of Mecca? If so, why did he spare all the mushrikin after the conquest of Mecca? 

    Surah Taubah was revealed  18 months after the conquest of Mecca and until then no one was killed. 

    After Surah Taubah was revealed, which provided clear instructions, where was the need for him to say anything beyond what the Surah Taubah says?  So clearly he does not appear to have said it before the conquest of Mecca nor after. 

    The alleged hadith therefore is not a saying of the Prophet at all and has been concocted to defame Islam and the Prophet.

    If  you want to play satan's advocate, then do a good job of explaining. 

    By Naseer Ahmed - 7/14/2016 10:56:53 AM



  • @Naseer

    You are Satan and not the hadith. That is why you are unable to understand this hadith. As a comparision, you are not less than Salman Rushdie who had the same attitude regarding the Qur’an.

    Muslims can understand the hidden face of this second Rushdie, Naseer.

    In my view he is the biggest jahil. May God curse and curse upon Salman Rushdie and Naseer and those who consider verses of Quran and sayings of the prophet as ‘Satanic’. May God curse on this writer in the world and hearafter as well.  


    By Atif Aslam - 7/14/2016 7:07:24 AM



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